Intel Mac's beating M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max at their own game ....

[MajorFubar]

I think it's probably a mainly-northern-England expression, which is where i'm from. Sorry. lol.

 

[apparatchik]

Who? Not really following, why would you spend 4K+ on a 16" MBP M1 Max for the purpose or expectation of running Android Apps? Also, isn't that illegal?

 

[Mr. Dee]

I honestly have no desire to run iOS apps so far on my M1 Mac. A Microsoft MVP on Twitter who knows a lot about Windows and has been testing Android apps on Windows 11 has expressed her disappointment with the quality of the Android apps available. Most are mediocre utilities that’s not gonna be enticing anyone to switch. The fact remains, most of the apps anyone needs are already natively available for the M1: Adobe CC, MS Office and thousands more already that are not native using Rosetta 2. Sometimes we pigeonhole ourselves with these parochial topics when the bigger picture is no ones really is desperate for this.

I think Apples strategy with iOS apps on Mac is about consistency and simplicity. Write once, run everywhere, from the Watch to the state of the art Mac Pro coming in the future.

 

[Krevnik]

I think Apples strategy with iOS apps on Mac is about consistency and simplicity. Write once, run everywhere, from the Watch to the state of the art Mac Pro coming in the future.

Very much this. You can see it with their approach:

- Catalyst lets you use UIKit in an iPad-like mode on the Mac
- SwiftUI provides a single UI description language for all of Apple's platforms, which is still maturing, but attacking things the community needs to catch up to UIKit/AppKit in ways that really do matter.
- The years and years of lower level frameworks that are shared across the platforms meaning code to do media playback (AVFoundation), low level graphics (CoreGraphics and CoreAnimation) and the like have been sharable for nearly a decade in many cases.

 

[nastysailboat]

For real. I’m surprised at the amount of M1 hate. I’ve used a current windows machine I’ve used a current intel Mac and I haven’t done a task where my M1 Mac didn’t outperform any other machine by miles.

 

[Zdigital2015]

How the hell are Intel MAC's better at running ARM mobile apps than the M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max machines.

And I don't buy Apple their statement that it is up to the developers because with an Intel MAC, you can pretty much run every ARM mobile app out there on Android.

Please name the apps that you use frequently on your M1 iPad Pro that you are unable to load on your M1 Max MacBook Pro? No once have I seen a listing of those apps, just a lot of bloviating.

 

[Joniz]

And why not? People who own a M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max probably also have iOS devices like a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro.

With my previous machines, if I was too lazy to grab my 12.9 M1 iPad Pro, I could simply access the same app from my Intel MAC by launching the Android version.

I cannot do that on my 16" M1 Max MBP.

I agree — you are too lazy.

(Has anyone else used this joke yet? I’m too lazy to read through all the comments.)

 

[hagjohn]

These threads are so weird. Apple Silicon is so far ahead of x86 (good for computing in general, good for Apple in particular), and yet there's still a slice of Apple users who are determined to try and find ways to undermine that progress. Intel Macs running Android apps is so niche it's not even a thing to consider.

I doubt very many want to run android apps.

 

[TSE]

I sold all of my Apple stock because of this thread and instantly invested 100% of it into Intel. I then took out a payday loan to purchase more Intel stock.

Running Android apps on my computer definitely convinced me Intel is the future of computing. Thank you so much for your service.

 

[robco74]

Given that the Mac isn't as locked down as iOS/iPadOS, couldn't Google or Amazon create a Mac app that includes an Android runtime and accompanying App Store? Apple has provided the necessary tools to make it happen.

I'm not sure why it is on Apple to make sure that apps from other platforms run theirs. If Apple wanted iPad apps to run on Windows, it would be up to them, not Microsoft, to make it happen. Ditto for running them on Chromebook, or any other platform.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Fully agreed, plus those vague, clickbaity titles (like here) make it even worse.

Some folks love a weee bit of attention. This gives them a rush like nothing else!

 

[mi7chy]

Are you booting your Mac into Windows 11 to run Android apps? Not possible on M1 Macs. Haven't tried it since I'm not crazy about Amazon app store but will give it a spin when Google Play Store comes to both Windows 11 and 10.

https://www.techradar.com/news/android-games-are-coming-to-windows-11-with-google-play

 

[cnnyy20p]

BlueStacks 5 for Apple Silicone is coming don’t worry. You’ll get your wish anyway. Android Studio also already in preview.

Apple is all about integrated system. We don’t really care about the outside that much.

 

[Technerd108]

The tools I used are not supported for M1 (yet). Maybe in the future it will.

Apple was promoting us with the ability to run iOS apps on M1 machines. But it is very lackluster and certaintly not an improvement over what we had on Intel Mac's with Android apps.

There are a ton of apps that run on iOS and MacOS now that used to be iOS only. The amount of new apps compatible with M1 grows with time and as more people get on M1 Macs more developers will make their iOS apps available on MacOS.

