InterWebPPC browser - A rebrand of TenFourFox for the future.

[Doq]

First, has anything new happened on the PPC browser scene? Is InterWebPPC RR4 still the latest and greatest?

As far as modern-compatible browsers go, yes. There have been a few new drops in lighter less-modern browsers, but IWPPC is still the one for the best shot at the modern web.

why does InterWebPPC RR3 have a "dedicated Quartz" version, while RR4 doesn't?

Likely a side effect of RR4 being a single release, rather than one for each CPU type; for maximum compatibility, Quartz wasn't enabled (unless it is and it's just not presented as such).

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Okay, so this was on my mind quite a bit after I made this post, so I went and actually tested this, in Speedometer 2.1-- probably not the best test for this but it was the one I came up with off the top of my head. I put RR4 head-to-head against RR3 with Quartz for G5, on Implacable (ameowli.dev), to see how much a difference Quartz and CPU optimisation makes.

Both of these are bone stock without any performance tweaks because-- well firstly I never had and tweaks to begin with; I never got around to it-- but mostly because I want a pure comparison out-of-the-box.

RR3-G5-Quartz did worse than RR4 generic.

RR3 scored 7.47 and RR4 scored 8.36. Though, I believe this is less a difference in machine targeting and more that RR4 ships with many (but not all) of the documented performance tweaks out of the box, and that's more of a noticeable difference even with the small losses from having a generic build.

 

[dub44dub]

Here is the first official build of InterWeb for Tiger and Leopard. The goal is simple.
1) Produce 1 or 2 builds a year with updated certificates and possible other small updates after Sept when the unofficial TFF security updates end. It'll be enough to keep this browser useful yet for a few more years.
2) There is no other goal.

Other than branding, no code was added. I simply disabled a few things i deemed useless.
You'll notice it is roughly 15mb smaller than TFF because of this. It's smaller, lighter, faster.
It uses it's own profile also, so it wont interfere with your current TFF profile.
After Sept, I just cloned the latest TFF github repo to my github repo and added my branding and mozconfig updates if anybody wants to help do more with it than the basics i'm volunteering for.

Download all releases from here: https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/interwebppc-browser-a-rebrand-of-tenfourfox-the-future

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Hi! Sorry to admit that I am not super tech savvy. Do I need to download all of the different items on the Macintosh Garden page? Also, just checking, I am looking to add this to an old Mac Mini running OS 10.5.8. I am not trying to do much but I would like to be able to have iTunes access the internet with it as I have all of my music and photos on that old desktop machine. Any help is very much appreciated!!!

 

[ww2_1943]

Hi! Sorry to admit that I am not super tech savvy. Do I need to download all of the different items on the Macintosh Garden page? Also, just checking, I am looking to add this to an old Mac Mini running OS 10.5.8. I am not trying to do much but I would like to be able to have iTunes access the internet with it as I have all of my music and photos on that old desktop machine. Any help is very much appreciated!!!

iTunes will no longer access the internet. For awhile you could still browse music but I don’t think that works anymore.

Interweb is no longer updated. Aquafox is the successor to it. Go to Macintosh garden and download the 6th link for you computer.

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/aquafox

 

[barracuda156]

For awhile you could still browse music but I don’t think that works anymore.

WDYM?

 

[ww2_1943]

WDYM?

You haven’t been able to login into that version of iTunes to retrieve or purchase songs in years. Despite that, you could still connect to iTunes and browse music, podcasts, etc. as of last year that stopped working too. I just tried connecting to the iTunes Store and took these screenshots. You can no longer connect.

You can still use iTunes to manage your music (that you add from an iPod or something else), rip cds, listen to music, etc.

I forgot to check but internet radio might still work.

 

[ww2_1943]

Just checked, internet radio isn’t working either.

 

[barracuda156]

You haven’t been able to login into that version of iTunes to retrieve or purchase songs in years. Despite that, you could still connect to iTunes and browse music, podcasts, etc. as of last year that stopped working too. I just tried connecting to the iTunes Store and took these screenshots. You can no longer connect.

You can still use iTunes to manage your music (that you add from an iPod or something else), rip cds, listen to music, etc.

I forgot to check but internet radio might still work.

Ok, I thought by browsing music you meant browsing it locally (since without connection to the web it is obvious that online browsing is broken), and that must work forever.

It is unfortunate we do not have a proper open-source replacement for iTunes.

 

[ww2_1943]

Ok, I thought by browsing music you meant browsing it locally (since without connection to the web it is obvious that online browsing is broken), and that must work forever.

It is unfortunate we do not have a proper open-source replacement for iTunes.

When you look at the package contents of this version of iTunes with the last version for Mac which I think still works, they are similar. I wonder if it’s possible to back port components from a newer version.

That being said, I’m not sure the last version will work much longer now that apple has moved on to their Music app.

 

[Tankerthebuberz]

Fix it then lol

 

[ww2_1943]

Fix it then lol
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What did you do to get it to connect?

 

[wicknix]

He probably used aproxy. It enables current ssl/tls on tiger and leopard.

 

[dub44dub]

iTunes will no longer access the internet. For awhile you could still browse music but I don’t think that works anymore.

Interweb is no longer updated. Aquafox is the successor to it. Go to Macintosh garden and download the 6th link for you computer.

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/aquafox

Thank you very much for the information!

When I wrote about iTunes connecting to the internet I was not so much interested in buying music, but when I load a CD (yeah, I am old and still do that) having the Gracenote feature being able to read the CD and title things rather than me having to do it manually.

But thanks again so much for the assist!!!

 

[dub44dub]

iTunes will no longer access the internet. For awhile you could still browse music but I don’t think that works anymore.

Interweb is no longer updated. Aquafox is the successor to it. Go to Macintosh garden and download the 6th link for you computer.

https://macintoshgarden.org/apps/aquafox

I did as you suggested but it only opened the terminal. Is there another piece(s) I need to add? It was not the typical DMG that I have used, opened and installed before. Thanks for your thoughts and time!

 

[ww2_1943]

I did as you suggested but it only opened the terminal. Is there another piece(s) I need to add? It was not the typical DMG that I have used, opened and installed before. Thanks for your thoughts and time!

When you open the DMG you should see the AquaFox icon. Just drag and drop it in applications. There isn’t an installer.

 

[ww2_1943]

Thank you very much for the information!

When I wrote about iTunes connecting to the internet I was not so much interested in buying music, but when I load a CD (yeah, I am old and still do that) having the Gracenote feature being able to read the CD and title things rather than me having to do it manually.

But thanks again so much for the assist!!!

I know Gracenote still works in some versions of iTunes. I’m more sure if it does in the last PPC version.

 

[dub44dub]

When you open the DMG you should see the AquaFox icon. Just drag and drop it in applications. There isn’t an installer.

I could never get the DMG to load like they usually do so I went out and found it on GitHub. It downloaded just fine, the Aquafox DMG icon looked the way it was supposed to, it opened, installed and runs great. Thanks for all of your help here! Also, thank you to those who contributed/created the program!!!

 

[Tankerthebuberz]

Also someone on macintoshgarden patched iTunes so radio and music browsing is working again. Patched versions from os 9 all the way up to leopard are uploaded and on there from December