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iOS 12 on iPhone SE: is performance/battery life worse?
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The problem is that you are not gaining much going from 9 to 12.
Unless you’re not happy with 9 otherwise I would stay put.
The thing is, some of my apps have started requiring ios 10 minimum, so I can't use them anymore. I think I'll have to switch because of that.
Also, security.
Look, just update your device as soon as an update comes out and just let go of the device when it get to be too slow. Don't probe and test every single update like.
Once it gets to be too slow, buy yourself a new one, or change manufacturer. But no, don't do this.
I do understand that I won't gain too much, the question is will I lose too much? Like battery life, tbh battery life is my biggest concern. I don't really care about security.
Like Suiha mentioned, some apps require ios 10.
According to a lot of users, battery life will be severely crippled. That's solely on the SE.
If the 7 can serve as a reference, battery life on iOS 12 is half of my 6s's on iOS 9. When the 7 was on iOS 10, they were exactly the same. I saw that one myself.
Don't do it.
What security?
The guy is on ios9 and is doing just fine
My battery took a hit initially going from 10 to 12. 12.1 seems to calm things down. But the experience varies so much among users, hard to tell how it will treat you.
The guy is on ios9 and is doing just fine
My battery took a hit initially going from 10 to 12. 12.1 seems to calm things down. But the experience varies so much among users, hard to tell how it will treat you.
But would you say that your battery is now as iOS 10 when you updated it to 12.1?
What? Why would I have to throw away a perfect - or a would-be perfect - device if not updated, only for theoretical threats?
Ah, so just update it and then throw it away when it is crippled by iOS updates. Wonderful. Wonderful advice. I am using an iPod Touch 5G on iOS 6. It is absolutely perfect and stunningly fast. Should I throw that away?
Just had Apple replace my original launch edition SE battery, and to the extent I was having battery drain issues, it’s running like a brand new phone, the way it was when I got it.
I highly recommend anyone with an older SE and having battery issues after the upgrade, to spend $29 and get a new battery.
I highly recommend anyone with an older SE and having battery issues after the upgrade, to spend $29 and get a new battery.
Not sure what you mean, as the new battery is running on iOS 12 perfectly. The old battery initially had noticable power drain issues, which subsided as I documented here. I would concur with others here that there were initial power demands following the update which eventually went away, perhaps based on how iOS optimized itself following the update. Otherwise, the battery drain seemed normal, but after getting the new battery, I realize just how badly I had been suffering with reduced battery life over the years, gradually accepting less and less performance over time without even realizing it, and perhaps blaming it on an iOS update, which arguably contributed to the power drain, but more likely exposed the deficiencies of my aging battery.
Most (or all) of this "security" paranoia is completely unfounded, but it's another good way for Apple to force upgrades on people, upgrades that will make them want a new phone. I have never read even one report--not even ONE--of someone's iPhone getting hacked. Have you?
This thread is a cludder of “do it” .....“don’t do it” geeeez!
I really wander if it’s the actual age of the SE?
Or
The iteration of IOS you are upgrading from?
For the time being I will hold at 11.4.1
I really wander if it’s the actual age of the SE?
Or
The iteration of IOS you are upgrading from?
For the time being I will hold at 11.4.1
I'm guessing you either haven't done a simple Google search or you're blissfully ignorant.
I gave in and updated. increased battery drain is noticed but has not effected my normal usage patterns. The first 2 days I dropped a lot of calls. I rebooted and it “appears” the problem has passed.
Well, I updated from IOS 11 to IOS 12.01, then 12.1
So - I don't have the direct comparison and cannot exactly give you the answer.
Concerning some commentaries here I can just repeat that upgrading from IOS 11 to IOS 12 made my SE even more smooth, faster and for MY PERSONAL DAILY USE I did not see any issues like faster battery draining (except for the background-activity during the 48h after switching to IOS 12).
I am someone who EVER waits one year to upgrade to the "new" IOS or MacOS, because I hate to be the test-driver for buggy OS... but this time I saw how good it works on a repaired SE a friend of mine got back from apple.
he was obliged to install IOS 12 on his new SE before reinstalling his backup-data on his new SE - so, he was a sort of unwilling test-driver for me. I was sceptic but his SE worked fine for a month. So - I upgraded the first time in my apple-life to a new OS before one year of release (normally I update just before the next after gets released, so I am always at least one year "late" with upgrading, but I have no issues with bugs).
