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BhaveshUK

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Good to see you @BhaveshUK! I have been using my iPad as my business machine for my Real Estate businesses since I got it last November, and true external monitor support is what I have been waiting for. It has some maturing to do but for the most part, I am happy with it.

Thank you! The drawings are from my son from when he was a little boy, up to the present. He is 20 now. He loves to draw, and I will take all the pictures he wants to draw for me. He is busy with college and work now, and unfortunately doesn't get to draw as much as he used to.🙁 I will tell him you appreciated his work.

Your iPad usage is an excellent example of the capabilities these devices have. External monitor support is something I have also wanted for years; unfortunately, being on the 2020 iPad Pro I won’t get the feature — not in a rush to replace this wonderful device though as it’s perfectly functional. Have you found Stage Manager and external monitor support have changed your iPad workflows significantly?

Keeping your sons drawings from such a young age around your work area is just amazing! It sounds like you have such a wonderful relationship with each other 😊 Hopefully he can pick drawing back up when there is more time because he is very talented.
 

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Your iPad usage is an excellent example of the capabilities these devices have. External monitor support is something I have also wanted for years; unfortunately, being on the 2020 iPad Pro I won’t get the feature — not in a rush to replace this wonderful device though as it’s perfectly functional. Have you found Stage Manager and external monitor support have changed your iPad workflows significantly?

Keeping your sons drawings from such a young age around your work area is just amazing! It sounds like you have such a wonderful relationship with each other 😊 Hopefully he can pick drawing back up when there is more time because he is very talented.
Thank you so much for the kind words. Matthew and I do have a great relationship for which I am very happy. I will share what you said with him.

Stage Manager with the external monitor support has changed my workflow a lot. Having the ability to have 5 sets of 4 apps open on either device is a game changer. I can group apps that I use together a lot, and just open the group I want to use. I can also be doing something totally different on the iPad from what I am doing on the monitor. I also find it easy to switch apps between the monitor and iPad when I need to, and to open new windows. I really don't understand all the hate that Stage Manager is getting. I mean, I am 62 and have used Macs and PC's for going on 40 years now, and for some reason iPadOS and stage manager is just something I get. I have really enjoyed using my iPad as my main device this past year, and it makes me feel good at my age, that I was able to pick the iPad up, and just run with it. It has upped the game tremendously. As you can see in my setup photo, I use the Magic Trackpad 2. I tried a mouse, a really nice mouse(Logitech MX Anywhere 2S), but it just didn't feel right to use with the iPad. The Magic Trackpad on the other hand, feels very natural and intuitive using with the iPad. I am thinking that it is because they are both touch devices, and the trackpad lets me use all the gestures I was used to (and more) on the MBP. Well, in any case I got a good mouse to use with my Mac Mini. I sure wish they would open Stage Manager up to the last 3 generations of iPad Pros and just let people decide for themselves if it works for them or not.
 
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Thanks for taking the time! It figures. I hope Apple will include this functionality at some point. Maybe after they get Stage Manager worked out a little more. I have absolutely no experience with Samsung tablets or Android, but I'd be interested in your take on Stage Manager as compared to Samsung Dex.
To be honest I find DEX superior to Stage Manager (although I don't have the beta so I haven't tested monitor support). On the iPad even OneUI is superior to it (let alone the regular split screen). As much as some people here like to hate on Android, Samsung has done a great job in terms of multitasking with both OneUI and Dex.
But harware-wise the iPad pro is a much better device. Much faster, especially for browsing, less reflective screen, better keyboard cover. And it has more pro apps, although most of the apps that I use (mainly from Google and Microsoft) as just as good on either...
 
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Thank you for sharing your views. If I wasn't so invested in the Apple ecosystem, I would love to have an Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra. I just like tech in general, and everything I've read and heard about the Tab S8 Ultra sounds like something I would probably really like. Unfortunately, I cannot justify the purchase just for my personal geeky tech desires. 😕🤓
 
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Thank you so much for the kind words. Matthew and I do have a great relationship for which I am very happy. I will share what you said with him.

