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iOS 19 Speculation Thread
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I’m totally with you on a new Status Bar. Not implemented the same as on the Mac, because I don’t think that would be very touch optimized, but something akin to a hybrid of the macOS Menu Bar and iPhone Dynamic Island, with kind of the look and design of the Dynamic Island, but incorporating the functionality of the Menu Bar. iPadOS already has a menu bar of sorts, but it’s activated by a key command. What if it could be accessed via a button in this interface.
Oh, and about the Control Center. So, I’m okay with an option for it to fill the screen or continue to function as is, but I really wouldn’t want a full screen Control Center to replace the current one, so I’m glad you added that qualifier. 👍🏻. But maybe instead of the Control Center blurring out apps and content behind the Control Center, it could act like a pop-down window similar to the Control Center on macOS. Maybe it could just expand from a little floating pill button in that Dynamic Island/Menu Bar hybrid interface I talked about earlier. 👍🏻. But that could be nice. Technically I think it’s more of an aesthetic thing though really, I don’t know if there’s much added utility of the pop-down window vs transparent window implementation.
So this is actually pretty interesting. I remembered there was a macOS Concept a while back that had a kind of pill-menu style Menu Bar. I was able to find it, it was called macOS Mammoth. The intriguing thing though is that it came out in 2021, a while before the first iPhone with Dynamic Island. I think this interface is still not very touch optimized, but a similar concept with more individualized buttons and perhaps expandable with gestures could be pretty cool. More in line with the Dynamic Island.
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Is it too much to ask for the Fitness App on iPad? I know the Apple Watch doesn’t pair with your iPad, but fitness data syncs with iCloud anyway.
I mean the Apple TV has a Fitness app that syncs with your watch for Fitness+ content, but not everywhere you go has an Apple TV. And I’d rather watch those videos on an iPad screen than my phone.
Edit: I see you can download it on your iPad. Never mind. I thought it was just a preloaded app for iPhone.
I mean the Apple TV has a Fitness app that syncs with your watch for Fitness+ content, but not everywhere you go has an Apple TV. And I’d rather watch those videos on an iPad screen than my phone.
Edit: I see you can download it on your iPad. Never mind. I thought it was just a preloaded app for iPhone.
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ok but if apple AI stuff does nit support my language (polish) we should get an option to replace it with Gemini, Grok or Chat GPT to have them or others as default.
another thing is system performance should be top notch from them but I belive they still love DEI so....
other changes? Maybe they should rethink design within their own apps? Music, Notes or TV- app sucks.
And finały maybe it is time to add a global back gesture to the system too?
Overall i do not expect anything fancy, maybe new pride wallpapers?
another thing is system performance should be top notch from them but I belive they still love DEI so....
other changes? Maybe they should rethink design within their own apps? Music, Notes or TV- app sucks.
And finały maybe it is time to add a global back gesture to the system too?
Overall i do not expect anything fancy, maybe new pride wallpapers?
Do you want them to stop issuing updates, fixes, and new features? That wouldn’t make anyone happy.
Or is it that you don’t like the idea that after a certain point, they change the version number? It’s not like they are rushing to cram in all the features in September anyway more. They are taking a little more time to work on them before releasing them and I’m fine with that. We get a preview in June and then see them arrive of the following months.
No, nothing of the above.
I simply would like Apple to support devices for a longer time, make life easier from an enterprise admin perspective and to be a lot better than the competitors. Apple produce premium products and has a "green" policy and also talks a lot about security and privacy. We pay a premium price and on top of that Apple makes money on services, that means they should have resrources to make this happen.
If we look at MS Windows they have had Windows 10 running for 10 years and even when it is going out of support you will be able to purchase support on a yearly basis. Maybe that's something that Apple could offer too.
You can still offer new features but not having to change the major version name. Or if it has to be as it is today, with a new OS relase every year, offer it to older devices but just say "these features won't be available" it has been done many times in the past.
From an admin perspective its a bit of a pain to keep track of what devices that can run what OS and if they can receive patches. Especially if its a mix of OS version and not all of them can run the latest.
I think that Apples obesssion to release a new OS every year just complicates things and adds to the pile of electronic waste as devices aren't supported anymore.
Apple supports their hardware longer than Microsoft. I already demonstrated that Microsoft dropped support for most Windows computers from 2017-2018 in 2021 (only about 3-4 years of software support), while Apple is still supporting 2017-2018 hardware 4 years later in 2025. Apple has double the hardware support life that Microsoft has now. And that’s only counting feature updates. Apple roles out critical security patches for their older OS versions, so they offer about the same level of support for older macOS versions as what Microsoft offered to Windows 10 for the past few years. I have a 2012 MacBook running Catalina that just received a security update a couple years ago. So it received at least 10 years of updates. And trust me, the hardware was at the point that it wouldn’t really be a good idea to continue using it anyways, the hardware is completely irrelevant in the modern era. But Macs don’t need security updates as often as Windows machines, because they’re more secure, and a smaller target for hacking, so you don’t need monthly security updates on them. Heck, you don’t even need security updates on a monthly basis on new Macs running the latest version of macOS.