As I wrote above, I am not a power-user, I don't use "social" media, I have not a ton of apps, but nevertheless use iphoto, phone calls, emails, sms, Ebay, Deezer, hear music each day on my way (at least 2 h), internet, and so on... At least for me the battery time has NOT decreased at all, just the opposite: I have the impression that battery life is even a bit better than before.
It is no problem at all to use IOS 12 and at the end of the day battery is still at 60 or 70 percent - on days with a "lot of activity" I am at 40%...
So - I stand for what I wrote: this IOS is the first one that works fine already some months after being released.
Maybe someone who uses "animated smilies" and lots of other useless gimmicks and passes his daily life endlessly on Facebook will have other experiences - but normal users will not, I think.
But - for those "power-users": really, there is always a way to charge your iPhone during the day: in your car, at your workplace, at home, you just need a USB-slot or take the little charger with you.. what is the problem?
to make the conclusion: IOS 12 does NOT drain more than former IOS if you use your SE like before.
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As I wrote already before your posting, there are a lot of background activities directly after updating from IOS 11 to IOS 12 - this drains of course the battery, as every time you update to the new IOS !
But after that, battery consumption falls back to normal.
It is that easy.
Except that in most cases it does not. I haven't seen stable battery life on any device if updated far enough, compared to the original version (battery health is largely irrelevant unless severely degraded).
There isn't anything but a decrease. Plus phones, regular phones, older phones such as the 5s, iPod Touches, iPads.
iPhone 7: iOS 10: 8-9 hours.
iOS 11: 5-6 hours.
iOS 12: 4-6 hours.
An iPhone 6+ lasted 7-8 hours on iOS 11. My 7+ on iOS 10 - and every plus I have seen on its original version - lasted 10-12. There is a steady and undeniable decrease.
This is what I have always said: don't update. If you update, then you know what's coming.
And did you replace the battery with every annual update?
I replaced the battery in my 2.7 year old SE after I upgraded to iOS 12. I would gurantee it has the same battery life now as it did under iOS 9 when I bought it. I noticed no major change when I upgraded to iOS 10, 8 months later, but I did notice a drop with iOS 11, 20 months later, and again after another year when I updated to iOS 12.
So if it were tied entirely to iOS upgrades, then I shouldn’t have been able to buy a new battery for $29 ($49 after Dec 31), and restore my original battery life.
What I have always said is my SE has gotten speedier with every update, but only in the last year or so has it started to drain the battery significantly, and replacing it with a new one restored it to virtually the same conditions I observed when I bought it new, except it actually seems a little speedier. And I love the features it’s gained since I bought it.
I can’t speak for any other model but the SE, but my SE is running the latest OS and is running better than ever. Best $29 I ever spent, even $49 is a great investment.
Done the same with my battery replaced from Apple $39AUD and running the latest iOS 12 beta and it's running super fast. I have no problem and battery last over 24hrs from my usage pattern medium user for only browsing and banking etc..
I have seen no significant decrease in battery life with degraded batteries on iOS devices that were maintained on their original versions. Yes, maybe my 9.7 iPad Pro lasts half an hour less than when it was new with 91% capacity, down to 13.5 hours from 14, but it isn't lasting 7. I monitor battery life, I know what I get, these aren't guesses.
My iPhone 6s gets the same battery life it did when it was new, it currently varies between 91 and 93% health.
My iPad 4 on iOS 7 was getting 14 hours 6 months after getting it, and it was getting 14 hours 4 years later with 77% health. There is no difference.
Also, these drops I mentioned were right after updating. Not an year after. Battery Heath has nothing to do with that.
A friend's iPhone 7 was getting 8-9 hours on iOS 10, just like my 6s. A few months later, on iOS 11, it was getting 5-6. Right after updating. There's no battery health factor in that. It's just the iOS version.
Hence why, I have said that unless severely degraded (let's say, at 60% health), then the health isn't a huge factor. Or at least, it isn't the factor that will make an 8-hour battery life, a 5-hour battery life, immediately after updating.
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I have not dropped any calls since the original download of 12 and subsequent reboot. The battery has not drained so much to be a distraction to my use pattern. I use my iPad or laptop for most of the heavy lifting anyway.
Not sure about 9.