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Dude i work from home in a wheelchair 😂😂 it tells me I have met my standing goal every day.


If you specify that you use a wheelchair, the Stand ring will switch to the Roll ring. Roll shows hours in which you've pushed around for at least 1 minute.
 
That does not change the fact that Siri, Spell Checking, Find and others are terrible and they are all usually AI based these days.

If Siri was AI then we wouldn’t need such precise phrasing to get it to work.

The real AI is happening under the hood. For example: learning how you use your devices to optimise charging.
 
I can see how the headset would work for meditation. I think it would be uncomfortable to use during a workout, especially if it needs a separate battery pack.
 

Roll ring is not great also.

health app says I have vo2 max of a 90 year old person. I’m 32 and health is perfect despite being in wheelchair. I can exercise. Algorithms are a stupid way to measure health because they have biases.
 
Apple needs to revamp the Health app from the ground up. It's really just a data repository with a few charts. There's so much more potential and it surprises me that Apple hasn't pursued that potential.

Some thoughts:
  • Group/cluster related data elements (e.g., heart data, physical movement data, etc.)
  • Much better charts with trend lines as well as indicators of when a metric is in a good or bad range.
  • Integrated and co-located tips for improving health (e.g., blood pressure, resting heart rate, etc.)
And, last but not least, AI/ML driven health insights that are derived from the total health picture (i.e., all of your health data). e.g., "we're seeing your average resting heart rate is drifting up and that you've been talking shorter walks)

This could even tap into some big (anonymized) data on the back end to help enrich the insights.

P.S. I want the Health app on my Mac too so I can look at multiple charts and data at once. They did this for Weather. Maybe this will come to more apps as they rewrite them in their cross-platform framework.
This is perhaps the most relevant comment I've read on this topic.

Apple's current approach with the existing Health app is really simple, just tracking and managing single metrics/biometrics in isolation, and only within the limited display size of the iPhone. If they take this a step towards the logical conclusion, they need to let users view their health metrics in combination, seeing how doing this (or not doing this) affects that. Blood pressure, basal temperature, exercise type and duration, weight, stress levels, medications, symptoms like headaches... and then of course dietary choices, one of the toughest and most menial but arguably one of the most important metrics to track. Taken in isolation, these metrics don't mean a great deal. When you combine several of them and start visualizing them with charts and graphs, you can gain a much clearer picture of cause and effect.

For people to make effective health-related choices in this increasingly complex world, a tool like this that also treats health data privacy as paramount may actually help a lot of people get well and stay well. An on-device analysis would be ideal.
 
I suspect this is something more like a prompt to ask about your mood and you do something like tap an emoji that approximates your mood (e.g., :):mad::(, etc.) and then be able to see patterns over days and weeks. Perhaps you find yourself consistently feeling sad in the afternoons on days that you did not go to the gym. Like that.
Regardless of the purpose that people think tracking of their moods can have, they’ll only come to know the past because that is where all thoughts are, and any feeling or emotion is a thought stretched in time. And the past is dead. Hence I say respectfully to the reader, not as an advice but as an understanding: don’t track what is dead but live what is alive, which is the here and now, because YOU are not dead but alive. To put it differently: be life, which is only now, not your thinking mind, which is only in the past or the modified past which the mind calls “future”.
 
I’ve had an Apple Watch for a few months now, and I have to say I find the whole health tracking to be very meh. It’s a feature that basically nags me to do stuff, I don’t find that a good use for my gadgets.
 
If Siri was AI then we wouldn’t need such precise phrasing to get it to work.

The real AI is happening under the hood. For example: learning how you use your devices to optimise charging.
That's is exactly the point, other digital assistants are based on AI, but not Siri.
 
I'd love to have capability to input data for one or two generic fields without the need to download yet another app to track and export data to the Health app.

For example:
Pushups: 40

The end state could leverage the beautiful graphs of the Health app and the user would be able to see progress for a simple metric over time.
 
