The iPhone screen size is too small. Once you go 4.3 inches or larger you can't look back. Even iOS 7 can't change that for me.
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iOS 7 announcement will decide 5S vs Andriod
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I like controlling my mobile devices with one hand. I don't care what anyone says..small or large hands, the iPhone is easier and more comfortable to use one handed. When Apple does eventually come out with a 4.3" + screen I will deal with it then. But for now the iPhone screen is perfect.
Yeah.
It looks horrible. I dont like so much transparency everywhere. Its in your face all of the time and is distracting.
Many people will hate it after a week. Im sure.
Apple slayed the competition once again. Android fanboys better superglue their wigs to their scalps come September.
You wish. Android is still far far ahead. The new design is not great and very little new features.
I will admit that I like the look of the new ios. I'm glad that messages looks different now. But I reall wanted the ability to customize colors. And we still aren't getting that, unless I am mistaken. And realtime info on the home screen like windows phone.
The quick settings and game pad API, plus the possibility to lock the device even after it's been wiped clean is amazing. Great. I love this OS for a phone except for the icons that got hit by an ugly stick all night long. But unless there's more coming to the iPad - this is it on the tablet side.
iOS 7 looks great and Apple delivered. They have mostly eliminated my need to jailbreak now.
As for Android lag, yes the GS4 lags but the HTC One that thing is pretty smooth. Almost iPhone smooth.
As for Android lag, yes the GS4 lags but the HTC One that thing is pretty smooth. Almost iPhone smooth.
I am looking forward to hearing the features of the next iPhone. I thought that I would see what features would make me shell out for the new one rather than scoop up a 5 as its price will come down. However, now I think that it will support 802.11ac wifi and that will push me over. Better camera will just be a bonus. And, uh, iOS7 will be the frosting.
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This poll is oddly biased. Every answer seems tilted against the iPhone. The first one is what androdians would call a fanboy answer. The rest are all answers implying that you would be better off not upgrading. Better impress or I am leaving? Definitely leaving? Not bothering?
Give me a break
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This poll is oddly biased. Every answer seems tilted against the iPhone. The first one is what androdians would call a fanboy answer. The rest are all answers implying that you would be better off not upgrading. Better impress or I am leaving? Definitely leaving? Not bothering?
Give me a break
I'm with ya...kinda
. I've got a GNote and iPhone 5. Love having both...but I'm curious...as another poster asked, what is it about the iP5 that makes you reminisce about---and/or miss your iPhone 4s? As an owner of every iteration of iPhone, The 5 is easily my favorite version.Most still the do. The HTC1 (Sense has become MUCH less bloated and performs admirably) and any of the Nexus (IE--Vanilla Android) are exceptions. The S4 and TouchWiz---again, I own a Note...is full of bloat, and the carrier throws their crap on top (Maybe not overseas? I'm in America...perhaps we're seeing the worst of it)...definitely 'lags' from time to time and can be attributed to the manufacturers 'bloat' software skins they're adding on top. Reminds me of the 90s....even in to the 21st century, the crap/bloat-ware each individual manufacturer throws on top of their machines. Those old enough to remember our parents getting their first computers in the 90s/2000s....only to slide that disc that came in the mail from AOL for the '5,000 free minutes'....only to NEVER be able to release that machine from the shackles of AOL again. While TouchWiz isn't as bad as AOL was...coupled with the carrier BS, Samsung phones can and do lag. A lot of the 'gimmickry' isn't necessary. Some of their unique features are cool...many aren't and most are unnecessary IMHO.
I can't get rid of my Note quick enough...it's my least favorite smart phone purchase I've ever made. We use it solely for contract signing for our business and taking credit card payments. Other than that, it collects dust. iP5 is my (our) daily driver(s) (Speaking of my family and employees).
Kinda lame (and against forum rules) to call someone names....especially a 'liar'. Shows your true colors. He didn't specify the HTC one, which, in and of itself is an anomaly. It's definitely smooth....but unfortunately, that's not ubiquitous throughout the 'high end' Android market/options.