Stage Manager with the external monitor support has changed my workflow a lot. Having the ability to have 5 sets of 4 apps open on either device is a game changer. I can group apps that I use together a lot, and just open the group I want to use. I can also be doing something totally different on the iPad from what I am doing on the monitor. I also find it easy to switch apps between the monitor and iPad when I need to, and to open new windows. I really don't understand all the hate that Stage Manager is getting. I mean, I am 62 and have used Macs and PC's for going on 40 years now, and for some reason iPadOS and stage manager is just something I get. I have really enjoyed using my iPad as my main device this past year, and it makes me feel good at my age, that I was able to pick the iPad up, and just run with it. It has upped the game tremendously. As you can see in my setup photo, I use the Magic Trackpad 2. I tried a mouse, a really nice mouse(Logitech MX Anywhere 2S), but it just didn't feel right to use with the iPad. The Magic Trackpad on the other hand, feels very natural and intuitive using with the iPad. I am thinking that it is because they are both touch devices, and the trackpad lets me use all the gestures I was used to (and more) on the MBP. Well, in any case I got a good mouse to use on my Mac Mini. I sure wish they would open Stage Manager up to the last 3 generations of iPad Pros and just let people decide for themselves if it works for them or not.

Hopefully I’ll be as on top of technology when I’m 62! My dad gets completely lost on anything that isn’t Windows. He couldn’t get onboard with the iPad, Mac or Chrome OS.

I appreciate you taking the time to give such a detailed response. Grouping apps together is a benefit I’ve noticed as well. Focus is something I’ve always admired about the iPad experience, and I’ve been using Stage Manager to create spaces for specific workflows. Will be exciting to see how external monitor support progresses. It’s really interesting to hear your feedback about a mouse vs. trackpad setup.

Regarding the hate for Stage Manager, I feel it’s the popular thing to do, especially for tech sites to garner views. Admittedly, during the first day, I was thrown back with Stage Manager on the Mac and iPad. But I’ve made a commitment to using it exclusively for a few weeks to gain proficiency with it before making any conclusions. I’m slowly finding new opportunities opening up which weren’t previously possible on iPad — editing my upcoming YouTube video has been the easiest ever, for example.
 
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Hopefully I’ll be as on top of technology when I’m 62! My dad gets completely lost on anything that isn’t Windows. He couldn’t get onboard with the iPad, Mac or Chrome OS.

I appreciate you taking the time to give such a detailed response. Grouping apps together is a benefit I’ve noticed as well. Focus is something I’ve always admired about the iPad experience, and I’ve been using Stage Manager to create spaces for specific workflows. Will be exciting to see how external monitor support progresses. It’s really interesting to hear your feedback about a mouse vs. trackpad setup.

Regarding the hate for Stage Manager, I feel it’s the popular thing to do, especially for tech sites to garner views. Admittedly, during the first day, I was thrown back with Stage Manager on the Mac and iPad. But I’ve made a commitment to using it exclusively for a few weeks to gain proficiency with it before making any conclusions. I’m slowly finding new opportunities opening up which weren’t previously possible on iPad — editing my upcoming YouTube video has been the easiest ever, for example.
You are a YouTuber? What kind of content do you make videos about. I would be interested in checking out your channel, if you don't mind directing me to it. BTW, my 85 year old mom is a wiz with her iPad 9th gen. I have to help her out now and then, but for an old lady that has never used traditional computers, she does really well. It is her 3rd iPad. She also has an iPhone SE. She is addicted to FaceBook and FB Messenger with friends and family.😄
 
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BhaveshUK

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You are a YouTuber? What kind of stuff do you make videos about. I would be interested in checking out your channel, if you don't mind directing me to it. BTW, my 85 year old mom is a wiz with her iPad 9th gen. I have to help her out now and then, but for an old lady that has never used traditional computers, she does really well. It is her 3rd iPad. She also has an iPhone SE. She is addicted to FaceBook and FB Messenger with friends and family.😄

My videos explore living a creative and simpler life. Linking my YouTube channel and website for your perusal 😊

Amazing that your 85-year old mom is a wiz with her iPad. I feel that’s what Steve Jobs wanted the iPad to be — a humane device that was accessible rather than intimidating. Warms my heart hearing she is able to interact with family and friends using Messenger. In her age group, many become isolated and this is a perfect example of the good technology can achieve in our communities.
 