I find the argument about running android apps on a Mac pretty laughable!! If you have an Apple device then you should be pretty familiar with how Apple does things. I would find it pretty hard to believe that there is ANY reason that Apple should try to get Android apps running on M1??? They literally have no incentive to do so and I honestly besides your use case can find no real reason for them to do so. I understand both are on arm but Android is Linux-open source and iOS and MacOS are running unix/BSD. Completely different platforms.

This is not Intel Mac beating anything. It can do something that M1 was never designed to do. M1 was designed to run iOS apps not Android!!

Keep your Intel Mac and enjoy it as it becomes obsolete fast!! Apple tends to move pretty fast when they transition hardware. I bought a power pc Mac on "sale" and I think we got two years of OS upgrades and after that just security updates. After 3 years it was obsolete. You really have to time buying apple products right otherwise you can get stuck with old hardware!!

 

[PsykX]

Shouldn't this thread be closed ? It's clearly a troll post. Or a severely misinformed individual.

 

[droidgod]

Shouldn't this thread be closed ? It's clearly a troll post. Or a severely misinformed individual.

So many such posts. Honestly I hope the mods do something about these. It devalues the legitimate posts (even critical ones) about the M1 platform.

This post is so funny - The OP thinks Intel Macs are superior to M1 because he can't run Android Apps on Apple M1 Macs.

 

[throAU]

Yeah...... nah.


Have both intel and AS Macs here, and its no contest.

 

[EdT]

And why not? People who own a M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max probably also have iOS devices like a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro.

With my previous machines, if I was too lazy to grab my 12.9 M1 iPad Pro, I could simply access the same app from my Intel MAC by launching the Android version.

I cannot do that on my 16" M1 Max MBP.

That ability could be restored if Microsoft added new library functions for Apple ARM processors like they are planning on doing for Qualcomm ARM chips. Apple Intel chips don’t need these functions or already have the necessary libraries. The actual problem isn’t Apple it’s Microsoft.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Shouldn't this thread be closed ? It's clearly a troll post. Or a severely misinformed individual.

Having lived through the hay day of CPU architectures (65C02, Z80, 68K, MIPS, SPARC, DEC Alpha, Clipper, PA-RISC, x86, PowerPC) and using most of them, I would suggest that the OP has zero experience with any of them outside x86. Given that, their post and quite a few other threads here are public laments that should stay private to the individual. There are a lot of users upset at what Apple has done in moving to Apple Silicon and it has disrupted their worldview enough that they are lashing out with nonsensical threads. I cannot tell if this is the Grief step or the Anger step, but after the past 5 years of people anguishing over the the 2016-2019 MacBook Pros, I’m not certain that these people are ever going to get to the Acceptance step. The FUD being sprinkled throughout these forums smacks of paid actors and true believers. It’s hard not to react or comment, because some of the absurd crap being shoveled out here. Put on your hip waders, you’re going to need them.

 

[BeefCake 15]

Got to be honest, I find mobile apps to be so restrictive compared to their desktop equivalents, using one on my computer is probably the last thing I'd want to do. But i guess we all have different needs and expectations.

I'm forced to use some like TP-Link Deco because their web based settings are missing features on the app...

 

[clevins]

And why not? People who own a M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max probably also have iOS devices like a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro.

With my previous machines, if I was too lazy to grab my 12.9 M1 iPad Pro, I could simply access the same app from my Intel MAC by launching the Android version.

I cannot do that on my 16" M1 Max MBP.

And now you just run the iOS version directly on your M1. Why the hell would I want to run the Android version of an app when I can run the iOS version? And that even presumes that the iOS app HAS an android version.

 

[clevins]

But only those whose developers allow you to do so. Quite rightly IMO. But with Intel Macs you can run Android apps fairly easily whether or not their app developer has approved them for use on a computer. That's what OP is getting at.

So the use case is apps that a) have no iOS version or b) do, but the dev has restricted the capability to run it on an M1 and c)where you do have an Android version AND FINALLY d) where you can run it on an unsupported platform?


This is a use case for which the phrase 'get a life' was invented.

 

[MayaUser]

So many such posts. Honestly I hope the mods do something about these. It devalues the legitimate posts (even critical ones) about the M1 platform.

This post is so funny - The OP thinks Intel Macs are superior to M1 because he can't run Android Apps on Apple M1 Macs.

I think OP was suspended y...I suspect the next topic will be M1 macs cannot run cars software, or chromeOS and so on..but but can they make pizza like Intel macs?!

 

[MuppetGate]

Funniest thread ever … ?

 

[MacsRgr8]

Must admit that the way Apple has made availability of iOS apps on M1 Macs is far from optimal.

• First, all iOS apps were made available on M1.
• Then (very quickly) apps that "shouldn't" be available (developers rightfully complained) were quickly removed.
• Later the list of iOS apps list which are allowed to be installed became very limited.
• Strangely, MDMs which are capable of pushing iOS apps to M1, still are able to push the app. If the apps really works is another issue (not sure if this still is the case though).

IMHO Apple should not have promoted the fact that M1 apps could run all iOS apps natively during the M1 launch, as most iOS apps are not developed with large screen / keyboard / mouse in mind.
The started with "all apps except..." available on M1 in mind, but IMHO, should have started the other way round: "these iOS apps work well on M1 Macs".