There is absolutely NO argument that iOS is the more fluent of operating systems....it's taken HTC to show the One, without the latest version of Android, to deliver a smooth experience close to matching the iPhone/iOS. To argue that is silly. Android has gotten MUCH better...I'll give you that. But until they take the layer of frosting off the top (Java)---it'll take more powerful hardware, more RAM, faster GPU and storage JUST to achieve parity with iOS and it's 'smooth-ness'. Not sure how you can abhor information like this...it's a few folks' opinion and MOST of the folks that 'hang' on MR are fellow 'geeks'....we all enjoy technology, and while opinions may be subjective...many of those opinions are shared by reviewers and owners alike.
Again---I didn't see him say the HTC One lags specifically. It's cool that an Android (non Nexus) has finally gotten to this point....now, it would be nice if Samsung took notice and instead of packing 'features' (read gimmicks) into their flagship devices, because they do produce outstanding hardware (Not including their choice of external build materials, IE Plastic).
There's a reason Samsung is readying the option to install vanilla Android on the S4---and possibly retroactive to the S3. I hate to just pick on Samsung, because other Android manufacturers and carriers are just as guilty. That said, the Galaxy series from Samsung seems to be their cash cow...and the only phones in the world that come 'close' to iPhone sales. It's a natural comparison.
Apparently you just don't 'get it'. Apple releases features when they're ready for prime time. When they DON'T slow down your user experience. Android is definitely not 'far ahead'. It's a different OS (one that I do like by the way and work with often)---with different options and a different approach to how a smart phone can be used. iOS, same thing. Making things 'simple' is extremely complicated on the 'back end'. The simpler a device is to use, the more complex the associated software programming. If you develop, code, or are otherwise familiar with the process....you'd know just HOW sophisticated the underlying code is to offer such a fluid experience. I like how Apple has borrowed from the Jailbreak community....offering different ideas that folks have come up with that DO make the experience better....and they're shutting the gap on the need to jail break....as well as closing the window on things Android can do that iOS can't. With iOS there are still plenty of 'pros' that aren't included with Android...in my opinion, the big 2----everyone gets the OS update immediately (Hardware obviously a determining factor) and secondarily, the App Store. Obviously there are plenty of 'cross platform' options BUT, the Big Ones start on iOS...are supported better on iOS....and a quick look at the 'Top 100' in the Play store vs. the App Store is pretty telling on who uses each. Half the top 10 in the Play store are 'tools'....different software to diddle with the software, Root, Play with ROMS...in other words, 'make your phone better'....or more usable. Completely different in the iOS world. An app store loaded with compelling and excellent software....whether you want to play games, write a book, scan and manipulate PDFs, create music, video and photography....flight planning/computers, approach plates and GPS/ADS-B communication...the list truly goes on, forever. Google Play, while getting better...isn't there yet, not by a long shot, especially in the creative world (Music apps specifically because that's my deal...but I know when it comes to video, photography, writing....etc, Apple's app store and development community is definitely further along).
Again...just my humble opinion as owners of both. The new 'Ive' design to me looks excellent. Borrowing from SBSettings (one of the BIG Jailbreak desires), a newer and more efficient way of multi-tasking...they've done some serious work over this past year/18 months.
There are arguments for either platform, that's the 'truth'. But to imply that Android is 'far ahead' is a pretty funny joke....especially considering most folks with Android devices are still using (more than 50%) a version of 2.x.x
J
I'm with ya...kinda
It's not so much reminiscing, I just don't really see a strict benefit from the iPhone 5 over the 4S. The software is the same (which is great, as these arbitrary limitations were stupid to begin with), and the extra screen real estate doesn't really feel like extra real estate at all. Really, the nicest thing is LTE, which I would probably miss the most, though there are areas where I am dropped down to HSPA+ and don't really notice a difference.
At the end of the day, is the 5 better? Yes. It's just not enough better for me to feel like it was a worthy upgrade. From a user experience standpoint I felt the jump from 4 to 4S much more than I did 4S to 5. But who knows, the 5S may do the same. And I won't lie, I was thoroughly impressed with iOS 7. They pretty much gave me everything I have loved in Android for years now, aside from loading apps from a third party, but I don't think that will ever change without government interference.
