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Better than iOS 9.3.3?


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iossofar

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May 23, 2016
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I think 9.3.4 is not just a jailbreak fix update ! There is something serious here ! I think it is a huge flaw in security and resource (maybe RAM or ROM Read Write ) management. Apple could just fix that jailbreak issue without using Pangu's name. Apple just wanted to delude everyone that this update is just a jailbreak fix. But after you look to the big picture and consider the average updates release pace you will find it a sudden and suspicious move, as if there was a serious bug which existed in IOS 9 since day one and they found it and in hurry to fix this vital issue.
Performance is better now on my 4s because it is an old device. But I don't think newer generation devices will achieve a noticeable improvement with 9.3.4 compared to 9.3.3.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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Honestly, I see no good reason why anyone should update to iOS 9.3.4. Need convincing? Read on.
  • "I don't jailbreak my device, and I feel this security update is important to me." Even if you don't jailbreak, I highly doubt you'd be affected by this security issue through normal use, as it requires a specific signed app to be installed. Only Apple (or you through side loading) can officially approve signed apps, and if you're a side loader, let's face it: you're in the minority, and you probably understand the general risks around it in the first place.
  • "I cannot stand all the alerts/notification icon in Settings." As we know, there are ways to remove these through Settings and installing specific device profiles. So you shouldn't be too concerned about this.
  • "I want to get on the latest iOS 9 version so my device is worth more when I resell it." I get it; an iOS device on iOS 7.1.2 is definitely worth more than one on iOS 7.0. That being said, I feel like staying on iOS 9.3.3 is better for resale value than going to iOS 9.3.4. And this is because iOS 9.3.4 ONLY fixes an exploit that lets the end user have exclusive fun with his/her phone.
  • "I just want to be on the latest version. Period." Well if that's the case, there's nothing I can do to stop you. Just understand that there's ultimately no benefit by updating other than the satisfaction of staying up to date.
You seem to treat that last option as if it's some sort of a weird or bad option even though it's one of the more straightforward rational/reasonable ones for many people that don't jailbreak their devices. Certainly getting security issues patched up (in this particular case) and getting other fixes/improvements (in various other cases with updates) is a good reason to stay up-to-date.
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I think 9.3.4 is not just a jailbreak fix update ! There is something serious here ! I think it is a huge flaw in security and resource (maybe RAM or ROM Read Write ) management. Apple could just fix that jailbreak issue without using Pangu's name. Apple just wanted to delude everyone that this update is just a jailbreak fix. But after you look to the big picture and consider the average updates release pace you will find it a sudden and suspicious move, as if there was a serious bug which existed in IOS 9 since day one and they found it and in hurry to fix this vital issue.
Performance is better now on my 4s because it is an old device. But I don't think newer generation devices will achieve a noticeable improvement with 9.3.4 compared to 9.3.3.
If Pangu found/reported the issue so it seems appropriate to give them credit for it. Jailbreaks work by exploiting a security issue, so it's reasonable for Apple to want to patch a security issue sooner rather than later. It all seems fairly straightforward.
 
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M. Gustave

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Jun 6, 2015
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After updating to 9.3.4 i lost all of my Apple Music that i have downloaded. Again. Just awesome. 20 gigs of select music just gone.

Are you signed in to iCloud, and the App Store? Did you just update 9.3.3, or install as new?

I updated to 9.3.4, and all my downloaded Apple Music is untouched.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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I think 9.3.4 is not just a jailbreak fix update ! There is something serious here ! I think it is a huge flaw in security and resource (maybe RAM or ROM Read Write ) management. Apple could just fix that jailbreak issue without using Pangu's name. Apple just wanted to delude everyone that this update is just a jailbreak fix. But after you look to the big picture and consider the average updates release pace you will find it a sudden and suspicious move, as if there was a serious bug which existed in IOS 9 since day one and they found it and in hurry to fix this vital issue.
Performance is better now on my 4s because it is an old device. But I don't think newer generation devices will achieve a noticeable improvement with 9.3.4 compared to 9.3.3.
Unless Apple states it, it's impossible to second guess them.
 

Ternary

macrumors regular
Jul 4, 2015
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You seem to treat that last option as if it's some sort of a weird or bad option even though it's one of the more straightforward rational/reasonable ones for many people that don't jailbreak their devices. Certainly getting security issues patched up (in this particular case) and getting other fixes/improvements (in various other cases with updates) is a good reason to stay up-to-date.
I can see where you're coming from, and yes, it is rational to get security issues and bugs patched up. iOS 9.3.3, for instance, was worthwhile since it patched a security flaw that allowed people to steal passwords by sending a text message. That's serious.

But this update, as far as I know, doesn't patch any critical security flaws that would affect a typical user. The only way I can see the exploit in question being abused is through either:

1) Apple not being careful enough during the app approval process or
2) a user installing side-loaded apps.

The first case is next to impossible, since Apple is generally competent, and there's an extremely low chance any developer trying to get their app in the App Store would deliberately place the exploit in their code. That being said, the odds aren't 0%, which COULD be justification to update, but that's really pushing it. As for the second case, installing unknown side-loaded apps already has risks to begin with regardless of iOS version. If a side-loader who happens to not jailbreak (already rare to begin with) feels like he or she needs that extra protection, then go ahead and update. But let's face it: side-loading will still be risky anyway, and this is an incredibly small exception.

