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I'm not sure what part of it is defending Apple, I'm simply talking about how things are done in the tech industry and how they likely are happening at Apple. People should report bugs that they encounter, and provide any other feedback that they can or want, but that's more or less as much as they can do (short of trying to contact the company support more directly, which is usually for more severe issues).

Based on how many reports of an issue come in, what kind of an issue it is, if it's something that happens all the time or just sometimes, how much of an impact it has (disables something, makes a feature not work correctly, just a visual item that doesn't affect functionality, etc.) there's some severity and priority that gets assigned to the issue during a triage, and then at some point as releases are scheduled and new features, improvements, updates/modifications, and bug fixes are considered it gets decided what gets taken on and what doesn't, and even then not everything that gets taken on might end up actually getting in at that time.

The reality is that most software, and especially something as large and complex as an OS, is ever or will ever be bug free, and there's really no realistic expectation for that to be the case. Now, that doesn't diminish the issues people run into, and that doesn't mean that they shouldn't be reported and shouldn't be fixed in one way or another hopefully sooner or later. But it does mean that depending on the issue it might be something that doesn't get fixed for some time and sometimes not for a long time. Again, it's not to say that's good or right, it's simply to say that's basically the reality that has pretty much always been part of the industry.

We are talking about world's most biggest tech company and u simply saying Apple dont have enought workers for fix bugs. Allright this Conversation is over.
 
We are talking about world's most biggest tech company and u simply saying Apple dont have enought workers for fix bugs. Allright this Conversation is over.
Yes, I'm talking about the reality of how things work in the tech industry. It's not about how big a company is or anything like that--sometimes smaller companies do more than larger ones and sometimes vice versa--it's simply about how it is. You certainly don't have to believe it if you don't want to for some reason and/or certainly don't have to like it, but none of that changes that reality (which, again, since it seems to get ignored, I'm not saying is good or right, just that that's what it is).
 
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Thank goodness for this release! The last beta made watching videos on an iPad Pro unbearable. That problem seems to be corrected.
 
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Interesting notes about battery drain in the release notes

Just a warning to all: If you "sign out of iCloud" and sign back in on your Mac, and use iCloud Photo Library, it will proceed to resync your ENTIRE library, which takes hours and hours and wastes a ton of bandwidth. I have unlimited so it's not a monetary issue for me, just annoying, but this can impact some folks if you're not careful.

It doesn't upload EVERYTHING again, but WILL waste a few gigs of bandwidth re-uploading intermediate data (thumbnails, converted videos, etc.). I really wish Apple would streamline this resyncing process; it's so wasteful and irritating. This is the second time I go through it (on my iMac now) in a few weeks since I reinstalled my Macbook Pro.
 
Oh wow, this was unexpected.

I was expecting a beta next week. I just noticed beta 5 was out.

Gg, Apple.

I'll test it now and include my first impressions.
 
Looks like the "status bar disappearing for a split second when unlocking your iPhone" bug is fixed in beta 5, as well as the issue I had with the weather not appearing in Notification Center on my iPad :D
 
Very solid on iPhone 6s so far, although the annoying issue where the animations break by Assistive Touch is still present.

No visible lag anywhere, speed seems about the same all throughout. The app switcher sometimes jitters a bit sometimes though (present for a while, not beta exclusive).

Battery life seems the same so far.
[doublepost=1456883011][/doublepost]Uh, should there be three rows of suggested apps?

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Is it just me or my VVM notification is back,but still shows unknown on every VM... Tmobile iphone6s...

Anyone else?
 
New bug on iPad Air:

After unlocking, or sometimes after pressing the home button, only the wallpaper is shown with nothing else. Only a restart restores behaviour. Pretty serious issue.
I've had this bug since 9.3 beta 1 on my mini 2, on and off. I've reported it every beta, hasn't been touched. Extremely annoying when I slide to unlock and it doesn't work. Sometimes several times in a row. However I don't know how to reliably reproduce it, it doesn't always happen. Haven't heard anybody else mention they're having the same issue until now.
Very solid on iPhone 6s so far, although the annoying issue where the animations break by Assistive Touch is still present.

No visible lag anywhere, speed seems about the same all throughout. The app switcher sometimes jitters a bit sometimes though (present for a while, not beta exclusive).

Battery life seems the same so far.
[doublepost=1456883011][/doublepost]Uh, should there be three rows of suggested apps?

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How do you reproduce this broken animations bug? Just curious.

Also the app switcher jitteriness is directly related to the blurred app in the background. iPad mini 2, extremely snappy, fast, quick, and smooth if there are only 2 apps in the switcher. 3 or more (blurred app now) very sluggish and many frame drops. Increase contrast yields an awesome app switcher experience. I've reported this to Apple, they apparently don't give a damn anymore, it's good enough.

