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Which has a better UI?

  • iOS

    Votes: 57 55.3%
  • Windows Phone

    Votes: 46 44.7%

  • Total voters
    103

Blackberryroid

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When was the last time you were standing and clapping really hard while watching the introduction of the next iOS? Mine was iOS 4.

iOS is boring. Why is it boring? Because the UI looks the same. An average complainer would demand a major UI redesign.

But why does it look the same? Because there is no way to change it. The only way I'd change iOS's home screen would be replacing it to look like Windows Phone. But Apple would never do that.

Think about it. If you we're to change the home screen, how will you do it? If you think of anything that isn't a grid of icons, it would be hard to use.

Apple's UI is already the perfect UI. And sadly, this might be the only UI we'll be seeing in a few hundred years.
 
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X5-599

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Oct 28, 2012
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@Blackberryroid

So what you're saying is, iOS is boring because its perfect UI won't be changed in the future :confused:
 

Blackberryroid

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Just what we need, yet another 'iOS is boring' thread.

Why, thank you. I'm happy to be giving you what you need. /s

@Blackberryroid

So what you're saying is, iOS is boring because its perfect UI won't be changed in the future :confused:

Yeah. There is no simpler way to change it's UI. Think of it. Designing a UI isn't easy, you have to think of the user.
 

Beeplance

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Jul 29, 2012
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I've already reached a state of acceptance about this. We need to move on from this. Besides, there's already a similar thread a few threads down, why start a new one?
 

MonkeySee....

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Sep 24, 2010
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If windows phone is anything like Windows 8 on PC I'd stay clear of it.

iOS may be boring for some but I like it and its simplicity is great.
 

sensorian

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Sep 18, 2012
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I don't think Apple engineers consider users Attention Deficit Disorders and constant need for brand new shiny things every day as part of their product roadmapping.

Gradual evolution and stability win out every day for me versus radical redesign and gimmick.

I almost feel that Apple go too far too quickly sometimes.
 

JaySoul

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Jan 30, 2008
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This is nonsense.

Yes, the simplicity is genius and timeless, but that doesn't mean it won't stop evolving. It's just that Apple have become cautious, and they rarely let users customise anything.

They just need to add a couple of customisable options, and everyone would be happy/shut up.
 

slimbek

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Feb 23, 2011
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I don't expect a total redesign. I can't imagine Apple alienating so many 100's of millions of users for the sake of UI change.

What they can do is incremental improvements and UI evolution.
Remove the white gloss on icons, simplify gradients, tone down the excessive skeumorph etc., add in some more live-tiles (weather/clock), and then they can get their act together and bring in some software innovation:
- Apps talking to each other
- Apps talking to Siri
- Enhanced NFC
- Update iLife and iWork apps

There are things they can do - but I agree. iOS is the post-pc/mobile OS for Apple. It's foundations have been made, now it is in polish mode.

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It would also help if the tech media stopped making out like the next iOS will change the planet.

iOS updates are simply service packs. Nobody gets that excited over a Windows service pack.
 

Beeplance

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[/COLOR]It would also help if the tech media stopped making out like the next iOS will change the planet.

iOS updates are simply service packs. Nobody gets that excited over a Windows service pack.

This. Many people tend to make a big fuss of it. At the end of the day, there's always people who are unhappy with things like this. Like MonkeySee... , I'm fine with the simplicity of iOS as well, it's good the way it is. Largely thanks to Ex-SVP of iOS Scott Forstall of course, a man who people cannot cease blaming for every minor thing in the operating system.
 

hyteckit

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Jul 29, 2007
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No wonder why there are so many divorces.

You found the perfect woman.

Then 2 years later, you find her boring because she hasn't change much from being the woman you fell in love with.
 

r2shyyou

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Oct 3, 2010
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No wonder why there are so many divorces.

You found the perfect woman.

Then 2 years later, you find her boring because she hasn't change much from being the woman you fell in love with.

Perfect analogy, hyteckit.

Blackberryroid: if you consider the iOS UI already "perfect," then in what way is it sad that it'll remain essentially the same? Anything other than perfection would be worse, right?

Personally, I don't think it's perfect but I like it, for the most part, and am excited to see what the future brings, though I'm jealous that I won't be around for the "few hundred years" that you'll be.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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Voted for Windows, I like that they are doing innovative things. I like the family account thing, I know Android does it better but iOS doesn't even have anything like it at all. Also the live tiles are very nice for quick information at a glance, which is what a cell phone is all about to me at least. iOS was cool 2 or 3 years ago, but they have moved from becoming the agile young athlete to being a stodgy old man with a smelly cigar.
 