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Siri is dumb as a stump. My predicted UX:
"You're fat. Open Safari on your iPhone and do a Google search to learn more."
 
Dear Apple,

Please let me have an Apple Watch Ultra & an iPad Pro (12.9"/1TB/Cellular) that I can pair together and use without needing an iPhone for setting up the Apple Watch Ultra or having active cellular service on the same...

I want the iPad Pro (paired with a gen2 Apple Pencil) in a Logitech Combo Touch for my everyday computing needs and the Apple Watch Ultra (paired with Beats Flex wireless earphones) for my everyday cell phone needs...

I do not want to be forced to have an iPhone with an active cellular service account just to be able to make & take calls on the Apple Watch Ultra...!

Thanks...!

;^p
 
Next year, Apple will expand its health offerings with a new health coaching service. Codenamed Quartz, the AI-based service will help encourage users to exercise, improve their eating habits, and take steps to improve their sleep. The service will use data from the Apple Watch to make personalized suggestions and create tailored coaching programs, with Apple planning to charge a monthly fee. While the service is planned for 2024, Gurman cautions that it could be "canceled or postponed."
Would be nice if this was included in Apple Fitness+
 
Just goes to show how low our expectations have fallen for Mac software. Apple used to be the best desktop app developer. Period. Now we're content to let them port iOS apps. :rolleyes:
And here they don’t even need to “port” anything as iOS apps are directly compatible with M1 given the developer agrees to allow Mac users to use their app. Shame on you apple 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
You're confusing AI with Siri. Apple has a series of AI features that perform so well, you don't think of them as AI. Lifting an object from an image just as good or better than Adobe Sensei (done on-device, no cloud computing), word recognition in photos and across the user's entire ecosystem of content. Computational photography. That's all artificial intelligence and machine learning. A fitness coach would work very much like that – nothing to do with Siri listening to commands and interpreting them.
I signed up for Macrumors just to like your comment. It amazes me how there are people who claim to "know" technology and yet can't differentiate how we see AI now from how we saw it twenty years ago. CME is a thing in all fields and to judge Apple's AI initiatives based on Siri is pretty much the equivalent of judging OpenAI, a project heavily invested in by Microsoft, based on Clippy's performance.


With this said, and since I already made an account, I will say that I am pretty excited about the mood and journaling functions included in iOS 17. I really wish Apple had purchased the other journaling app and "integrated" it into the new iOS before making this announcement, just so they could maintain good will and not seem evil. Yet one of the most interesting things about the mood fiction is the lack of credit towards Steve Jobs.

A little more than a decade ago I was stuck and in a pretty unhappy place. One of the things that helped me to change my perspective was the Steve Jobs quote, "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' If the Answer is 'no' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something." I almost immediately downloaded a simple mood tracker app and started to track my mood everyday and visually saw how unhappy I was. This lead me to make the decision to put in the effort to focus on myself, revaluate, and plan out what I wanted in life and then make those changes immediately. I, in part, have that quote to thank for helping me find a more fulfilling path in my life and I really wish tech sites, or Apple itself, would include it when talking about the mood function of the new os. I really hope that it helps others as much as it has impacted my life.
 
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I signed up for Macrumors just to like your comment. It amazes me how there are people who claim to "know" technology and yet can't differentiate how we see AI now from how we saw it twenty years ago. CME is a thing in all fields and to judge Apple's AI initiatives based on Siri is pretty much the equivalent of judging OpenAI, a project heavily invested in by Microsoft, based on Clippy's performance.


With this said, and since I already made an account, I will say that I am pretty excited about the mood and journaling functions included in iOS 17. I really wish Apple had purchased the other journaling app and "integrated" it into the new iOS before making this announcement, just so they could maintain good will and not seem evil. Yet one of the most interesting things about the mood fiction is the lack of credit towards Steve Jobs.

