It was absolutely proven but you refused to look at the evidence. Apple never said that the M1 Macs would run Windows. Prove me wrong!
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Nobody wants to buy it around here (Mac's are scarce as hens teeth) and I wouldn't give it to a someone I like or a relative. If I find someone that wants it, I'll sell it, but that's not very likely. I don't have a seller account with any of the things like ebay.
Who knows, one or more of those things I hate about it will get fixed and I'll want to use it again. For now my Intel Mac Mini is enough for me. Maybe it'll go as a trade-in for some Apple desktop that comes out this year. Expectations being different, it's not a bad idea. A non-aluminum ultralight laptop that does have active cooling would also be something I'd look at, even though there's no rumor about it.
I *don't* hate MacOS, just my M1 MBA and a few marketing things about that. As for Apple, I'm a bit ticked off at them, and especially how some defend them around here, but I don't hate them. I'd have been happy as a clam with them if they'd have sold me a MBP with either a Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9, or Alder lake i7, and that miniLED screen.
My just ordered new laptop for work is an ultralight with a Ryzen 7 and 32G of RAM...
We’ve been over it. You are repeating an interpretation of a tech journalist who did an interview with Apples execs and has likely misconstrued what was said. There is no direct quote in any form from any Apple spokesperson claiming Windows running on M1. The only thing we have is an Apple exec saying in a video interview that running Windows on new Macs is up Windows and Apple is not opposed, but clarified that this is virtualization only. For obvious reasons.
No, there's more than that.
Since proving a negative is impossible logic-wise without reviewing everything *ever* shown or said and being able to prove you did. There's no way you could do that, so just give up. I'm not looking to prove anything to anyone here, so I don't care what you or anyone of you think about this particular issue.
You can’t prove Tim Cook didn’t say the M1 couldn’t communicate with ghosts. I am upset that I have not had a single ghost communication. I give up trying to make my point.
If you have a modern Mac you already have at least one MAC.
If you need another MAC you can buy a USB NIC. They're really cheap now.
(My PowerBook 5300 did not come with one, I bought a PCMCIA version, which was really expensive. You can tell because there are twice as many letters.)
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That is hardly a constructive approach though, even though I think I understand the sentiment
Still, if you are aware of some information that we are not, why not share it? Especially given there is so much interest in the topic.
Your liberty not to tell us whereabouts you are in the world but i'm pretty sure if you advertised it on eBay / Craigslist / etc, you'd find a buyer. Like you I don't know anyone outside of my own family (who are all creators) who would be interested in buying a Mac, but pretty sure if I advertised a nearly new M1 MBA on ebay it would sell no problem.
The used Mac market in my area is very active. I bought a couple of used iMacs in the past two months and am very happy with them. If you price them right, they move in a few hours to a few days. M1 macs are pretty scarce. M1 Pro/Max Macs are non-existent. Craigslist is local, though, and I'd guess that there are lots of places without an active market. I'm too lazy to ship stuff so I stick with Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace.
You're right, I can't, nor would I try since it's impossible. That's the trouble with proving negatives, it can't ever be done!
The M1 MBA was the biggest mistake purchase I have ever done for more reasons more than just that, blame me, and forget about it. We'll all be happier.
If I had done better research up front about the EULA for Windows on Arm, and had more experience with Windows insider builds, it wouldn't have been an expectation of mine to begin with.
btw, if you, or anyone would have used this argument, you'd have convinced me right away that it was so -- it deals with hard facts, not negatives and not opinion, and not even defending everything Apple that is so common around here -- it puts the whole problem on Microsoft and their EULA for WoA.
Because it doesn't make any difference at all -- to anyone, especially me, nor do I need to defend myself from emotionally negative things like that.
Nobody here asked, coastal South Carolina, Greater Charleston area.
I have no doubt I could, but is it worth my time/bother -- that's a lot harder to answer.
And besides, I hope I find a use for it sometime. Just because it totally doesn't fit my workflow now doesn't mean it wont for something in the future.
I'm a bit of a packrat when it comes to computer stuff. You'd be surprised just how many people's PC's I have fixed just by digging into my parts bin. I've been buying and using computers since the 70's...
Thanks, I'll remember that. I never tried to buy anything from Craigslist, so I really know nothing about it. It may come in handy in the future.
I do most of my older part buying from ebay, and that's just habit I guess.
I guess your experience is a perfect example of the phrase buyer beware.
I've been holding off buying an M1 up to now for two reasons, chiefly because I didn't have the cash, but almost just as importantly it took the developers ages to re-code many of the apps and plugins I use regularly. I'm hoping the time is now right, or as right as it's going to get: only one of the plugins I use regularly isn't optimised, and isn't ever likely to be, based on the current attitude of its dev, so when Apple decommission Rosetta 2, I'll unfortunately lose it. :-(
I've been holding off buying an M1 up to now for two reasons, chiefly because I didn't have the cash, but almost just as importantly it took the developers ages to re-code many of the apps and plugins I use regularly. I'm hoping the time is now right, or as right as it's going to get: only one of the plugins I use regularly isn't optimised, and isn't ever likely to be, based on the current attitude of its dev, so when Apple decommission Rosetta 2, I'll unfortunately lose it. :-(
Definitely, and well said.
You sound like you know exactly what you need and have researched it, and it's a good thing! And don't take my experience as any indication of potential problems for you. I work for a commercial business and a manufacturing business, all I do is programming (with lots of virtual machine uses), business stuff/reporting, and general computer infrastructure things, mill control, so not normal Mac oriented stuff.
I would keep an intel Mac around in any case though, it's the best bridge between the Windows, linux, and Mac work there is, even if it gets too old to be supported. I have a couple of Intel Mac Mini's that I don't see ever getting rid of as long as they run! One I use all the time at home.
Is this a thing I should care about? I guess if I am a developer. Are there a lot of Mac-based developers working on Android apps? Is this a cross-platform thing?
Definitely. I'll be keeping my mid 2012 non retina MBP until it basically dies. It's worthless anyway, and the second I get rid of it I'll suddenly find something obscure that I need a 32-bit-compatible Intel Mac for.
I have four usable Intel Macs and am in the process of selling some of them but I will maintain an Intel Mac for at least the next three years.
Is this a real point?
I am running Windows 11 ARM on my MacBook Pro M1 Max and it is rock solid so far. Runs what I need. Snappy bootup even. Runs on my brothers M1 too.
They were always clear BootCamp was gone on M1 Macs.
The problem with WoA is that MS doesn't officially license it for use in a VM. For anyone that is a MS shop, that is a huge problem.
For MS, there's the Qualcomm exclusivity agreement, combined with the fact that M1 can run WoA in a VM faster than it runs on MS's own native hardware.
For MS, there's the Qualcomm exclusivity agreement, combined with the fact that M1 can run WoA in a VM faster than it runs on MS's own native hardware.
It's certainly part of the point. Proving a negative can't really be done on open set problems. It's part of the argument and can be ignored.
Currently, my main problem with WoA, is the EULA -- as a business person I have to abide by it and the EULA for Windows on Arm says that it can only be sold with the hardware it runs on. The insider build get by that with a limited license that's kind of a gray area, but I don't want to have to update with every build as it's a PITA. When Microsoft
Also, WoA doesn't run everything I want to run, though it does run most, performance is okay, but just okay.
What makes this bad for me is I expected to be able to use my M1 MBA just as easily as any Windows laptop and that is definitely not the case.
I have never used bootcamp -- I've been using virtual machines instead for quite a long time. (20 years or so)