BFizzzle

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May 31, 2010
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Voted for Windows, I like that they are doing innovative things. I like the family account thing, I know Android does it better but iOS doesn't even have anything like it at all. Also the live tiles are very nice for quick information at a glance, which is what a cell phone is all about to me at least. iOS was cool 2 or 3 years ago, but they have moved from becoming the agile young athlete to being a stodgy old man with a smelly cigar.

same here.. I love my iphone but i really like how clean/simple.. yet customizable windows is. I got to play with some at the microsoft store finally and i was surprised how smooth the UI was..on higher end phones of course..but that is on any OS. iOS..Android etc.
 

teknikal90

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Jan 28, 2008
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No wonder why there are so many divorces.

You found the perfect woman.

Then 2 years later, you find her boring because she hasn't change much from being the woman you fell in love with.

No wonder there are so many divorces.

You compare your woman to inanimate mass produced objects that were designed to be obsolete in less than a few years.
 

F123D

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Sep 16, 2008
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iOS can change without losing the wall of icons. Just look at whats being done with jailbroken iPhones. Notification center is being used to its full potential. The swipe left search page is being used to it's potential. There are ways to freshen up iOS without doing a complete overhaul.
 

beyondthepale35

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Oct 26, 2012
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Definitely prefer Windows, think its way more intuitive and just as easy to use as iOS once you spend a little time with it. Ive never liked the way iOS works, takes me a lot longer to do simple things on. If it werent for the app divide I think WP8 blows away iOS, especially on the integration front.
 

Carouser

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Feb 1, 2010
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They just need to add a couple of customisable options, and everyone would be happy/shut up.

No they wouldn't be happy, and they certainly wouldn't shut up. Are you new here? If Apple hits the goal X, people complain that Apple didn't do X+1.

There are ways to freshen up iOS without doing a complete overhaul.

So? Unless it's a complete overhaul the endless complaints of 'it's boring' and 'it's not innovative, waah' will continue.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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No they wouldn't be happy, and they certainly wouldn't shut up. Are you new here? If Apple hits the goal X, people complain that Apple didn't do X+1.



So? Unless it's a complete overhaul the endless complaints of 'it's boring' and 'it's not innovative, waah' will continue.

Meh, you seem to complain about people complaining a lot, I don't think that will change lol. :rolleyes:
 

Rodster

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May 15, 2007
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I agree with the OP. I remember coming from OS Classic to OSX. That was a fun ride and was just so fresh. And 10+ years later it basically looks the same.

The problem Apple is facing is that they have made a reputation with fresh new ideas and it's customers always expect Apple to pull something cool and wow us. I do think iOS needs a OS refresh or redesign because the competition is doing some cool stuff with their mobile OS that Apple hasn't implemented in their OS design.

It's like that SG III commercial where the guy standing in line says, "and this year they're putting the headphone jack on the bottom". That commercial is hilarious.
 

Carouser

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Feb 1, 2010
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Meh, you seem to complain about people complaining a lot, I don't think that will change lol. :rolleyes:

It was an observation about how it's impossible to satisfy moving goalposts, and that one is deceived if they think any particular or even general changes to iOS would reduce the amount of complaining that happens when Apple releases software or hardware updates. Some people have standards or desires that Apple can meet, but the bulk of complaints about iOS being boring which I have read, on the other hand, strike me as rather weak and ultimately unsatisfiable. Do you have anything useful to add to this point? I thought I had expressed it succinctly and wouldn't have to elaborate, but hope springs eternal, as they say. At least you got that awesome zinger in there, you do have that to be proud of - I'll even upvote it for you. Very nicely done.
 

spinedoc77

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Jun 11, 2009
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It was an observation about how it's impossible to satisfy moving goalposts, and that one is deceived if they think any particular or even general changes to iOS would reduce the amount of complaining that happens when Apple releases software or hardware updates. Some people have standards or desires that Apple can meet, but the bulk of complaints about iOS being boring which I have read, on the other hand, strike me as rather weak and ultimately unsatisfiable. Do you have anything useful to add to this point? I thought I had expressed it succinctly and wouldn't have to elaborate, but hope springs eternal, as they say. At least you got that awesome zinger in there, you do have that to be proud of - I'll even upvote it for you. Very nicely done.

For all your flowery speech it was still a simple complaint lol, but don't take it personally I'm just having some fun with you. I think there are a LOT of valid complaints about iOS which are not simply based out of boredom. Multi window is one for example, I find it incredibly useful at times, even though it seems like such a small thing there is a reason "windows" caught on 20 or more years ago and is still running strong.

As for the zinger, my apologies, I just find it humorous when people rant and complain about others ranting and complaining. I've got a weird sense of humor.
 

Carouser

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Feb 1, 2010
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For all your flowery speech it was still a simple complaint lol, but don't take it personally I'm just having some fun with you. I think there are a LOT of valid complaints about iOS which are not simply based out of boredom. Multi window is one for example, I find it incredibly useful at times, even though it seems like such a small thing there is a reason "windows" caught on 20 or more years ago and is still running strong.

As for the zinger, my apologies, I just find it humorous when people rant and complain about others ranting and complaining. I've got a weird sense of humor.

I accept your apology for your superficial post.
 
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