A little more than a decade ago I was stuck and in a pretty unhappy place. One of the things that helped me to change my perspective was the Steve Jobs quote, "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' If the Answer is 'no' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something." I almost immediately downloaded a simple mood tracker app and started to track my mood everyday and visually saw how unhappy I was. This lead me to make the decision to put in the effort to focus on myself, revaluate, and plan out what I wanted in life and then make those changes immediately. I, in part, have that quote to thank for helping me find a more fulfilling path in my life and I really wish tech sites, or Apple itself, would include it when talking about the mood function of the new os. I really hope that it helps others as much as it has impacted my life.

Agreed on all counts.

That said, I get the sense that Apple won't be releasing a Day One type journaling app and it's being confused by a game of telephone.

However, if they are doing a journaling app, I believe it'll be different, more of an automated aggregator, a central timeline of all the things you've done in a day, from the pictures you've taken, to Apple Fitness workouts, to fitness ring count, to meditation sessions, to screen time on your devices and which apps, to sleep tracking, to friends you were with or spoke with on the phone or via face time, and then it'll give you an overall picture of your day so that you're aware of where your time is going and who you're spending it with – a bird's eye view that helps to refocus and re-prioritize your life. I think this could be very powerful, even for people who don't like to write a diary aka journal.

I'm glad you're doing well and welcome to the forum.
 
I signed up for Macrumors just to like your comment. It amazes me how there are people who claim to "know" technology and yet can't differentiate how we see AI now from how we saw it twenty years ago. CME is a thing in all fields and to judge Apple's AI initiatives based on Siri is pretty much the equivalent of judging OpenAI, a project heavily invested in by Microsoft, based on Clippy's performance.


With this said, and since I already made an account, I will say that I am pretty excited about the mood and journaling functions included in iOS 17. I really wish Apple had purchased the other journaling app and "integrated" it into the new iOS before making this announcement, just so they could maintain good will and not seem evil. Yet one of the most interesting things about the mood fiction is the lack of credit towards Steve Jobs.

A little more than a decade ago I was stuck and in a pretty unhappy place. One of the things that helped me to change my perspective was the Steve Jobs quote, "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' If the Answer is 'no' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something." I almost immediately downloaded a simple mood tracker app and started to track my mood everyday and visually saw how unhappy I was. This lead me to make the decision to put in the effort to focus on myself, revaluate, and plan out what I wanted in life and then make those changes immediately. I, in part, have that quote to thank for helping me find a more fulfilling path in my life and I really wish tech sites, or Apple itself, would include it when talking about the mood function of the new os. I really hope that it helps others as much as it has impacted my life.
I am happy for you that that unhappy place gave way to a more fulfilling path. But what you say changed your life tells me you are yet to become observant. Improbable as it may sound, but reading a quote did not help you to change your perspective. Reading does not change a reader's perspective, although it sometimes seems that it does. You read the quote prior to your perspective undergoing a change; change of perspective and reading are not causally linked.

It is possible to understand deeply why this is so. But do not take my words for it. We all come to an ever deeper understanding of life ourselves, which happens if and when it is meant to, not as our own doing but as an evolutionary process of life.

Now, why would ever deeper understanding be important? Because it liberates you from worries and fear as it grows in you as trust in life as it is.

I will give a clue. Are you not already in some state every moment of your life even before you can think of how you want to be? It is important to recognize it. Man’s worries and fear, and therefore his/her conflicts and wars, have basically just one reason; s/he believes s/he can change life. As long as that is your belief, you will inescapably be worried and fearful. Spontaneous trust, come what may, will be far away for you. Hence, as an understanding (not as an advice!) I say, by tracking your moods you only get yourself stuck in the past, which is where life and your true self in life are not. Invite life to guide you beyond your mind into life to meet your true self by not looking for anything in life but by just looking at life.
 
Who are we really? Do our moods define us as a human? If so, which mood? A mood is a feeling which in turn is a thought racked in time. So are we a thought? Even our most subtle thoughts happen external to our true self which itself is not a thought! So, tracking your moods means your mind is only tracking itself, not you! You cannot be tracked!

