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stooovie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2010
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Clean installs are placebo in a way. You do get smooth system when it's empty, but as soon as you install a few apps and get a few apps in the app switcher, stuff goes back to where it's been before. Not worth it most of the time. I have tried it many, many times since 2008 and it never "fixed" any real issue.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Clean installs are placebo in a way. You do get smooth system when it's empty, but as soon as you install a few apps and get a few apps in the app switcher, stuff goes back to where it's been before. Not worth it most of the time. I have tried it many, many times since 2008 and it never "fixed" any real issue.
Sounds like you haven't ran into an issue that a reset of settings or a restore can help with. Various others have.
 

FatPuppy

macrumors 68000
Jul 14, 2012
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My old iPhone 5 is now perfect 60FPS. Stutter is completely gone from app switcher, even with transparency enabled. See this 60FPS video (it does play 60fps in YouTube app):
I saw your video and my first reaction was: "ARE YOU FU****** KIDDING ME????" Besides the spotlight lag, that junk from 2012 is smoother than an iphone 6.
 

Radon87000

macrumors 604
Nov 29, 2013
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I saw your video and my first reaction was: "ARE YOU FU****** KIDDING ME????" Besides the spotlight lag, that junk from 2012 is smoother than an iphone 6.
Which makes me ****in angry as I am dealing with lag all the time.How is that dinosaur so smooth dman it
 

stooovie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2010
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Sounds like you haven't ran into an issue that a reset of settings or a restore can help with. Various others have.
Reset settings did help a number of times, yes. But clean restore didn't ever bring any extra speed or smoothness for more than a couple of hours.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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I saw your video and my first reaction was: "ARE YOU FU****** KIDDING ME????" Besides the spotlight lag, that junk from 2012 is smoother than an iphone 6.
Is iPhone 5 the only 32-bit processor phone with 1GB of ram?
 

Nevaborn

macrumors 65816
Aug 30, 2013
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Battery life is slightly better but not anywhere near 9.02. However I have no lag or stutter. Feels smoother than 9.1

But may find an issue at some point
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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Yes along with 5c
This just shows how Apple plans to abandon their first and second generation 64-but devices. Apple should introduce 2GB ram from iPhone 5s, and at least 6 series.
Now, ok, everyone knows that iPhone 6s introduces 2GB ram.
 

bbfc

macrumors 68040
Oct 22, 2011
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Newcastle, England.
My old iPhone 5 is now perfect 60FPS. Stutter is completely gone from app switcher, even with transparency enabled. See this 60FPS video (it does play 60fps in YouTube app):
Really smooth for an older device. My iPhone 6+ is just as smooth on 9.2 now. It was stuttering all the time on 9.0/9.1.
 

thed0g

macrumors regular
Oct 22, 2015
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My old iPhone 5 is now perfect 60FPS. Stutter is completely gone from app switcher, even with transparency enabled. See this 60FPS video (it does play 60fps in YouTube app):
60fps works in Youtube app yeah. Can you make a video with slowly opening the CC ? And also while slowly scrolling left and right in the share sheet.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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Animations are definitely smoother on my 6+. App switcher in particular is much improved.
Yes. The app switcher is now real 60fps.

And app switching performance seems improved quite a bit.
 

canesalato

Cancelled
Jan 31, 2010
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iPad Air 2:
- app switcher not totally smooth. But better than before
- much less lag when you swype from the right to call splitview with the keyboard on the screen
- spotlight animation still stutters,
- lag when tapping an app on the home screen still present
 

stooovie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2010
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This just shows how Apple plans to abandon their first and second generation 64-but devices. Apple should introduce 2GB ram from iPhone 5s, and at least 6 series.
Now, ok, everyone knows that iPhone 6s introduces 2GB ram.

I don't think this is related to RAM at all. Simply going to and from app switcher doesn't increase memory load at all and yet the stutter was there, every time. Also, it wasn't there with transparency disabled. IMHO it's purely the case of Metal performing worse than OpenGL. iPhone 5S and newer use Metal whereas my old i5 uses OpenGL, so there you go. Ironic really given that the sole purpose of Metal was to increase performance. It will, probably, but not yet.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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I don't think this is related to RAM at all. Simply going to and from app switcher doesn't increase memory load at all and yet the stutter was there, every time. Also, it wasn't there with transparency disabled. IMHO it's purely the case of Metal performing worse than OpenGL. iPhone 5S and newer use Metal whereas my old i5 uses OpenGL, so there you go. Ironic really given that the sole purpose of Metal was to increase performance. It will, probably, but not yet.
But on WWDC, their demo runs really smooth, and result is proven to be great.
Well, talking about Metal, I cannot even run those GTXBench tests, saying API is not supported, both for Metal and OpenGL. But when running 3DMark 1.2.0 test, when scenario contains lots of particles and lightnings, frame rate drops rapidly. Maybe because A8 does not have any improvements under the hood.
 

stooovie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2010
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But on WWDC, their demo runs really smooth, and result is proven to be great.
Well, talking about Metal, I cannot even run those GTXBench tests, saying API is not supported, both for Metal and OpenGL. But when running 3DMark 1.2.0 test, when scenario contains lots of particles and lightnings, frame rate drops rapidly. Maybe because A8 does not have any improvements under the hood.
Demos are highly orchestrated, probably using special limited builds - that's why you usually don't see any glitches, bugs and crashes, even if there are ********s of them in betas.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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Demos are highly orchestrated, probably using special limited builds - that's why you usually don't see any glitches, bugs and crashes, even if there are ********s of them in betas.
Yeah I highly doubt this when using iOS 9.

But why in jobs era, there Were examples of software glitches on stage, while in Cook era, they are gone? Apple has acquired skills to create a good public image when introducing software?
 

stooovie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2010
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I think they are just even more highly orchestrated now :) Tim Cook is not the kind of person to spin a presentation failure into capital.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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I think they are just even more highly orchestrated now :) Tim Cook is not the kind of person to spin a presentation failure into capital.
All, right. Seems that presentation can only be treated as...can only be considered as an introduction, uh. What I want to say is we now need to get in touch with product more than before.
 

stooovie

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2010
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314
All, right. Seems that presentation can only be treated as...can only be considered as an introduction, uh.

Oh definitely. Event demos are only just that - demonstrations. They have almost no bearing on any real world performance.
 
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