Just my opinion, and I really do hope I am right, but I do not think there is a cat in Hell’s chance of circular icons coming to the iPhone and iPad. And personally, I think it would look awful.
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iOS 18 Speculation Thread
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Agreed
VisionOS icons are circular because they are meant to be seen from multiple angles compared to a iPhone or a Mac where you usually look at them from the front view.
See https://www.rudrank.com/vision-os-fundamentals-creating-app-icon/
The GUI as mentioned before badly needs better wallpaper customization in iOS/ iPadOS 18.
But the macOS icons are just old iOS 7 icons with some shading, so it would be the exact same icons, but a few of them would get some shadows.
It’s been what 11 years now? It’s time for something new and pretty, the old flat bland iOS 7 looks need to be replaced by something modern and beautiful, not sure if Apple can find a half good designer though, that’s a big challenge for a trillion dollar company.
The macOS icons do look modern and beautiful. They aren’t flat. The iOS versions are flat. With better app icon customization, you could use whatever other app icons you wanted. But I for one like the pneumorphic app icons from macOS.
Looking at the pre-fact hype concerning Apple's AI effort, its appears to be a like a snowball rolling down the hill that will continue to grow in size that will obliterate most of the current Vision Pro discussions. AI is not something that is uniquely limited to one device such as VR/AR but effect how we do things with multiple Apple devices next Sept.
The OpenAI Sora demos caused a lot of wows 9 day ago, its kinda show how Apple could update a lot of their creative content applications to give content tools to people less skilled that need content based on some text.
Obviously we had MaxTech YouTube video from last week that ran with this as OMG what is AI capable of for Apple usage?
As with all speculation, watch this video mainly for its entertainment aspects as Apple's AI usage with IOS 18 could be amazing, but limited at the beginning of the era of AI enhanced applications.
The OpenAI Sora demos caused a lot of wows 9 day ago, its kinda show how Apple could update a lot of their creative content applications to give content tools to people less skilled that need content based on some text.
Sora: Creating video from text
openai.com
Obviously we had MaxTech YouTube video from last week that ran with this as OMG what is AI capable of for Apple usage?
As with all speculation, watch this video mainly for its entertainment aspects as Apple's AI usage with IOS 18 could be amazing, but limited at the beginning of the era of AI enhanced applications.
I doubt it. The iPhone 6S received 7 versions of iOS. The XS is only at 6 and the 12 at 4. The last iPhone to only receive 4 versions is the iPhone 4 way back on iOS 7.
In my opinion, app icons won’t change shape so long as the cameras are framed in a squircle (love that word).
Fingers will be crossed though for the icon customization menu posted by @Kal Madda.
Fingers will be crossed though for the icon customization menu posted by @Kal Madda.
There’s support for the phone and then there’s limited support. A phone may “make the cut” and move to the next major release, but it may not support all of the features in the major release.
I haven’t educated myself enough on the particular hardware involved to have any thoughts on whether the poster’s SE will make the cut out or not. I’d say, however, that if there’s a year in which phones on the cusp of obsolescence may not make the cut, this might be it.
Agreed. With how big of an update rumors are indicating it will be I expect the oldest devices to miss out on some features. Even on iOS 17 there are a few instances of this.
I certainly wouldn't guarantee the A12 iPhones will make the cut but I think there's more than a small chance. There are several devices with similar specs both iPad and iPhone wise.
It certainly not anything that necessitates iOS18 needing iPhones possessing a neural processor, as the cut from iOS17 A11 SoC based iPhones had that.
All I want is being able to put apps on the bottom of the screen.
I think making the bottom dock icons smaller and allow 6 at least compared to the present 4 would be a nice change.
I’m hoping they allow more than 3 in CarPlay
I'm still waiting for classic app to show in carplay interface. I have zoom showing, so it's possible. Still using the previous version before Apple disabled it in the latest version.
The best solution is to just port the iPad dock to iOS. Always one of my favorite jailbreak tweaks.
To be honest, I think more than 4 icons in the iPhone App Dock would look kind of ugly. Then they wouldn’t line up with the icons on the rest of the Home Screen. I guess they could add an option to add additional apps to the dock in Settings, but I don’t know how far you’d get before the icons would be too small to be practical. Maybe it would be better to add the option to pin the App Library to the App Dock on iOS as one of the 4 icons. And add the ability to swipe up to reveal the App Dock from within apps. But honestly I don’t think that would make much difference to most people and the way they use their iPhone, and that’s probably why it isn’t that way currently.
No longer own an iPhone, but as an iPad user… I’d hope Apple add the following to iPadOS 18:
- The ability to stream multiple audio and video sources simultaneously
- Revamp Notification Center (give it a more iPadOS vibe)
- External Display stays visible while the iPad sleeps
- More refinements in Stage Manager (specifically under App Exposé)
One of my wishes is being realized (RCS Support), so my biggest wish outside of that is multiple users support of iPads.
Other than that I don‘t care about UI refreshes or gimmicky features they usually add to their apps. Give me base functionality expected from a „laptop replacement“ so I can share my iPad Pro with my SO without leaking work related infos.
Other than that I don‘t care about UI refreshes or gimmicky features they usually add to their apps. Give me base functionality expected from a „laptop replacement“ so I can share my iPad Pro with my SO without leaking work related infos.
I think a lot of people do know haha they just prefer the rest of what comes with iOS and Apple.
Judging by the latest rumors, it seems like iOS and iPadOS 18 will get a visual refresh (though not resembling Vision Pro, which I’m very glad to hear). I’m hoping we get either more theming options for app icon customization, or we get the macOS neumorphic icons! 👍🏻
And that’s why I ended with “to each their own”.. due to our preferences.
It’s hard for me to wrap my head around Apple allowing icon customization… they have locked down changing system icons in macOS (previously we were able to do it).
Way back when you had to jailbreak in order to unlock and use the iPhone (in the US) on carriers other than AT&T, "Five Icon Dock" was my favorite tweak. I haven't jailbroken in years but I still miss it. You're right, though - the way we use phones has evolved somewhat and I don't think it would be as useful today with easier search/swipe/etc.
My sister is getting married later this year and my dad asked if it's possible to do a family group iMessage conversation that's just about the wedding, separate from our regular family chat. It isn't possible, but that would be a very good idea. To do subject specific iMessage chats.