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sw1tcher

macrumors 603
Jan 6, 2004
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Get a refurb iBook now. May I suggest the current rev. 14" iBook for $1099? It should easily last you for the next 2 years. By that time, the Intel PB will be at rev. B, possibly even C. Then just sell the iBook and get a PB.
 

DC06

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 19, 2005
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Thanks all! At this point, I think I'm going to hold out for that last PB PPC update *crosses fingers*. Here's to hopin! :D
 

cocozz

macrumors newbie
Sep 25, 2005
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DC06 said:
Thanks all! At this point, I think I'm going to hold out for that last PB PPC update *crosses fingers*. Here's to hopin! :D

Welcome to the family of "omg apple please update the powerbook line or I'll suicide !!!!!"
 

DC06

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Sep 19, 2005
24
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How sure are we that there will be a last PPC update? There's no way Apple would hold on to these models for SEVERAL more months, right????? :confused:
 

Demon Hunter

macrumors 68020
Mar 30, 2004
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Verto said:
If prices were lowered, the laptop's power in relation to that price would increase. Spending 1500$ on a 12'' PowerBook as currently speced is a ridiculous expectation from Apple; you won't even get a 100GB hard drive stock until you get into the 2700$ range.

I wouldn't even touch a PowerBook until their prices were lowered by about 3-400 dollars, OR until they received a significant processer upgrade (or both).

Not going to happen. PowerBooks are the premium line, that's why they have iBooks. That's business plain and simple.
 

eva01

macrumors 601
Feb 22, 2005
4,720
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Gah! Plymouth
That is one of the most uninformed comments i have seen "drop the price of the powerbooks 3-400 dollars" LMAO i had to laugh at that at how ridiculous it really is.

I love my new powerbook and i would gladly spend another 1400-1500 dollars if i needed another one
 

Verto

macrumors 6502a
Jul 20, 2005
582
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Denton, TX
dferrara said:
Not going to happen. PowerBooks are the premium line, that's why they have iBooks. That's business plain and simple.

Premium as far as price is concerned, yes. But in power, the iBook is uncomfortably close, and for significantly less. If Apple wants to charge 1500-2000+ for the PowerBook, fine, but they are insulting their customers by selling them with its current specs. Of course, if I had just dropped close to 2k on a laptop rapidly becoming, dare I say it, obsolete, I would make up all the excuses in the world. :)
 

Demon Hunter

macrumors 68020
Mar 30, 2004
2,284
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Verto said:
Premium as far as price is concerned, yes. But in power, the iBook is uncomfortably close, and for significantly less. If Apple wants to charge 1500-2000+ for the PowerBook, fine, but they are insulting their customers by selling them with its current specs. Of course, if I had just dropped close to 2k on a laptop rapidly becoming, dare I say it, obsolete, I would make up all the excuses in the world. :)

Lol I would not argue with that logic. For example I recently bought a pair of ridiculously expensive Ezra Fitch brand jeans. In terms of function, I could have bought a pair of Levi's at Walmart for $25. They both cover my legs the same. But in terms of sexyness, nothing even comes close. ;) In other words, Apple could wait until January or even February and the PowerBooks would still sell like hotcakes. Insulting to practicality, yes; do I care, perhaps not so much.
 

Verto

macrumors 6502a
Jul 20, 2005
582
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Denton, TX
dferrara said:
Lol I would not argue with that logic. For example I recently bought a pair of ridiculously expensive Ezra Fitch brand jeans. In terms of function, I could have bought a pair of Levi's at Walmart for $25. They both cover my legs the same. But in terms of sexyness, nothing even comes close. ;) In other words, Apple could wait until January or even February and the PowerBooks would still sell like hotcakes. Insulting to practicality, yes; do I care, perhaps not so much.

No, it is more like paying 80,000 or whatever for a Viper that gets outperformed by a Toyota Corolla. You may like the looks, but the Powerbook gets the smackdown by even Dell when it comes to what matters more: power.

EDIT, and oh:

"Of course, if I had just dropped close to 2k on a laptop rapidly becoming, dare I say it, obsolete, I would make up all the excuses in the world. "

I understand your anguish, dferrara, and I feel your pain :)
 

robbie

macrumors newbie
Oct 9, 2005
3
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herts, Uk
Verto said:
If prices were lowered, the laptop's power in relation to that price would increase. Spending 1500$ on a 12'' PowerBook as currently speced is a ridiculous expectation from Apple; you won't even get a 100GB hard drive stock until you get into the 2700$ range.

I wouldn't even touch a PowerBook until their prices were lowered by about 3-400 dollars, OR until they received a significant processer upgrade (or both).

here in uk we pay nearly as much in £££££'s,

talk about the yuk end of the stick !!!

History would caution us to beware of false prophets, i'm alluding to the perceived easy application migration to a new intel chip. will apple hurry to produce a new lappie ? my guess is their priority will be the greater, more lucrative budget desktop market so when will we get an intel powerbook ?

On the power side, it's always been to the best of my knowledge that clock speeds between IBM/ Motorola V AMD/ INTEL chips is not a like for like comparison, something to do with instruction sets, not my field so can't be certain.

