iOS 15 hasn't been given the credit it deserves

[Wizec]

iOS 15 would absolutely trash my battery overnight, until iOS 15.4 fixed it. Idle battery drain was like Y=-X all night long, with no app activity to show for it. This on an iPhone 13 Pro set up as new. That’s absolutely insane.

It would be great if just 1 person at Apple could be dedicated to constantly profiling the battery usage with the most common 100 or so apps installed and helping the OS team with battery optimization.

 

[russell_314]

I bet they’re all using Android and Windows. ? none of my Green Bubbles ever complain about their cell phones, and I’m legitimately scared of getting a macOS device because my Windows “just works just fine”©

I don't really have issues with iOS 15 anymore. I think the patches fixed things but it took way too long. My green bubble friends are always fighting with their phones but it could be user error. I have a android as a work phone and it's okay but I'm not crazy about the interface and it's a little less responsive compared to my iPhone. I'm sure if it was a higher end one like the S21 it would be a little better.

If you're happy with your Windows PC and it does what you need then why consider a Mac anyway? I have both and both do what I what I bought them for pretty good. I have my PC for gaming and Mac for everything else. I could just use my PC for everything but that would mean a monitor/ speakers upgrade for it and I would lose out on the integration with my iPhone/ iPad like iCloud, universal clipboard and iMessage.

 

[dk001]

I am absolutely convinced that they don’t use anything more than the most basic features. For example there are HomeKit delays affecting everybody especially when using HomePod. This was introduced with iOS and audioOS 15 last year. Still no closer to being fixed.

One of the headline features from the year before which was hand washing: on the watch you would get a notification when arriving back home as a reminder to wash your hands. This feature was completely broken with iOS 15 and watchOS 8, it affects absolutely everybody around the world with an Apple Watch and has still not been fixed.

The long-standing UK dictation issue, well they aren’t going to give a crap about that in Cupertino because it doesn’t affect America. You can guarantee that the issue would’ve been resolved if it did affect the USA.

I could go on. But I myself am bored of typing the same stuff and there must be many people on here who are as equally bored of reading it.

Edit: don’t get me wrong, I know these things aren’t necessarily easy to fix. But surely when something has been fundamentally broken in a new release it should be a priority to get those fixed before fannying around with new features?

One serious disappointment and concern to add to that is OTA.
After some of us had discussions with Apple and tested OTA vs ipsw, even though there is the claim that they are the “same” we have seen and found via testing that ipsw is the better and less buggy update method. The concern is most folks update via OTA.

Yeah, you have to wonder just what kind of real testing and use Apple does.

 

[papbot]

My OTA installation of 15.5 today fixed several Safari bugs for me. I’m very happy to see these resolved, they had been an issue since around 15.1 or .2. Of course with Safari and iCloud I’m sure other issues will occur or these will come back, but I’m happy for now.

 

[dk001]

As a reminder from myself and others, if you have some bugs that are picking at you, if possible do an ipsw install. We have found that this will frequently fix many bugs that OTA won't..

 

[RadioHedgeFund]

I have always found a completely

As a reminder from myself and others, if you have some bugs that are picking at you, if possible do an ipsw install. We have found that this will frequently fix many bugs that OTA won't..

I have always found treating my phone like a desktop works best. On OSX my Mac developed some long-term problems a clean install maybe once a year would fix everything.

On iOS put it in repair mode, install the latest ipsw and set the phone up from scratch rather than a backup. Your media is in iCloud and it is likely most of your apps arent getting regular use anyway.

 

[papbot]

I have always found a completely

I have always found treating my phone like a desktop works best. On OSX my Mac developed some long-term problems a clean install maybe once a year would fix everything.

On iOS put it in repair mode, install the latest ipsw and set the phone up from scratch rather than a backup. Your media is in iCloud and it is likely most of your apps arent getting regular use anyway.

If you’re having serious problems that’s a reasonable approach. But unnecessary for the vast majority of users. I will admit that more than 10 years ago, I did essentially that for an issue which was suggested by someone on some forum. It turned into an arduous process (for me as a novice user at that time) and made no difference, just caused a lot of stress. The next software update took care of the issue I was having.

Since ios 15 was released there have been a couple Safari issues that I’ve posted about on several forums with virtually no response. So it seemed those issues were specific to me, quite frustrating. Yesterday’s release of 15.5 fixed both of those issues. I feel as if Apple fixed them just for me, since no one else had posted anywhere. It seems that obscure issues that some report are frequently met with this wipe/restore/download an obscure file/re-install/set up as new recommendation. I’d like to spare those who haven’t had much experience with their ios devices from thinking that’s what they should attempt as I did a decade ago. A serious issue where the device is having functional problems may be resolved by what’s been recommended here as several have reported. But if I’m ever in that position I would be going through Apple Support first, such an issue caused by the software is Apple’s responsibility to resolve.

Since that issue 10 years or so ago I’ve not had any issue that made me consider such a step. Since the OTA updates became possible I have not done them any other way. I just don’t want those, perhaps less experienced with these devices, who come here to see if others have experienced what they have, to think that there is some reason to not do OTA. In my 15 years of the phones (I tend to get a new phone every year) and multiple iPads neither I nor my wife (who hangs on to her phones forever) nor anyone I personally know have had any reason to do the updates any other way. For those with more experience, as many here are, a serious problem or non-functioning phone could well be resolved by some of these procedures. But again it would be my choice to let Apple deal with it.

