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Coupz

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Just because you guys have unlimited lte and unlimited data plans, that doesn't mean everyone else has it too. And a developer wants his app to be world wide, traffic is still limited in some countries.

Think before you ask for such things.
 
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Stickharuhi

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Just because you guys have unlimited lte and unlimited data plans, that doesn't mean everyone else has it too.
I know. See my old post here with suggestion. Apple can add for guys the unlimited LTE or big data plans. So button Limiting up to 500mb or 1GB.
 

HopefulHumanist

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I'm not sure what old post you're referring to, but you need to lobby apple, not us.

And the place to do that is ...

https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

Seriously, give it a shot. I use it all the time.
He said he's done so in the past, to no avail. Clearly, that means they've considered it but decided against it. I think it's time to just accept it?

I know. See my old post here with suggestion. Apple can add for guys the unlimited LTE or big data plans. So button Limiting up to 500mb or 1GB.
I don't see how Apple could know how much data each user is allowed; they don't have access to carrier information like that.

Your best bet is to ask for a soft limit, basically a warning but one that allows you to ignore it. I don't think they're likely to implement it though.
 

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I know. See my old post here with suggestion. Apple can add for guys the unlimited LTE or big data plans. So button Limiting up to 500mb or 1GB.
There is no logic behind Apple possibly adding such an option.
Practically no one (big data plan or not) is going to self-impose a limit, it does not make sense at all.

No. This is fact when you use unlimited LTE or big data plans.
Oh, so you are the kind of person that abuses unlimited data and clogs up the entire cell service for everyone?

App-trimming will greatly reduce app sizes through removal of unneeded assets. Logically speaking the type of apps that one is going to download in the middle of the streets and would need to use immediately will likely to be smaller than 100MB.
 

Stickharuhi

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There is no logic behind Apple possibly adding such an option.
Practically no one (big data plan or not) is going to self-impose a limit, it does not make sense at all.


Oh, so you are the kind of person that abuses unlimited data and clogs up the entire cell service for everyone?

App-trimming will greatly reduce app sizes through removal of unneeded assets. Logically speaking the type of apps that one is going to download in the middle of the streets and would need to use immediately will likely to be smaller than 100MB.
You are crazy? I have from T-Mobile unlimited LTE. This is not favorable per month. What is your problem? I pay this tariff.
Why no add this option? Google Play has so option. It give many games the have 150mb or 300mb. This is little.
 
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GreyOS

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Oh, so you are the kind of person that abuses unlimited data and clogs up the entire cell service for everyone?
Er, if networks sell unlimited or large data packages at a premium and aren't using that extra money to improve the network, it's not the consumer's fault.
 
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campyguy

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OP, I'm only chiming in with input and not being critical. I have a dev account and have been reading more than using the beta version of Xcode. I don't game but some of my apps, including the apps I deploy within my company are fairly large in size. And, I also have several legacy VZW accounts with UL data (so I don't care about DLs although I don't beat up that network.

One of the items that got my attention is one of iOS 9's new features - App Thinning and On-Demand Resources. It really makes sense to me as we have all different kinds of iOS devices in use. ArsTechnica's write up is excellent in its analysis and explanation, so, yes, iOS 9 will address some of the restrictions that devs, users, and carriers have had to deal with. The Ars post includes a link to Apple's own Dev page.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/0...ajor-boon-for-8gb-and-16gb-iphones-and-ipads/
 

Stickharuhi

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This is good features in iOS 9. But the popular games as Vainglory,Infinity Blade,GTA,Gangstar vegas etc...
Come never on 100mb size. This is illogical.

It give next problem iTunes Store movies. I think in future has iTunes Store 4K movies. And Full HD is already large.
 
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campyguy

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This is good features in iOS 9. But the popular games as Vainglory,Infinity Blade,GTA,Gangstar vegas etc...
Come never on 100mb size. This is illogical.
IMHO you didn't take the time to read the Ars post or Apple's own documentation - Apple will be optimizing DLs to specific devices, no action required by each dev as Apple will be addressing optimized app resources in the iTS - the optimization is not in place yet. Give it time, until Apple's optimization is in place.

Also FWIW, Google uses other optimizations for their larger apps, including JIT downloads - their Store has been set up this way for at least a couple of years. Take the time to search for what Dalvik does in the background - you'll DL a game, and only the basic resources are downloaded - when you'll get to new levels or add-ons, they're DLed in the background. So, Apple's really only playing catch-up here, but Google has had on-demand or JIT downloads in place for a few months and it's still a bit buggy.
 

Stickharuhi

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Nooo. The first download is important. Here must Apple add so options. Google Play has so options "Resume without Wifi".Or new limiting is by 2GB.
 

campyguy

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Nooo. The first download is important. Here must Apple add so options. Google Play has so options "Resume without Wifi".Or new limiting is by 2GB.
Sorry, you just aren't getting it. Again, you should read those articles - the iTS will download targeted resources all of the time, not just updates. Also, the Play Store's JIT engine has nothing to do with "wifi" or "cellular". I'm done here.
 

Stickharuhi

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No you say only from optimizations.

This method with the developer upload their app with only basic source in store. Later I open the app, then come so background download. This is not the subject. This is not in Store. All only external.

In this subject is I can not downloas App in App Store with big size. Or big update.The App-Store has now app size up to 4GB.

In Google Play Store I can download no limit Apps and Movies. This is not external.

Wait I mean complete Android system. No limit for unlimited LTE.
E.g for Google Play Store(Apps,Movies),System update(Android 5.0)
I said Google is good in details. The have this options(WiFi or Cellular).

Here new problem. iOS bug fixes update or new iOS version greater than 100mb. With unlimited LTE not possible. Because Apple no add so options as Google Android.
 
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Jinzen

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This is a big issue to only a handful of people in the world, because most other people have access to WiFi throughout their day and the slight delay to getting the latest app update doesn't really matter.
 

Stickharuhi

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This is a big issue to only a handful of people in the world, because most other people have access to WiFi throughout their day and the slight delay to getting the latest app update doesn't really matter.
Yes a big issue. Why handful? Many user have big plans.
 

HopefulHumanist

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Yeah, I don't see this being a problem for most people. Downloading games is hardly an emergency lol. If you need transit apps, apps to look at points of interest, etc. those are all under 100MB.
 

Stickharuhi

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And many user have WiFi.
It give countries in this world. The have cable connection. But LTE Technology is very good. I can use anywhere in my city or country. I am not dependent from home internet or wifi hotspot.
 

Stickharuhi

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Yeah, I don't see this being a problem for most people. Downloading games is hardly an emergency lol. If you need transit apps, apps to look at points of interest, etc. those are all under 100MB.
Apps,Movies,System updates are the problems here. The have mostly more than 100mb.
 

HopefulHumanist

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Apps,Movies,System updates are the problems here. The have mostly more than 100mb.
I think most people use wifi for those. Just stream Netflix/Amazon prime/YouTube if you are intent on watching video on mobile.

Again, any apps that you need in the moment are certain to be under 100MB.
 

Stickharuhi

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I think most people use wifi for those. Just stream Netflix/Amazon prime/YouTube if you are intent on watching video on mobile.

Again, any apps that you need in the moment are certain to be under 100MB.
Really? Noo. Take a survey at school. All teenager or student love this unlimited LTE. But is not favorable.

E.g the teenager love video upload for YouTube.
 
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