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My videos explore living a creative and simpler life. Linking my YouTube channel and website for your perusal 😊

Amazing that your 85-year old mom is a wiz with her iPad. I feel that’s what Steve Jobs wanted the iPad to be — a humane device that was accessible rather than intimidating. Warms my heart hearing she is able to interact with family and friends using Messenger. In her age group, many become isolated and this is a perfect example of the good technology can achieve in our communities.
Thank you! I will check out your channel a little later this morning when I can sit down at my desk. I want to experience your content on a large screen while eating a peaceful breakfast. Looking forward to it. Hope you have a wonderful day. I'll share my thoughts with you on your website and channel in a pm.
 
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My videos explore living a creative and simpler life. Linking my YouTube channel and website for your perusal 😊

Amazing that your 85-year old mom is a wiz with her iPad. I feel that’s what Steve Jobs wanted the iPad to be — a humane device that was accessible rather than intimidating. Warms my heart hearing she is able to interact with family and friends using Messenger. In her age group, many become isolated and this is a perfect example of the good technology can achieve in our communities.

My Mom was using one in her 90's and playing with it myself is what encouraged me to dump my many Android tablets and switch to an iPad (Air 2 at the time). Later went the Samsung for an iPhone.
 

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In my humble opinion the iPad is not made to replace anything. Computers and laptops are still way more powerful but the iPad makes a nice change of pace for when you do internet stuff and some games when your away from a computer ect.
I agree - Apple is at risk of ruining the simplified tablet experience many of us like if they try to push too many more full fat laptop features on the platform. Instead make the rumoured 14/16 inch "iPads" into a new product category (iBook would be a great name IMO) sell them with the keyboard in the box and let them run this stripped down MacOS version & all Mac apps when docked, and iPadOS and relevant app versions when undocked. Apple's answer to a Surface style convertible. That frees up the rest of the iPad line to just be iPads!
 

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I agree - Apple is at risk of ruining the simplified tablet experience many of us like if they try to push too many more full fat laptop features on the platform.
I’m curious… How is Apple at risk of ruining the tablet experience?

You might be referring to Stage Manager and if that’s the case, it’s off by default. The user does not have to buy a keyboard or mouse to transform it to a laptop, these types of things are optional and that’s the versatility of the iPad. If you wanna use certain features to make the most out of the iPad… go for it.

Whereas if you wanna keep the simplified tablet experience you can still have that… so, I’m not sure how is it at risk of ruining the tablet experience.
 

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In my humble opinion the iPad is not made to replace anything. Computers and laptops are still way more powerful but the iPad makes a nice change of pace for when you do internet stuff and some games when you’re away from a computer ect.
For me, the iPad—even a Pro model with keyboard—is better suited as a complementary device rather than a replacement. I think that’s true for a lot of folks, but there are certainly those who can and do replace a laptop or other device.

Here’s a related thought: Apple of course has a story and business case for the iPads, same as every other product they sell. However, many people take this aspect way too ‘seriously.‘ For example, the number one question asked about iPad (Pros) the last few years is, ‘why isn’t Apple adding more software capability with this hardware?/why is it taking so long?/what’s the plan?’ At the end of the day…Apple just wants to sell hardware. The iPad narrative doesn’t need to be complete or make sense, so long as customers are still buying them. All of the posts on these forums, and from tech journalists as well, wondering if/when the new iPad still can replace their laptop, are asking a question Apple isn’t trying very hard to answer.
 

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I’m curious… How is Apple at risk of ruining the tablet experience?

You might be referring to Stage Manager and if that’s the case, it’s off by default. The user does not have to buy a keyboard or mouse to transform it to a laptop, these types of things are optional and that’s the versatility of the iPad. If you wanna use certain features to make the most out of the iPad… go for it.

Whereas if you wanna keep the simplified tablet experience you can still have that… so, I’m not sure how is it at risk of ruining the tablet experience.
Well this is why I said at risk of not already has done so, but whispers of 'MacOS lite' and too much complexity crammed into iPadOS would be detrimental IMO. Yes you can argue just keep it all turned off, but then you're paying for complexity you're not using. This stuff takes software engineer time to develop, implement and maintain, and funding for that ultimately comes from hardware sales. Hardware design being geared towards docked use (e.g. side mounted FID camera discouraging portrait usage, more intrusive connector cutouts like the surface, over slim bezels making handling difficult) would also be a shame.
 