 

[Aerisdies]

I have always found a completely

I have always found treating my phone like a desktop works best. On OSX my Mac developed some long-term problems a clean install maybe once a year would fix everything.

On iOS put it in repair mode, install the latest ipsw and set the phone up from scratch rather than a backup. Your media is in iCloud and it is likely most of your apps arent getting regular use anyway.

True, totally unnecessary for a premium phone but I do this every major update but damn.
Almost every single iOS update comes with unbearable bugs and battery drain.
The need to totally hold-off upgrading because of those sh*ts are crazy. I never had that problem with Android 7+ on my old Sony phones.

For me, it's not about being "boring and unimpressive", it's those bugs, performance hits, and overhyped marketing of new iOS features that are delayed every 15.x release that are off.
It's Apple's fault for forcing updates every year without rest.
Most iOS updates can be done via App updates making me laugh when they're announcing it on their big events like what the hell, it's just an app, not the OS itself.

 

[RadioHedgeFund]

True, totally unnecessary for a premium phone but I do this every major update but damn.
Almost every single iOS update comes with unbearable bugs and battery drain.
The need to totally hold-off upgrading because of those sh*ts are crazy. I never had that problem with Android 7+ on my old Sony phones.

For me, it's not about being "boring and unimpressive", it's those bugs, performance hits, and overhyped marketing of new iOS features that are delayed every 15.x release that are off.
It's Apple's fault for forcing updates every year without rest.
Most iOS updates can be done via App updates making me laugh when they're announcing it on their big events like what the hell, it's just an app, not the OS itself.

One advantage of Android is Google decoupled their apps from the OS allowing older versions of Android to access the latest app updates and security patches without needing the newest OS. Why Apple issue a whole new OS update just for some podcasting features is quite strange.

Then again it goes both ways: Windows Phone 8 is probably the fastest most efficient mobile OS ever created. Microsoft brought out WP8.1 which decoupled apps like Music and Xbox from the OS and they became slow and unusable. This was made worse by the fact that the old apps were just locked away rather than removed from the OS. There was even an 'app' you could buy from a 3rd party dev that let you use the old built-in music player which was still really fast!

 

[RadioHedgeFund]

True, totally unnecessary for a premium phone but I do this every major update but damn.
Almost every single iOS update comes with unbearable bugs and battery drain.
The need to totally hold-off upgrading because of those sh*ts are crazy. I never had that problem with Android 7+ on my old Sony phones.

For me, it's not about being "boring and unimpressive", it's those bugs, performance hits, and overhyped marketing of new iOS features that are delayed every 15.x release that are off.
It's Apple's fault for forcing updates every year without rest.
Most iOS updates can be done via App updates making me laugh when they're announcing it on their big events like what the hell, it's just an app, not the OS itself.

A fortunate side-effect of a lack of OS updates for Android is they stay as-is forever. I keep my Pixel 6 on the November 2021 update because I am worried Google will bork the battery or OS and I kind of like it the way it is.

Still, its not a great situation to have.

 

[ingramli]

(First post in this forum)
Just like #2 said, what annoyed me the most for my 2 years ownership of iPhone SE (the first and only iphone experience) is that the iOS got a major update every year, and users are not given a choice to use the new version (both new features and bugs) or not, assume that they want the latest security patch. To me it is a nuisance having to bear with a couple of buggy releases each year if you want to stay "safe" (assume if latest means safe, no 0-day whatsoever).

I bought the iPhone because I thought it is safe and stable (hypes of others), but it turned out I couldnt have both in many occasions (at least 2-3 months or so each year), it is disappointing. I wish Apple could have an alternative, say a long term channel, to provide at least 24 months of security update and bug fix for every iOS major release (so each release has a 12 months transition period after the next major release is out, and people have a choice to switch between the latest release and the last major release in its latest form, say 14.8.1 for now), I don't hold my breath for it to become reality though....

 

[dk001]

(First post in this forum)
Just like #2 said, what annoyed me the most for my 2 years ownership of iPhone SE (the first and only iphone experience) is that the iOS got a major update every year, and users are not given a choice to use the new version (both new features and bugs) or not, assume that they want the latest security patch. To me it is a nuisance having to bear with a couple of buggy releases each year if you want to stay "safe" (assume if latest means safe, no 0-day whatsoever).

I bought the iPhone because I thought it is safe and stable (hypes of others), but it turned out I couldnt have both in many occasions (at least 2-3 months or so each year), it is disappointing. I wish Apple could have an alternative, say a long term channel, to provide at least 24 months of security update and bug fix for every iOS major release (so each release has a 12 months transition period after the next major release is out, and people have a choice to switch between the latest release and the last major release in its latest form, say 14.8.1 for now), I don't hold my breath for it to become reality though....

Congrats and welcome to the circus ??

 

[Al Rukh]

I think I can agree to this. It never had a messy launch since September. It never impacted battery life that much of my 11 PM when I had it.

 

[Isamilis]

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