Sync your contacts with Google, or try an app like full contact. Same with calendars. Photos, I'm not sure, but can't you have a shared photo stream?
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You can add multiple iCloud accounts to your phone, you know. Just add the second iCloud account as a separate email account and choose to sync contacts and calendars. Sharing calendars is even easier, because with iCloud you can share individual calendars with another account. For sharing photos you can use iCloud Photo Sharing, it is specifically made for that purpose. You can share entire albums with it easily.
I recommend using two separate accounts and using family sharing with iTunes purchases, iCloud Photo Sharing for sharing pictures, calendar sharing for calendars and for the remaining contact syncing you can just add one iCloud account to the other phone and only enable contact syncing. That’s all.
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Since my previous reply was deleted for a fake reason (my "response was to a deleted post", obv not), I'll just say that given apples own policy of allowing multiple devices to share an Apple ID, and with the advent of family sharing, I find it a really hard sell to claim that sharing an ID is conceptually "piracy".
Regarding your bold statement above, Do you just mean the regular shared albums, or are you referring to iCloud photo library? I guess you must mean just the shared albums, since iCloud photo library doesn't work easily between iCloud accounts. I suppose that works for some people, but it entirely defeats the purpose of having a seamless experience within the family. It turns what should be an organic, automatic process into a tedious, manual, hunt and peck exercise. Completely opposite the proposed axiom of "it just works".
I don't feel that sharing an AppleID is piracy at all nor do I claim that it is. However if (not saying you in particular) you share purchases across users sharing the ID then it is.
For me the way Apple intends its use works amazingly. I can answer and receive text, iMessage and phone calls across my iPhone, iPad, and iMac. I can use handoff and continuity near flawlessly. FaceTime across all devices. Contacts, calendar, reminders, notes all syncing perfectly without hassle. Safari tabs are available across all my devices. Pages, numbers, books, find my friends, etc, etc even iMovie works well this way too. Even things I rarely use like Game Center works well for MY scores.
The ecosystem is what keeps many Apple users using Apple products. Without it many of us would just move to competitor devices. Apple knows this and that's why it continually gets harder for people sharing an AppleID like you mentioned but easier and better for those that use it as intended.
The only reason I would want to share an AppleID is to share purchases (again not saying you). However for the reasons listed above, the cost of an app is no where near the expense of the inconveniences you experience.
I admit that iCloud Photo Sharing is not an ideal solution if you want to share all your pictures automatically. However, how often does that case really arise? Do you really want to share every single picture you take? Even if it’s just a trivial snapshot you take during the day? It’s so easy to share entire moments or individual pictures. The alternative is that you indeed share your entire account and use iCloud Photo Library.
It is not piracy, but I suppose it is against their terms of use. But who cares about those, it’s not like Apple will ever find out.
That's true but you'll find most people don't want to share every single photo they take nor do they want other to have the ability to permanently delete their photos.
Do you honest WANT every single photo on your phone on your wife's phone? I'm not even talking shady stuff but just normal pictures you find on anyone's phone...a screenshot from Pandora to remember a song name and title...why would I want to annoy my entire family with crap like that.
I'm looking through my photos and the last 30 pictures are of bathroom sinks, toilets, tile etc as I prepare to remodel a bathroom. I'd hardly call forcing those onto my family's phones and iPads and telling them to make sure they don't delete them an organic experience...
I took the plunge with the separate Apple IDs. Not to bad to setup. The only thing that sucks is the lack of sharing of the photo stream. My work around is that we share a photo album between our two log ins on our macbook, and when logged into my account on the macbook, my photo stream adds to the photo album. Then when my wife logs into her account on the macbook, her photo stream adds into the same photo album.
I agree the ecosystem is nice and the convenience keeps us in the walled garden. I used to run windows mobile back before android was a feasible option and whole it was fun to root and hack, I got tired of it after a while. Apple generally just does it easier and back then it was the only capacitive game in town.
However, Apple has for a long time and mostly still worked great as you describe as long as that person exists unattached to anyone else and walled off. As soon as you start wanting to integrate someone else into the chain, it just becomes complicated and unwieldy. It seems like it should work on the surface, but then you begin to run into little things that keep piling up until you realize that precisely the way you want to mesh with someone else isn't really supported. Frustrating but the devil is in the details.
Crappy answer. They may have gotten moderately better, but sharing content amongst a family blows. And the gimped, jacked up family sharing isn't the answer for everyone.
I lot of us do this and don't appreciate Apple yet again telling us we are using it wrong. If enough of your customers are doing this, then you designed it wrong. Which isn't surprising since Apple has traditionally until very recently pretended families didn't exist and that everyone just exists singly drifting along attached to nothing.
It was bad enough when they made our phones ring with each other's phone calls on wifi with that continuity/handoff update.
Edit: This may actually be a handoff thing and not iOS 9? If so we just turned off handoff.
Give each user a separate account. Then use the main account to sign into home sharing and App Store. Still works better than family sharing.
I'm willing to admit I may be in the minority here, but yeah that's exactly what we need. All photos pushed automatically. With only two adults and kids too young to mess it up, that's what works for us. We don't typically take a lot of nonsense or work pics and we really bank on the convenience of pushing all the photos to a main repository.