In any event, a powerbook is not cheap but you almost get what you pay for with a mac and for me, desktops are dead.

get yourself a powerbook, run it till it drops to get your moneys worth.
 

paulypants

macrumors 6502a
Jun 17, 2003
618
271
Buffalo, NY
Verto said:
PowerBooks are ridiculously overpriced and underpowered. Avoid at all costs until Apple gives them the update they so desperately require.


And that was a ridiculously over-exaggerated statement.
 

FFTT

macrumors 68030
Apr 17, 2004
2,952
1
A Stoned Throw From Ground Zero
WAIT! ......

...at least a few more days for peace of mind


It would be foolish to rush any purchase right now until we know what happens next Wednesaday or even over the next 2 weeks, IMHO

IF the new PowerBook rumors hold true we'll see some very welcome
improvements AND price reductions on the current models making them
an excellent value.
 

stefan15

macrumors regular
Oct 2, 2005
199
0
Canada
FFTT said:
It would be foolish to rush any purchase right now until we know what happens next Wednesaday or even over the next 2 weeks, IMHO

For sure! As of right now, the iBook is the best value for a notebook in the IB/PB line. You'd be hard pressed to find anything else around $1200CAD for that kind of setup. The PB as of now are a bit pricey, but I would definitely wait until this week coming up.
 

iEdd

macrumors 68000
Aug 8, 2005
1,956
4
*Sigh*, once again people are comparing 'value' with one number. PCs of the same price won't run as fast (even if they're 2-3Ghz), as the software is the main part of power transferal, just like the tires on a car. ;)
I wouldn't buy a pb right now (I don't have the money :p). See what the 12th oct. brings.
 

FFTT

macrumors 68030
Apr 17, 2004
2,952
1
A Stoned Throw From Ground Zero
I'm trying to imagine what it might be like to have
a 13" WS PowerBook HD with up to 2.5 GB DDR2 RAM, 128MB VRAM and a 100 GB HD with 16MB buffer with a backlit keyboard, 16X dual layer burner and a bluetooth Mighty Mouse :D

Never hurts to dream
 

WRXHokie

macrumors regular
Sep 12, 2005
247
166
Gotha, FL
eva01 said:
That is one of the most uninformed comments i have seen "drop the price of the powerbooks 3-400 dollars" LMAO i had to laugh at that at how ridiculous it really is.

I love my new powerbook and i would gladly spend another 1400-1500 dollars if i needed another one

Mac prices in general are too high. If you arnt able to get some kind of discount, then it is a rip off. Apple knows they are too expensive too, thats why they offer so many discounts. So a 3-400 price drop on a 10 month old machine? Not as ridiculous as you may think.
 

Verto

macrumors 6502a
Jul 20, 2005
582
0
Denton, TX
eva01 said:
That is one of the most uninformed comments i have seen "drop the price of the powerbooks 3-400 dollars" LMAO i had to laugh at that at how ridiculous it really is.

I love my new powerbook and i would gladly spend another 1400-1500 dollars if i needed another one

Yes, because iLife and that aluminum shell is totally worth it! :rolleyes:

I think people just need to come to terms with the fact that the PowerBook is showing its age, and its specs do not warrant such a price.
 

WRXHokie

macrumors regular
Sep 12, 2005
247
166
Gotha, FL
Verto said:
Yes, because iLife and that aluminum shell is totally worth it! :rolleyes:

I think people just need to come to terms with the fact that the PowerBook is showing its age, and its specs do not warrant such a price.

Thats the point... who pays 2G's for a machine that is 10 months old. Thats absurd. eva01 just drinks the kool aid too much... you gotta be a smart buyer, otherwise your just a moron.
 

Bern

macrumors 68000
Nov 10, 2004
1,854
1
Australia
WRXHokie said:
Thats the point... who pays 2G's for a machine that is 10 months old. Thats absurd. eva01 just drinks the kool aid too much... you gotta be a smart buyer, otherwise your just a moron.


Yeah only a moron would buy a high quality, reliable computer over something cheap and unreliable :rolleyes:
 

FFTT

macrumors 68030
Apr 17, 2004
2,952
1
A Stoned Throw From Ground Zero
If you're actually earning a living from what you do with your machine
and using that machine helps you to be more productive and better organized with a minimum of hassle, then the expense is worth it.

If you break down the cost of your machine over 3-4 years and consider
how many hours you spend using that machine, then the cost is easily
warranted. That $2700 machine is only costing you less than $3.00 a day.

People like me spend more money on coffee and cigarettes each day
than I spend on new computer gear over the same time period.

YES PowerBooks are showing their age and THEY WILL be improved,
but they are also highly reliable & efficient workhorses for most users.

All of us here wish that Apple offered more BTO options for their entire
line-up, but it won't happen unless people take the time to voice their
opinions to Apple.

I would much rather see Apple stay with PPC architecture, but hopefully
the Intel transition will benefit all of us with the availablity of upgrades.

At this point all we can do is hope that Apple addresses these issues in their next offering.
 
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