Gotcha---makes sense. Definitely Different strokes....yada yada. I actually appreciate the screen size, the weight difference and absolutely with you on LTE. I'm fortunate, as AT&T has blanketed our area with the quicker speeds which is kind of an anomaly for Alaska. Typically we're a couple years behind the rest of the country
....That said, my wife took my 4s and isn't fond (at all) of my '5'. HSPA+ Speeds are quick around here too---but I think a combination of a smaller market and not too many folks on LTE devices combines for an extremely fast browsing experience. As well...for MY eyes, the extra real estate helps...a LOT 42 years old and these eyes aren't getting any 'better' Lastly---the speed of everything is faster, loading pages, apps, populating FlipBoard...most common tasks, for me, I've noticed a big improvement. As well, I'm a pilot and the GPS locks for me with Foreflight, EFB and a couple of aviation calculators seem quicker and easier to 'see' and utilize.
That said...the 4s is a bad ass phone. It always made me laugh when folks talked about it being a 'non' upgrade from the 4...as the 4s and it's updated processing and RAM benefitted tremendously when it came to performance over the standard 4....an excellent phone for it's time with the introduction to the smart phone market of HiDPI displays.
Thanks for sharing. Hope the 5s is what you're looking for. Didn't you, too, mention you use both Android and iOS (I do too....GNote, Nexus 7 which I don't care for at all...but I still use my original Xoom quite often)? If it was you, which Android hardware are you using....and what is your feelings between the two?....I'm with you. iOS7 looks to be an amazing update, ala iOS5. I'm excited, and my wife's 4s contract is up right now. Whether or not she'll take the '5' from me and I pick up the 5s is still up for debate
J
Since Auxo and Zephyr are still far better than iOS 7 method of multi tasking, nope.
Also there are 5-6 other jailbreak tweaks none of which got "copied" this time.
However, kudos to Ive for copying Matias, now all the people who jumped to android from iOS because of the stale argument can go back and leave the real users behind.
Also there are 5-6 other jailbreak tweaks none of which got "copied" this time.
However, kudos to Ive for copying Matias, now all the people who jumped to android from iOS because of the stale argument can go back and leave the real users behind.
So OP, now that iOS7 has been annouced do you know if you are going for Android or staying with iPhone? Or are you waiting for the 5S?
Gotcha---makes sense. Definitely Different strokes....yada yada. I actually appreciate the screen size, the weight difference and absolutely with you on LTE. I'm fortunate, as AT&T has blanketed our area with the quicker speeds which is kind of an anomaly for Alaska. Typically we're a couple years behind the rest of the country
Lastly---the speed of everything is faster, loading pages, apps, populating FlipBoard...most common tasks, for me, I've noticed a big improvement. As well, I'm a pilot and the GPS locks for me with Foreflight, EFB and a couple of aviation calculators seem quicker and easier to 'see' and utilize.
That said...the 4s is a bad ass phone. It always made me laugh when folks talked about it being a 'non' upgrade from the 4...as the 4s and it's updated processing and RAM benefitted tremendously when it came to performance over the standard 4....an excellent phone for it's time with the introduction to the smart phone market of HiDPI displays.
Thanks for sharing. Hope the 5s is what you're looking for. Didn't you, too, mention you use both Android and iOS (I do too....GNote, Nexus 7 which I don't care for at all...but I still use my original Xoom quite often)? If it was you, which Android hardware are you using....and what is your feelings between the two?....I'm with you. iOS7 looks to be an amazing update, ala iOS5. I'm excited, and my wife's 4s contract is up right now. Whether or not she'll take the '5' from me and I pick up the 5s is still up for debate
J
I'm with you on everything you said. The 5 is the better phone, as a successor should be. Like I said, it's just not $200 better. I probably would have returned it, but my mom is 65, and has been wanting to try iOS. So the 4s ended up being an addition to her Christmas gift, which she thoroughly appreciated by the way.
I do use all kinds of phones (you saw that from my signature) so that could be part of the reason I wasn't as impressed by the 5 as some others. I think my opinion may have been different from the get go had we gotten ios7 launched with the 5. That's the most impressed ice been with iPhone since the iPhone 4 and the most impressed I've been with iOS since its initial launch.