Apple’s software support for macOS is better than Windows. It’s around double the support life when you look at how long Microsoft supported 2018 hardware vs how long Apple did… And when you look at Apple’s software support beyond new feature updates with updates for security patches, it’s even longer than that…
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No, Apple don't support their hardware longer than Microsoft. Windows 10 is still being supported, it was released 2015 and will be supported at least till 2028 if you want to purchase extra support.
If you got yourself a HP Elitebook 840 G1 (common enterprise model) in 2013 its still being supported with security updates.
If we look at the Macs that are supported today you need at least a Mac from 2017 or 2018 (depending on the model) or later to receive any type of software or security updates. And that has been the case since end of 2024.
One thing that's good with Macs is that you can run other OS on it or use Open Core, but that's not something a mainstream user sitting on an older Mac likely would use.
And since Apple knows exactly what HW they do need to support and patch it shouldn't be a big thing for them to offer the option that for a cheap penny (or free) get updates.
When it comes to the mobile Apple devices we don't have the same options as Macs offer, which is unfortunate.
Apple does deliver a great experience, both SW and HW and they have all the financial muscles and know-how to give users that love their products an even better value for money with longer support and contribute to less electronic waste. Maybe its a case of finding an acceptance with users to pay for updates or offer a iPhone/Mac as a service.
Windows laptops from pre-2019 or so are trapped on Windows 10 without the new features of Windows 11. Apple has given hardware from the same year new features for over double the amount of time Microsoft did. And Apple supported my 2012 MacBook that was beyond irrelevant by the end of its support life with 10 years worth of updates. I don’t think most people hang on to a computer that long, at some point you just need to upgrade because it’s going to be completely outdated and no longer support a bunch of software. My 2012 MacBook began to not support a lot of newer apps and softwares because what developer is going to target or support 10 year-old hardware?
And so a subscription purchase system to eek a few more years of security patches on antique hardware is somehow better than a free Open Core software that extends updates on Mac? And at some point, the horrendous pricing they extract for that subscription would be much better spent on just buying a newer computer that doesn’t require subscription security updates.
Furthermore, Microsoft charges for Windows licenses to PC manufacturers and directly to consumers, so they make money directly from selling licenses of the OS. Apple doesn’t monetize directly from macOS, it’s bundled free with Apple hardware, and is support for around 6-7 years of feature updates, plus several years beyond that of security patches for FREE… That’s more than enough value for customers. By the end of 6-7 years, the hardware is usually ready for an upgrade. And it still receives security updates several years beyond that, so Apple’s software support is more than enough…
How about we stick with the topic at hand about iOS 19 speculation…
One thing that the iPhone is missing is something along the lines of Samsung DeX.
The iPad has Stage Manager but its still lacking some of the desktop feel that DeX has.
Now when USB-C is standard it would be nice to just be able to dock the iPhone and get a desktop experience.
Even if they "just" introduced Stage manager for iOS it would be nice feature to have.
The iPad has Stage Manager but its still lacking some of the desktop feel that DeX has.
Now when USB-C is standard it would be nice to just be able to dock the iPhone and get a desktop experience.
Even if they "just" introduced Stage manager for iOS it would be nice feature to have.
What do you want Apple to do differently and what benefits are you looking for?
Do you want them to not issue software updates at all? No new features? No new hardware support? For how long? Or is this just about them not changing the name from iOS 18 to iOS 19 and then continuing with regular updates?
We are mostly past the days when Apple felt like they had to rush to get all of the new features in place for a September release ready or not. Now it is more of a periodic delivery of features across the year when those features are “done”. That seems like a more sustainable pace.
And this iOS 19 speculation thread is now already becoming a stupid argument over who supports their hardware longer, blah, blah, blah… Apple’s hardware from 2018 is still getting new features, Windows hardware from 2018 is not getting the new Windows features, bang done, end of story. Can we just get back to iOS 19 speculation instead of this silly “I don’t like yearly updates” crapshoot? 🤦🏼♂️🙄. Just create a separate thread for that.
I think that would be a bad idea. Stage Manager is just about right the way it is, and it’s great for the iPad because it actually makes sense on the iPad. It can run on the iPad’s native display. The apps are designed for a larger screen, and there are many desktop class apps on iPad that aren’t on the iPhone. Stage Manager on the iPhone wouldn’t make much sense since the iPhone’s display isn’t big enough to take advantage of it, the apps are designed for smaller screens, and it would dramatically burn through battery runtime, plus you would have to pair it with a keyboard and trackpad, where the iPad has a case that adds those things. In my opinion, DEX is just a show feature that looks cool to some, but struggles to find an actual good use-case outside of a niche of users…
Don't think battery-time would be an issue as you are docked to a USB-C dock or screen and that generally means the phones charging.
Many people don’t have USB-C monitors that support reverse charging. Most people likely still have HDMI monitors. And it would be such a niche thing I don’t think it would make that much sense. Most people would likely never use it. And it would suffer from all of the other problems I laid out as well. I just don’t think it makes that much sense on a phone.
Now Split View, that’s a different story, that could actually make some sense if implemented correctly.
I'd like to see on the Health app the ability to only keep items for a length of time similar to messages - forever, 1 year, 6 months, etc. I know you can manually delete items but I'd like to not have to do that. Also, make the keep/delete on apps working and looking the same as the other apps.