You also mention fixes/improvements, but iOS 9.3.4 is noted to have NO non-security bug fixes. Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've heard.

In conclusion, you're right, but in this particular release, there's no reason to update unless someone is in the above mentioned minority or they just like staying up to date.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I can see where you're coming from, and yes, it is rational to get security issues and bugs patched up. iOS 9.3.3, for instance, was worthwhile since it patched a security flaw that allowed people to steal passwords by sending a text message. That's serious.

But this update, as far as I know, doesn't patch any critical security flaws that would affect a typical user. The only way I can see the exploit in question being abused is through either:

1) Apple not being careful enough during the app approval process or
2) a user installing side-loaded apps.

The first case is next to impossible, since Apple is generally competent, and there's an extremely low chance any developer trying to get their app in the App Store would deliberately place the exploit in their code. That being said, the odds aren't 0%, which COULD be justification to update, but that's really pushing it. As for the second case, installing unknown side-loaded apps already has risks to begin with regardless of iOS version. If a side-loader who happens to not jailbreak (already rare to begin with) feels like he or she needs that extra protection, then go ahead and update. But let's face it: side-loading will still be risky anyway, and this is an incredibly small exception.

You also mention fixes/improvements, but iOS 9.3.4 is noted to have NO non-security bug fixes. Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I've heard.

In conclusion, you're right, but in this particular release, there's no reason to update unless someone is in the above mentioned minority or they just like staying up to date.
Well, someone that is on 9.3.3 and doesn't care about jailbreaking doesn't really have anything to lose by updating and getting the newest version with a security issue that has been patched (no matter how unlikely its exploit might be). For them 9.3.4 is 9.3.3 plus a fix (again, even if for something that might not ultimately affect them).
 

sneeks

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Oct 21, 2007
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My update was 1.4gb on my iPhone and only 24mb on the iPad Mini. I'm guessing 9.3.4 has replaced my 9.3.3 beta which is why the update file was so large on the iPhone.
 

SGT.GREER

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Jun 27, 2016
46
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Are you signed in to iCloud, and the App Store? Did you just update 9.3.3, or install as new?

I updated to 9.3.4, and all my downloaded Apple Music is untouched.

Updated. Hours spent on phone with Apple Music support and nothing. This is 4th time.
 

iRoRo

macrumors regular
Oct 29, 2013
107
1
UK
Any update which is more secure is better than the last iteration.
Performance may take a hit but, integrity and security wins in my book.
 

JustinRP37

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Jun 14, 2016
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New York, NY
I just had an issue where Night Shift was on during the day on both iPad Pro and iPhone 6s with it set to sunset to sunrise. On the iPhone I just turned Night Shift off and back on and it worked. On the iPad Pro I had to turn Night Shift off and back on followed by a force restart. Anyone else see this?
 

miragebg

macrumors 6502a
Mar 23, 2009
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Any thoughts about the battery life on 9.3.4? Mine seems to be worse compared to 9.3.3...
 

Tech198

Cancelled
Mar 21, 2011
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Apple revisited this bug again... Fixed in 9.3.3 but they broke it again in 9.3.4, or some issues with updating caused this again

After u import photos (taken in camera app) to Mac , and delete photos Mac via "image Capture" "delete" red symobl tool, image(s) are gone from the phone, but the thumbnail still appears in camera app (bottom left links to photos app), yet when u tap the image, No photos are displayed.

I remember the "fix" for this last time was not update, but a restore.... (am still trying to justify "why* an update alone would do this). Apple has no idea why it happens after an update. (and no photos previously in camera roll before update).

Getting the same battery like in 9.3.4
 
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JetBlack7

macrumors 68030
May 14, 2011
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  • "I just want to be on the latest version. Period." Well if that's the case, there's nothing I can do to stop you. Just understand that there's ultimately no benefit by updating other than the satisfaction of staying up to date.

And the fact that your phone is up to date with the latest security version, making it safer, which is the most important thing a person wants I assume. If you don't feel safe using your phone, you won't enjoy it, rather the contrary.
 
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I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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I just had an issue where Night Shift was on during the day on both iPad Pro and iPhone 6s with it set to sunset to sunrise. On the iPhone I just turned Night Shift off and back on and it worked. On the iPad Pro I had to turn Night Shift off and back on followed by a force restart. Anyone else see this?
My night shift stopped working. It took me a while but I figured out it was the set time zone under system services..I toggled it off and on and night shift started working.
 

iossofar

macrumors newbie
May 23, 2016
8
1
It's the best update ever.

Battery life has improved significantly.
My phone is so much faster.


Not one hint of sarcasm in my post by the way it's all true
I agree 100% . Energy consumption is way more logical now. in idle mode it's the best power saving update. and overall you feel more stability and responsiveness accurate behavior.
 

Mlrollin91

macrumors G5
Nov 20, 2008
14,172
10,187
I agree 100% . Energy consumption is way more logical now. in idle mode it's the best power saving update. and overall you feel more stability and responsiveness accurate behavior.

My battery life has also improved, not by much, but still an improvement. I can squeeze out about an extra 45 minutes.
 
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iossofar

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May 23, 2016
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My battery life has also improved, not by much, but still an improvement. I can squeeze out about an extra 45 minutes.
That's why i mentioned in my first post here that this update is not just a jailbreak fix. It feels like this update fixes an important part or mechanism in ios 9 core.
 
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