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Not really, little Jimmy gets an iPhone for christmas as is instantly disappointed he can’t run a super Mario emulator on it like little Johnny next door on his Samsung.

Apple only has itself to blame by being overly stingy protecting their garden. Now it will be a free for all.

There is your problem right there. It’s a CELL PHONE. Maybe little jimmy only needs a flip phone. No reason for them to have it. Even if you do, who the hell cares about emulation on a cell phone. I buy my phone primarily for communication. Little Jimmy would be better suited for a tablet with a much bigger screen to enjoy the game.
 
There is your problem right there. It’s a CELL PHONE. Maybe little jimmy only needs a flip phone. No reason for them to have it. Even if you do, who the hell cares about emulation on a cell phone. I buy my phone primarily for communication. Little Jimmy would be better suited for a tablet with a much bigger screen to enjoy the game.
Oh come on, it’s a pocket computer that also has phone functions. Dumb phones exist, sure, but if the example here is an iphone vs a samsung android phone then the comparison is between two small computers, not “just a cell phone”, and there are expectations greater than what a dumb phone has

For a fairly large chunk of the population, in the US somewhat, and in large portions of world more completely, a cell phone is their primary or even only computing device.

As to tablets, OP’s comparison works just as well using an iPad 🤷‍♂️
 
Oh come on, it’s a pocket computer that also has phone functions. Dumb phones exist, sure, but if the example here is an iphone vs a samsung android phone then the comparison is between two small computers, not “just a cell phone”, and there are expectations greater than what a dumb phone has

For a fairly large chunk of the population, in the US somewhat, and in large portions of world more completely, a cell phone is their primary or even only computing device.

As to tablets, OP’s comparison works just as well using an iPad 🤷‍♂️
Then buy an Android phone/tablet? It's not difficult. You all act as its the most horrific thing a company can do when it's known from DAY ONE....ever since there was an App Store that its a walled garden. So that is on you for not doing the correct research. Just like it is my fault if I get an AMD card but can't use CUDA because I didn't do my research.
 
Then buy an Android phone/tablet? It's not difficult. You all act as its the most horrific thing a company can do when it's known from DAY ONE....ever since there was an App Store that its a walled garden. So that is on you for not doing the correct research. Just like it is my fault if I get an AMD card but can't use CUDA because I didn't do my research.
Little Johnny didn’t know, it’s his first iPhone
 
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Yep, the EU is just that. I was there and certain TV channels and streaming channels are banned also.
You can’t get most American tv or streaming channels in Europe because they sell their content individually.
 
Little Johnny or the person who bought it for him should have done some research first.
Little Johnny’s grandma, Gertrude surfed the information superhighway to check, and it said an iPhone plays thousands of games. She thought her grandson would be eternally pleased.
 
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Little Johnny’s grandma, Gertrude surfed the information superhighway to check, and it said an iPhone plays thousands of games. She thought her grandson would be eternally pleased.
Poor Gertrude was mistaken. I guess they’ll either have to take the phone back for a full refund and buy something that more closely meets their needs or compromise and live with that they’ve got.
 
You must have missed what I wrote that they are going all digital. Xbox leak showed no more disc based consoles

How this Xbox plan plays out in the next year or so remains to be seen and, if necessary, it will presumably be evaluated by regulators at some point. None of it changes the here and now and Apple's (alleged) dominance and anticompetitive behavior.
 
Poor Gertrude was mistaken. I guess they’ll either have to take the phone back for a full refund and buy something that more closely meets their needs or compromise and live with that they’ve got.
Poor Gurtrude indeed, she didn’t need all this bother in her twilight years.
 
Then buy an Android phone/tablet? It's not difficult. You all act as its the most horrific thing a company can do when it's known from DAY ONE....ever since there was an App Store that its a walled garden. So that is on you for not doing the correct research. Just like it is my fault if I get an AMD card but can't use CUDA because I didn't do my research.

