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iOS 27 Speculation Thread

Quasselstripper said:
Yeah that’s also what I’m thinking tbh. Since we are already in the weekly beta cycle they probably thought it’s not worth to hustle on a beta 5 and instead opted to release the normal beta 6 as beta 5. I’m gonna be real frustrated if there’s no new beta on Monday 10am though.
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I agree. At this point, no chances for a beta release this week. But hope remains 😂
 
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gtmead09 said:
So looking ahead this might be a fairly decent guess on how the next 7 weeks or so plays out......

Aug 3 Week - Beta 5
Aug 10 Week - Beta 6
Aug 17 Week - Beta 7
Aug 24 Week - Beta 8
Aug 31 Week - Beta 9, RC1 or potentially nothing
Sept 7 Week - iPhone event / ordering and RC1 maybe RC2 if we get RC1 the prior week.
Sept 14 Week - iOS 27 release and iPhones release on Sept 18

Historical Release Dates:
iOS 26 release date - Sept 15
iOS 18 release date - Sept 16
iOS 17 release date - Sept 18
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When I mapped this out, I was really on the fence about that RC1 / beta 9 week. If we don't get a beta today, I wonder if this is a alignment week in the schedule. Because skipping this week could get us to this schedule:

Aug 10 Week - Beta 5
Aug 17 Week - Beta 6
Aug 24 Week - Beta 7
Aug 31 Week - Beta 8
Sept 7 Week - iPhone event / ordering and RC
Sept 14 Week - iOS 27 release and iPhones release on Sept 18

Starting at iOS 13, we only had one year where the X.0 got to a ninth beta. The rest have been 8 betas before getting to the RC.
 
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gtmead09 said:
... I wonder if this is a alignment week in the schedule. ...

Starting at iOS 13, we only had one year where the X.0 got to a ninth beta. The rest have been 8 betas before getting to the RC.
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An interesting observation.

Another factor to consider is that the work doesn't abruptly stop entirely, just because they don't release a new beta in a given week. Apple's developers are actively engaged in fixing the various bugs that have been (and are being) reported in the current beta cycle. If active bug reports (and therefore, active development) never falls to the anticipated trickle, I would imagine there's not going to be a major push internally to get all of the currently completed fixes out to the beta users.

So, a lack of new betas can potentially mean either very good progress and an impending RC... or very bad progress and lots of work left to go.
 
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We’re gonna get GTA VI before we get beta 5.
 

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zarmanto said:
An interesting observation.

Another factor to consider is that the work doesn't abruptly stop entirely, just because they don't release a new beta in a given week. Apple's developers are actively engaged in fixing the various bugs that have been (and are being) reported in the current beta cycle. If active bug reports (and therefore, active development) never falls to the anticipated trickle, I would imagine there's not going to be a major push internally to get all of the currently completed fixes out to the beta users.

So, a lack of new betas can potentially mean either very good progress and an impending RC... or very bad progress and lots of work left to go.
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Agree, I wasn't attempting to imply they stopped working. Just wondering if this gap was more planned then a show stopper bug. We'll never know, but just throwing it out for fun and speculation lol.
 
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J Ham said:
... and saw iOS 8 beta 3 is the only Thursday release 😕
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Artemiz said:
... I'm fairly certain that's not true. ...
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Right; Quasselstripper's bar chart appears to show that there have been 34 beta releases on a Thursday -- though, I am somewhat curious as to where he sourced the underlying data. (Also, his statement about the most likely day remains true for both today and tomorrow! 😉 )

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Today is the most likely day remaining this week!

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ibookemo said:
Cobold's post about kernel dates deserved more attention than it got, because it reframes the whole wait.

If beta 4's kernel was built on 14 July and shipped on the 20th as an f compile, that is six passes in under a week. Apple is not sitting on a finished build two or three betas ahead of us. They are compiling right up to the wire and throwing most of it away.

Which makes the letter a rough proxy for how much grief a build gave them on the way out. gtmead09 was half joking about wanting A and B builds by the RC, but that is exactly the shape you would want to see this late in the cycle. By that logic a beta 5 that turns up two days late as a c would be a better sign than one that arrived bang on Monday as another f. Worth checking the build string rather than the date when it does land.

No build has ever arrived faster for being refreshed at, sadly.
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This is such an AI voice.
 
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Prob next Monday, I'm debating if this upcoming beta will be solid enough for me to jump in with my daily driver iPhone Air. Been holding off as I read iPhone mirroring wasn't working on these betas. Was that fixed?
 
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Prob next Monday, I'm debating if this upcoming beta will be solid enough for me to jump in with my daily driver iPhone Air. Been holding off as I read iPhone mirroring wasn't working on these betas. Was that fixed?
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I'm having no issues with mirroring my Air to my MBP; as a matter of fact, it improved

And it's nice; I've had Claude Cowork interact with the phone directly that way! =)
 
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What if their update mechanism is broken and they're busy trying to sort that out?

Apparently, people already on 18.7.8 are getting prompted to install the 18.7.8 update, but the description of the update is actually for 18.4...and it installs iOS 26.6! 😱

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/am-i-being-tricked-into-installing-ios-26.2486454/

B5 will come out when it comes out. The reality is, it can be any day of the week. I think we've made it clear that updates have been released on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Fridays at some point in the past. Anything is possible.
 
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Jakimo said:
I'm having no issues with mirroring my Air to my MBP; as a matter of fact, it improved

And it's nice; I've had Claude Cowork interact with the phone directly that way! =)
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good to hear, any issues with Messages not syncing? I remember that was an issue in one of the earlier betas, were messages were not being marked as read between devices.
 
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