So the poll shows 56% of MacRumors users would have stayed with the iPhone no matter what iOS 7 was like. That's some strong brand loyalty right there!
I'm happy with iOS 7. I'm not sure what Apple could do/ not do with the 5S to dissuade me from getting it. I'm not having a good experience with my android devices, the S4 doesn't interest me. The note 3/ HTC one are probably the only android phones that remotely interest me. The note 3 will most likely be too big and either way I'm not ready to risk another 2 years of being locked into a contract with an android device. Prior to owning the Samsung galaxy note my last 2 phones were iPhones. They did what I needed and I was happy. Apple have never disappointed me in the past.
Agreed. iOS 7 addresses 100% of my jailbreak tweaks so I'm very happy with what Apple as done.
However I disagree with you android. I think the GS4 is less laggy than the HTC One, but they both lag to a noticeable extent.
I have the galaxy note and I disagree. The screen itself is nice (don't get me started on the rest of the phone), however for various reasons (over heating, battery life, lag, freezing) I can't really make use of it for web browsing, watching
videos etc. in addition to this since getting the iPod touch I've come to appreciate the smaller, more portable and pocketable device.
HOW MANY THREADS are going to compare iPhone to Android? Android is NOT A PHONE. It is an OS that runs on tons of different phones as well as other hardware. Your experience with Android is going to vary greatly, even between the most recent flagship releases.
You can compare iOS to Android. You can compare an iPhone to a Samsung S4. But your thread title is like comparing ice skates to ferraris and then claiming they are both methods of transportation.
You can compare iOS to Android. You can compare an iPhone to a Samsung S4. But your thread title is like comparing ice skates to ferraris and then claiming they are both methods of transportation.
I fully agree. You have, what can be accurately called, fanatics on both sides, defending to the verbal death, their chosen OS and phones.
This article has been cited several times here and elsewhere but is still valid today:
"Please Stop Fighting About Your Smartphone"
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/03/nobody-cares-what-you-think-about-their-phone/
This sub-forum is devolving.
Why is it not okay to compare ios to android? I'm sure many people are tiring of ios and want something fresh. I don't really understand why people are so uptight and defensive. It's just a discussion. This discussion shouldn't bother anyone. To each his/her own.
IOS 7 or whatever version doesn't matter to 99% of the folks who will purchase the 5s, especially if they are looking for a bigger screen and are accomodated. That will be a much much bigger factor besides other variables they may be looking for and I do not think the upgrade version of the OS matters to them as much and would steer them towards Android instead.
Go to an Apple Store and ask people on line on release day if IOS 7 mattered in their decision. It may have some influence per se but not alot.
Me? I bought the HTC One and IOS version did not matter since I bought it before it was announced. I might even be surprised if the 5s is half the best the One or S4 is to tell the truth.
Next question.
Go to an Apple Store and ask people on line on release day if IOS 7 mattered in their decision. It may have some influence per se but not alot.
Me? I bought the HTC One and IOS version did not matter since I bought it before it was announced. I might even be surprised if the 5s is half the best the One or S4 is to tell the truth.
Next question.
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Congratulations, you've successfully used the first fallacy of MacRumors: All Android phones lag
For your next challenge, try the following:
'I'd love to try Alternative Product X, but I'm too invested into the ecosystem, so I'm going to invest some more'
I guess it depends on when what comes out.
Right now I have an iPhone 4 (Verizon) so its been about 1.5 years. Hopefully iPhone 5S and Nexus 5 come out around the same time.
If I were to go Android I want to go stock, I dislike Touchwiz or Sense.
Two main barriers from me getting an Android phone are:
1) I'm somewhat invested in iOS ecosystem
2) iPhone is on Verizon on Day 1, I know lots of Android phones which carriers control and stuff. its annoying
Right now I have an iPhone 4 (Verizon) so its been about 1.5 years. Hopefully iPhone 5S and Nexus 5 come out around the same time.
If I were to go Android I want to go stock, I dislike Touchwiz or Sense.
Two main barriers from me getting an Android phone are:
1) I'm somewhat invested in iOS ecosystem
2) iPhone is on Verizon on Day 1, I know lots of Android phones which carriers control and stuff. its annoying