It doesn't necessarily matter if something was a certain way since "day one." It typically only becomes a potential antitrust issue if/when a company becomes a dominant player in a particular market as Apple and Google have in mobile OS. A company with a relatively small share of a market with several players (where Apple was on "day one" with iPhone OS) simply doesn't wield the power, control. influence, etc. that a company with larger share of a market with few players (where Apple is today with iOS) does.

It's the "dominance" combined with "anticompetitive behavior" that can put companies on an antitrust radar.
 
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Not really, little Jimmy gets an iPhone for Christmas and is instantly disappointed he can’t run a super Mario emulator on it like little Johnny next door on his Samsung.

Apple only has itself to blame by being overly stingy protecting their garden. Now it will be a free for all.
Little Jimmy unlikely to give a toss about Super Mario emulators and would want to play flappy bird, call of duty or super mario world.

His 40 year old retro gamer dad is more likely to go to get on their high horse about emulators.
Little Johnny’s grandma, Gertrude surfed the information superhighway to check, and it said an iPhone plays thousands of games. She thought her grandson would be eternally pleased.
It DOES play thousands of games, just not 30+ year old ones that live in a legal grey area unless you physically ripped the rom yourself - something little Johnny could not do unless he's some kind of kid genius with a retro fetish, and if he is, he's already aware that the iPhone cannot play emulators and can either act the dick with grandma or level up to modern games on his shiny new iDevice.

Grandma should just get him one of those $10 handheld games machine that plays thousands of those games pre-loaded with a real controller and dedicated screen (equally grey Roms pre-loaded).
 

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It doesn't necessarily matter if something was a certain way since "day one." It typically only becomes a potential antitrust issue if/when a company becomes a dominant player in a particular market as Apple and Google have in mobile OS. A company with a relatively small share of a market with several players (where Apple was on "day one" with iPhone OS) simply doesn't wield the power, control. influence, etc. that a company with larger share of a market with few players (where Apple is today with iOS) does. It's the "dominance" combined with "anticompetitive behavior" that can put companies on an antitrust radar.
Sounds like we need more competitors to iOS and Android then to solve that issue.
 
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Yep. By doing everyone a massive favour. See also USB-C.

While it probably sped up the inevitable, I suspect USB-C was the way Apple was going anyway. I would not be surprised if behind the scenes Apple pushed for a date the law went into effect that coincided with Apple's product roadmap.

Besides, you guys were late to the party on both occasions. ;)

Yea, but if we hadn't shown up with our beer and pizza things would have not been as much fun...
 
Sounds like we need more competitors to iOS and Android then to solve that issue.

More mobile OS competition would be good. Until that happens, regulators try to address potential anticompetitive issues within the existing major/dominant players which are iOS and Android.
 
More mobile OS competition would be good. Until that happens, regulators try to address potential anticompetitive issues within the existing major/dominant players which are iOS and Android.
Sounds to me that their efforts would be better placed in generating more competition than butchering existing competitors.
 
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Sounds to me that their efforts would be better placed in generating more competition than butchering existing competitors.

What would you suggest antitrust regulators do to bring more mobile OS companies to the market? They can't exactly force companies to enter a market especially when cost of entry can be high. Regulators are typically more about trying to address "anticompetitive behavior" among existing major/dominant players, the harshest remedy being the breakup of a company.
 
Sounds like we need more competitors to iOS and Android then to solve that issue.
Realistically who's going to bother when you can license a ready-made established OS for pittance and just skin it to their own liking.

Google have pretty much snuffed out any idea of competition presenting itself anytime soon.
 
Realistically who's going to bother when you can license a ready-made established OS for pittance and just skin it to their own liking.

Google have pretty much snuffed out any idea of competition presenting itself anytime soon.
Maybe we need to make it so Google can’t license its os and instead must use it on its own devices only? That way other manufacturers will need to create their own OSes.
 
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What would you suggest antitrust regulators do to bring more mobile OS companies to the market? They can't exactly force companies to enter a market especially when cost of entry can be high. Regulators are typically more about trying to address "anticompetitive behavior" among existing major/dominant players, the harshest remedy being the breakup of a company.
Ban cross-manufacturer OS licensing.
 
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