I travel internationally quite a bit for work and it's awesome to be able to take a bunch of travel pics and have them auto upload so wife can see them and follow along. Lets her sort through the best and make prints and effects that I don't have time to mess with or even pick out which pictures.
It's never been an issue for us and every time I think about trying to firewall us into diff accounts, wife wants nothing to do with it. Plus I can't fathom the rational behind laying out for a TB of iCloud storage as I have for full iCloud Photo Library storage of my iPhoto and then having to deal with a separate bucket for her. Seems idiotic. They way they firewall iCloud storage even for family members is just another reminder Apple doesn't get families.
Almost like Family sharing was developed by people that didn't actually have families and couldn't conceive of how they would want to operate. More like a loose arrangent of completely independent people instead of an actual family that really does want to share everything.
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Same thing. Make 2 new Apple ID accounts. One for you one for your wife. Setup all the iCloud features with the separate ones, then sign into the App Store, and home sharing the with the old one on both.
U can also share certain other services by adding other accounts as well. As long as each user has a unique main account, you will find that you will avoid all the synching issues.. Only downside I have seen is having to maintain 2 photo libraries and use find my friends instead of find my iPhone to locate you're missing wife.
And you can create a shared photostream and then you can still enjoy that private family only photo access... And it won't be filled with screenshots...
The advice shared here still holds true:http://getmegeeky.com/2013/04/solve...with-multiple-apple-ids-across-apple-devices/
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But this shared photostream is manually selected one by one or automatic push? We just don't want to mess with having to select each photo. We eventually just won't keep it up and we'll lose that photo sharing component. Plus there are lots of photos my wife finds and uses I would have never thought to push. We take a ton of photos. Anything except automatic isn't practical.
See my previous post in here with the link to the lounge article on issues with the whole sharing thing. Your article has a few caveats that are deal breakers for us.
I'm a pretty difficult customer lol.
You could setup a third party automatic camera roll upload. Dropbox, Flickr and plex all support automatic upload of all pictures taken and are not tied to an Apple ID...
That is such a good idea that I'm already doing four of those lol. Flickr, Google photos, Amazon, One Drive, and not to mention crash plan and time machine as backups. Plus the rotating offsite hard copy of iPhoto.
Can you tell I like redundancy? I haven't really found them to be as quick and seamless (and understandable for the wife) as my current method, but I def like them for backups.
Well my friend, I have run out of ideas! For what is worth I was in the exact same situation with my les technical wife... And since we bit the bullet and activated separate apple IDs as I have recommended above life is so much easier... I even created a shared photostream called family and invited all the kids and in laws, now we have 1 huge family photo album that all contribute to and can enjoy... Tr;dl I have been in your shoes and made the switch and haven't looked back...
FWIW we do have many shared photostreams we use with extended family members, and the effect of that experience has been to completely turn us off to using one as our main repository.
I have the same problem, but different use case. I don't share my Apple ID. I have two phones and I don't want a combined call log (I want each phone to host their own unique logs). So I have your problem that call logs are shared across devices. Two Apple IDs is non-starter for me.
I found there are 4 things that use Apple ID:
- iCloud
- App and iTunes Stores
- Messages
- FaceTime
Not sure if others experience similarly. In previous versions I could have FaceTime logged into multiple phones with the same Apple ID and I would just choose different Reached At and Caller ID, and call logs were not shared. Now I only lack FaceTime and some of the continuity functions on the second phone and I can live with that for now.
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It is a little frustrating. As they describe the continuity and hand off concepts, they seem really neat in theory. But they assume someone is separate and apart from anyone else with their own computer and devices.
Sharing a family computer and wanting to interact as a family seem to basically kill these concepts dead cold.
The bigger question I suppose is how do you deal with a singular iCloud Photo Library with a family of device users.
That seems woefully unaddressed.
If you share contacts, calendars, etc. via iCloud, parties who share must use the same iCloud address.
In such case, under iOS9 (was ok under iOS8), iPhones using using the same iCloud address will show all incoming and outgoing calls under the 'recent' folder. Even if different AppleID is used for iMessage, FaceTime and Continuity related features are turned off, all calls will continue to show-up on the iPhones.
This is a HORRIFIC overlook by Apple with the introduction of iOS9 and it MUST be corrected ASAP.
Please everyone who shares real-time contacts, calendars, etc. (via same iCloud address) with their family, co-workers, etc., contact Apple letting them know such fault must be fixed NOW!
Thanks for your assistance,
In such case, under iOS9 (was ok under iOS8), iPhones using using the same iCloud address will show all incoming and outgoing calls under the 'recent' folder. Even if different AppleID is used for iMessage, FaceTime and Continuity related features are turned off, all calls will continue to show-up on the iPhones.
This is a HORRIFIC overlook by Apple with the introduction of iOS9 and it MUST be corrected ASAP.
Please everyone who shares real-time contacts, calendars, etc. (via same iCloud address) with their family, co-workers, etc., contact Apple letting them know such fault must be fixed NOW!
Thanks for your assistance,