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Well this is why I said at risk of not already has done so, but whispers of 'MacOS lite' and too much complexity crammed into iPadOS would be detrimental IMO. Yes you can argue just keep it all turned off, but then you're paying for complexity you're not using. This stuff takes software engineer time to develop, implement and maintain, and funding for that ultimately comes from hardware sales. Hardware design being geared towards docked use (e.g. side mounted FID camera discouraging portrait usage, more intrusive connector cutouts like the surface, over slim bezels making handling difficult) would also be a shame.
One could argue that the only people paying for the "extra complexity" and "advanced engineering", are the ones who buy the "Pro" models, and to a lesser extent the "Air" models and, have chosen to do so themselves. Apple is not putting the "advanced engineering" and "next level software" abilities into the entry level iPads, nor are they charging an extra premium for the base level models. One could also point out that the people who do pay a premium for the "Pro" models, could expect them to have "Pro" features and the ability to run "Pro" software, and rightly so. They could even expect to use their "Pro" iPad tablet computer as a laptop computer or a desktop computer with external keyboard and mouse or trackpad, if they feel so inclined. Apple is giving us the choice to have more, or less "complexity" at applicable price points. Heck, even in the "Pro" models, you can leave the "complexity" turned off and just have a premium priced, non complex, entertainment device, if that's what floats your boat. Seems as though Apple has left this decision up to the consumer already, and is in no danger of "ruining the simplified tablet experience" for anyone, unless they decide to do so themselves. Even if they decided to add a light version of Mac OS to the "Pro" iPads, which I doubt they will, I am guessing that would also come with an on/off switch, and left up to the consumer whether or not to use it.

Case in point. My 85 year old mother who has never used a traditional computer in her life, uses her iPad 9th gen with little to no difficulty. She handles surfing the web, emails, messages, and YouTube just fine with no problem. She's a freaking Facebook, Messenger, and FaceTime wiz, who just adores her iPad and iPhone SE. Now, if a little old lady with no traditional computer experience can do it.....Just sayin';)

Personally IMHO, I don't see the iPad in danger of being ruined in the least, as long as Apple continues to give us the choice of which iPad model we spend our money on, and what features we are able to turn on or off.
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Hello, I’m glad this thread is still going on, after all this years. 8 years since the first post, wow.

I’m here to post a message, a bit meta, about wether I should ask here my question, or open a new thread.

I have been using a 2018 iPad Pro for a long time. However, I’ve managed to sell it at a pretty good price, covering almost 70% of the cost of an M2 iPad Pro. So here I am, typing to you from my new M2 iPad Pro (it isn’t even on my signature).

However, after this purchase, I am starting to think if it would have been better to invest that money on an M2 MacBook Air. The eternal dilemma. The thing is, I would have preferred to wait until the M3 chip to get a new Mac.

I use a Mac, an unsupported mac mini (it will stay in Monterey forever). And I plan to renew it, as I’ve been used to the Mac mini + iPad Pro combo. So I will eventually get a new M3 Mac, yes.

However, due to prices rising in Europe, I’m starting to think if I could use just a MacBook for everything, and call it a day. I’m not sure. I use my iPad a lot outside my home, and the difference between carrying 1.200g of a MacBook Air, Vs the 750g of an iPad Pro + Smart Keyboard Folio, could be noticeable. If only Apple released a 12” MacBook… So I am not sure of what to do.

Would you keep the M2 and see how it goes with iPad OS 17? If the rumors of having a macOS styled iPadOS become true? Not that it could change my situation with the Mac, because I would still need external App Store support, to download third party -notarized- software from outside the App Store. And that is definitely not coming to the iPad.

I can keep the M2 iPad Pro and see what happens during 2023, but this is a big investment and I’m not sure if I should just jump to the MacBook bandwagon.
 

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Hello, I’m glad this thread is still going on, after all this years. 8 years since the first post, wow.

I’m here to post a message, a bit meta, about wether I should ask here my question, or open a new thread.

I have been using a 2018 iPad Pro for a long time. However, I’ve managed to sell it at a pretty good price, covering almost 70% of the cost of an M2 iPad Pro. So here I am, typing to you from my new M2 iPad Pro (it isn’t even on my signature).