Tracking moods is pointless for multiple reasons. One of them I just mentioned - a mood is a thought, but you are not. So mind never tracks you but only itself. Another reason derives from life being a transformation process of energy. So your mind too is just energy. And energy moves as a wave up and down. Hence your life too goes up and down. When energy goes up you feel happy. When the same energy goes down you feel sad. When energy goes up and you see something you love you feel loving towards the seen. When the same energy goes down and you see something you love, how do you feel? Loving? No, sad of course. So, how you feel depends on your mind’s energy transforming spontaneously, uncontrollably and unpredictably cyclically.

So what does tracking your moods do? It only strengthens your desire to track your moods. That’s all it does. Moods happen for us to experience them only as thoughts where we are not, which is in the mind. They do not happen where we are alive, which is in the timeless and thoughtless now. Being choicelessly aware of your thoughts and thoughts as feelings will take you beyond your mind into life where you become aware of what you really are.
 
Regardless of the purpose that people think tracking of their moods can have, they’ll only come to know the past because that is where all thoughts are, and any feeling or emotion is a thought stretched in time. And the past is dead. Hence I say respectfully to the reader, not as an advice but as an understanding: don’t track what is dead but live what is alive, which is the here and now, because YOU are not dead but alive. To put it differently: be life, which is only now, not your thinking mind, which is only in the past or the modified past which the mind calls “future”.
You make an interesting point, not to get caught up in the past but to live in the present.

I think the reason why people might track their moods is because it could tip them off to other underlying issues they may be having. Another reader in this thread (who posted after your post) mentioned that just seeing their mood terns tipped them off to the fact that they were unhappy in life and needed to make some changes. It may be the "past," but at least understanding your moods may help you come to grips with some larger problems or things you haven't dealt with. It's not perfect, but it's one possible indicator, I feel.

(For the record, I don't really use mood trackers and rarely bother inputting my moods, just because I know how I feel and I feel that I'm pretty well in tune with how I feel when I do this or that. YMMV)
 
You make an interesting point, not to get caught up in the past but to live in the present.

I think the reason why people might track their moods is because it could tip them off to other underlying issues they may be having. Another reader in this thread (who posted after your post) mentioned that just seeing their mood terns tipped them off to the fact that they were unhappy in life and needed to make some changes. It may be the "past," but at least understanding your moods may help you come to grips with some larger problems or things you haven't dealt with. It's not perfect, but it's one possible indicator, I feel.

(For the record, I don't really use mood trackers and rarely bother inputting my moods, just because I know how I feel and I feel that I'm pretty well in tune with how I feel when I do this or that. YMMV)
Let’s be careful with the words “caught up” in past. That doesn't really happen to anyone. Due to a lack of understanding and awareness, people identify wrongly with who they think they are. Don’t try to live in the present. It is where you are alive. Your aliveness cannot be somewhere else. Your mind however is only in the past or in the future. And it is only the “I”, the root-thought in the mind, that tries to live in the present, which take you away from the present! Deep understanding is everything.

Tell me, can you make your moods happen? If you can, you might as well just choose only desirable moods and experience them as long as you want. You would never choose undesirable moods. But can you? Everyone’s moods “swing” spontaneously, unpredictably and uncontrollably, whether we like it or not. That alone should tell us that tracking moods cannot help us to come to grip with whatever, it only appears so.

As you probably know, when we look at a star in the sky, we only see the star that “was”. It takes a long time for the light to reach our eyes and then become a thought of a star in our heads. But we cannot see the past, because if we could, we could see our past life too, which no one can. It means we do not see what we see, we think what we see. The same with moods internally; they are echos in the present. If people identify with them, which is why they track them in the first place, they are away from where they are alive, which is, as stated earlier, only in the present. Therefore, be life. Be what you are. Just watch your moods choicelessly.
 
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