And I've seen the proactive search pane do weird things like that before. Not sure how to trigger or fix, it switches up and it's a little weird but it doesn't negatively impact much so I let it slide.
 
I've had this bug since 9.3 beta 1 on my mini 2, on and off. I've reported it every beta, hasn't been touched. Extremely annoying when I slide to unlock and it doesn't work. Sometimes several times in a row. However I don't know how to reliably reproduce it, it doesn't always happen. Haven't heard anybody else mention they're having the same issue until now.

How do you reproduce this broken animations bug? Just curious.

Also the app switcher jitteriness is directly related to the blurred app in the background. iPad mini 2, extremely snappy, fast, quick, and smooth if there are only 2 apps in the switcher. 3 or more (blurred app now) very sluggish and many frame drops. Increase contrast yields an awesome app switcher experience. I've reported this to Apple, they apparently don't give a damn anymore, it's good enough.

And I've seen the proactive search pane do weird things like that before. Not sure how to trigger or fix, it switches up and it's a little weird but it doesn't negatively impact much so I let it slide.

I love how you're one of the few people that actually understands why the lag occurs. <3

Also, the animations bug can be reproduced by using Assistive Touch. Won't appear immediately but it will at some point in 1st and 3rd party apps.
 
I love how you're one of the few people that actually understands why the lag occurs. <3

Also, the animations bug can be reproduced by using Assistive Touch. Won't appear immediately but it will at some point in 1st and 3rd party apps.
Yeah translucency+bad coding and unnecessary effects cause lag in every scenario that we see it now. Like the app switcher, it got better as they removed more and more effects for the adjacent app cards as you went in and out of the switcher. For example, you go into the first app in the list, the second, third, etc used to blur AND dim out as the app you selected came into the forefront. I reported that this was probably causing issues in 9.1, so they removed the blur effect while exiting/entering the switcher in 9.2. Animations jumped from 10fps to about 20-30 on my mini 2. Then in 9.2 there was still a dimming effect, reported that, it got removed, now it's almost a 60FPS app switcher, just has hiccups when there's a blurred app in the background.

It might have to do with how the blurred app sort of zooms and grows as the animation plays out. If it just sat still it probably wouldn't be causing such issues. But yeah, the unnecessary stuff that's causing issues really annoys me. I love the translucency, but use it tastefully. That app blurring looks pretty cool but I think it's causing more issues than it should for it to be worth it.

Also I'll have assistive touch enabled to see if the broken animations happen to me, I'm genuinely curious lol.
 
Very solid on iPhone 6s so far, although the annoying issue where the animations break by Assistive Touch is still present.

No visible lag anywhere, speed seems about the same all throughout. The app switcher sometimes jitters a bit sometimes though (present for a while, not beta exclusive).

Battery life seems the same so far.
[doublepost=1456883011][/doublepost]Uh, should there be three rows of suggested apps?

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That extra row (in the case of your screenshot, iBooks) is seperate from the two rows of suggested apps. (You can see by the dividing line between it and the normal two rows.)

It's part of Proactive. I've seen it suggest Reminders after adding something to a list (like a shopping list) via Siri or whatever. I've also personally seen iBooks after looking through half a PDF, it suggested iBooks to continue/finish reading the PDF I had "half read".

Not sure of all the apps capable of doing it, but its independent of the normal two rows and is not a bug.
 
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What are the chances this is the last beta release before we see the finished 9.3 iOS?

50/50 I'd say.

There are still three weeks till the event. So there is still time for one more.

Could be possible to see a beta 6 between now and then. Could be possible beta 5 is the last beta and the release will be a new build from beta 5 (which usually is the case, except in the case of 9.2 final beta was an identical build to what released.)
 
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This still isn't fixed after almost a year. Off center album and text for any artist in Apple Music that doesn't have an artist bio on iPad. I've had a bug report in for months. This is the kind of crap that is so damn sloppy and why the stories are being written about why so many little sloppy bugs add up to be a big deal.
 

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Landscape 3D Touch is now as smooth as portrait on my 6s Plus.

Edit: I take that back. Oddly enough it's buttery smooth sometimes and not others.
 
Landscape 3D Touch is now as smooth as portrait on my 6s Plus.

Edit: I take that back. Oddly enough it's buttery smooth sometimes and not others.
Likewise. Tested it out and it wasn't smooth. Locked then unlocked my phone in landscape and it was smooth after that.
 
This still isn't fixed after almost a year. Off center album and text for any artist in Apple Music that doesn't have an artist bio on iPad. I've had a bug report in for months. This is the kind of crap that is so damn sloppy and why the stories are being written about why so many little sloppy bugs add up to be a big deal.
Sloppy, that's certainly there. As far as it really mattering much outside of a small tiny minority, not really, which is likely what plays a big part in keeping things of that nature that are of low severity and priority from really getting addressed.
 
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