iOS10: No longer able to dissociate Region format language from OS language

[lobbyist]

If you still need me to further explain my point, please let me know.

Looks like I still have the option in iOS 10 GM. Clean install a couple months ago.

 

[KoolAid-Drink]

macOS Sierra also removed the advanced regional settings, so unfortunately it's unlikely to be a bug

 

[Antoni Nygaard]

I get it now. I was just confused by the picture you provided because it was from iOS 9

 

[one more]

Yes, I have the same situation as the OP. The iPad's system language is set to English, region to France. In iOS 9 this resulted in a day of the week on the locked home screen, for example, being written in French. The calendar was also in French. Since updating to iOS 10 last night everything is in English. So for people in Denmark, Finland, etc., please check the language the day is written in on the locked home screen, as well as the months and days in your calendars.

 

[mipo]

Something has changed for sure. My time on home screen now showing 09:00 instead of the 9:00 which is correct in my country.

 

[_bm]

Fellow Montrealer here with same frustration. I started a thread in Apple's forums about this. I also filed a bug request about it, I encourage you to do so.

If bringing back the "General -> Language & Region -> Region Formats: Advanced" option is too complicated, simply adding a "Québec" or "French Canada" as a region with the appropriate date, number and currency settings (see below) would fix the issue.

English Canada / French Canada
Tuesday, September 13, 2016 / Mardi 13 septembre 2016
$1,234.56 / 1 234,56$
4,567.89 / 4 567,89
3:45 pm / 15:45

Right now, there is only one "Canada" choice in the list of regions and it follows the English Canada standards. There needs to be two regions, not one.

 

[lobbyist]

Yeah I contacted Apple Support on Twitter last night and they also suggested to file a bug report.

What's funny is, even you select a country whose official language is French (for example, France), the date format still remains in English.

I'm starting to wonder if that feature was simply dropped on purpose due to some new OS restrictions that couldn't be bypassed.

Fellow Montrealer here with same frustration. I started a thread in Apple's forums about this. I also filed a bug request about it, I encourage you to do so.

If bringing back the "General -> Language & Region -> Region Formats: Advanced" option is too complicated, simply adding a "Québec" or "French Canada" as a region with the appropriate date, number and currency settings (see below) would fix the issue.

English Canada / French Canada
Tuesday, September 13, 2016 / Mardi 13 septembre 2016
$1,234.56 / 1 234,56$
4,567.89 / 4 567,89
3:45 pm / 15:45

Right now, there is only one "Canada" choice in the list of regions and it follows the English Canada standards. There needs to be two regions, not one.

 

[_bm]

Just upgraded to macOS Sierra ... they screwed up the regional settings there as well

Need to file more bug requests about this: http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

 

[KALLT]

Just upgraded to macOS Sierra ... they screwed up the regional settings there as well

OS X has granular controls for date, time and currency. What is the problem there?

What happens when you change the language of your phone to Canadian French? Does the date format change as well?

 

[_bm]

OS X has granular controls for date, time and currency. What is the problem there?

What happens when you change the language of your phone to Canadian French? Does the date format change as well?

The granular controls don't make it possible to get months and days in French, neither does it allow to put the $ sign after the amount. See images for comparison:

The point is you used to be able to get the iPhone main language set to one language but put formatting of dates, numbers, currency and time in another language and you no longer can do that. I don't want the phone to be in French, I just want the formats to match my locale. This worked perfectly fine in both iOS and OS X until now.

EDIT: inline image keeps being broken even though it's fine in edit mode. I put it as an attachment.

 

[_bm]

Sadly still an issue in iOS 10.1 and macOS 10.12.1. For macOS, there is a workaround that let's you set DefaultLocale through command-line. See http://tidbits.com/article/16826 for details.

In my case, executing `defaults write NSGlobalDomain AppleLocale fr_CA` in the terminal and a restart resulted in all dates, times and numbers following French Canadian standards.

 

[KALLT]

I still don’t really understand the problem with respect to Sierra though. You can change the date and number formats individually. The only thing that is missing is the language-specific names of dates (janvier/January) and it makes sense for Apple to get rid of that.

I agree about iOS 10 though, because it lacks fine-grained controls for date and number formatting. I suspect Apple could take some of the criticism away by adding a format that is particular to Quebec.

 

[_bm]

I still don’t really understand the problem with respect to Sierra though. You can change the date and number formats individually. The only thing that is missing is the language-specific names of dates (janvier/January) and it makes sense for Apple to get rid of that.

I agree about iOS 10 though, because it lacks fine-grained controls for date and number formatting. I suspect Apple could take some of the criticism away by adding a format that is particular to Quebec.

The problem with Sierra is also how currency is formatted. There's no way to have it as "1 234,56 $", the best you can have is "$1 234,56".

Why would it "make sense" to get rid of putting dates in the language the user desires them to be? We're not talking about adding this option, we're talking about not removing it! Seen from someone used to these english format, it must sound like making a big deal out of a tiny detail. For anyone whose daily life happens in two languages, no longer being able to see things the way they should be is hugely annoying.

I didn't mind when these fine-grained settings weren't available back when my desktop was running RedHat 7 with gnome but from a commercial-grade OS in 2016, yes I do expect that kind of polish to be available.

 

[yellowscreen]

Am i crazy or this isn't happening to me?

 

[_bm]

Am i crazy or this isn't happening to me?

It probably doesn't if you have a region that matches the settings you want. Unfortunately, there is no "French Canada" or "Québec" option in the Regions menu.

 

[dario24]

I am a korean iphone user and I have the same issue!
Keeping language in korean, I used to set my region to japan because the calendar was shown in chinese letter(I prefer chinese in date) and the time was displayed as not 07:00 but 7:00 in the morning.
Now additional front 0 just annoys me I hope this issue be solved soon....

 

[_bm]

I am a korean iphone user and I have the same issue!
Keeping language in korean, I used to set my region to japan because the calendar was shown in chinese letter(I prefer chinese in date) and the time was displayed as not 07:00 but 7:00 in the morning.
Now additional front 0 just annoys me I hope this issue be solved soon....

Still not fixed in iOS 10.2