However, after this purchase, I am starting to think if it would have been better to invest that money on an M2 MacBook Air. The eternal dilemma. The thing is, I would have preferred to wait until the M3 chip to get a new Mac.

I use a Mac, an unsupported mac mini (it will stay in Monterey forever). And I plan to renew it, as I’ve been used to the Mac mini + iPad Pro combo. So I will eventually get a new M3 Mac, yes.

However, due to prices rising in Europe, I’m starting to think if I could use just a MacBook for everything, and call it a day. I’m not sure. I use my iPad a lot outside my home, and the difference between carrying 1.200g of a MacBook Air, Vs the 750g of an iPad Pro + Smart Keyboard Folio, could be noticeable. If only Apple released a 12” MacBook… So I am not sure of what to do.

Would you keep the M2 and see how it goes with iPad OS 17? If the rumors of having a macOS styled iPadOS become true? Not that it could change my situation with the Mac, because I would still need external App Store support, to download third party -notarized- software from outside the App Store. And that is definitely not coming to the iPad.

I can keep the M2 iPad Pro and see what happens during 2023, but this is a big investment and I’m not sure if I should just jump to the MacBook bandwagon.
With the European prices, I find the iPad a really tough sell. That’s coming from someone who has loved the iPad since iPad 2. But in this environment, I wouldn’t purchase one based on subjective value.

From what I’m hearing in your post, you need a Mac, and the MacBook Air is far better value for your workload.

A golden rule I’ve slowly learnt. Never buy a device in the hope of future software updates or features. You can’t wait on iPadOS 17/ 18/ 19 to make your current iPad work for you.
 

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With the European prices, I find the iPad a really tough sell. That’s coming from someone who has loved the iPad since iPad 2. But in this environment, I wouldn’t purchase one based on subjective value.

From what I’m hearing in your post, you need a Mac, and the MacBook Air is far better value for your workload.

A golden rule I’ve slowly learnt. Never buy a device in the hope of future software updates or features. You can’t wait on iPadOS 17/ 18/ 19 to make your current iPad work for you.
You’re absolutely right, and even in the case that iPadOS 17 turns out to be a macOS style operating system, the apps are going to still be limited to the App Store, which I don’t mind on a mobile device because of the security it provides, but limits the software I can run. Especially open source software.

Still, going to the work/study place carrying just 750g is a welcomed luxury. A luxury I have to weigh if it’s worth it.

I’m wondering if, in case I decide to keep the iPad, should I get the 128GB version or the 256GB.

In case of getting a MacBook I would go with 512/16 minimum, and that would rise the price by a lot. I don’t know.
 
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You’re absolutely right, and even in the case that iPadOS 17 turns out to be a macOS style operating system, the apps are going to still be limited to the App Store, which I don’t mind on a mobile device because of the security it provides, but limits the software I can run. Especially open source software.

Still, going to the work/study place carrying just 750g is a welcomed luxury. A luxury I have to weigh if it’s worth it.

I’m wondering if, in case I decide to keep the iPad, should I get the 128GB version or the 256GB.

In case of getting a MacBook I would go with 512/16 minimum, and that would rise the price by a lot. I don’t know.

I can understand the conundrum.

I’m also cautious about iPad updates because Apple have suggested they’re willing to block feature off artificially. This year, the initial plan was Stage Manager would be only M1 and above. The Apple Pencil hover feature is M2 only. If you keep this iPad, there’s no promise you’ll be getting all the features of future updates. It’s made me very wary about buying another iPad and I’ll be holding onto my 2020 version for as long as possible.

It’s a lot of money you’ll be spending, and I’d personally want my money to go the furthest, especially in this economy. For me, the MacBook Air 512/ 16 would be better value than the iPad Pro based on the fact it will do everything you want, whilst still offering a very portable solution.

How much is the price difference and how long would you plan to keep the device?
 

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Ok, I think I’ve made my mind, and I’ll keep the M2 iPad Pro. Mainly, because of the weight.

I just tried this iPad on my over the shoulder bag, which is 770g total, and then I added weigh (another iPad lol) until I reached the 1.200-1.300g of a MacBook Air. And it is noticeable. I spend many hours walking with my devices on my bag, and the difference is definitely noticeable -for me at least-. So, just for that alone, I’ll keep this iPad Pro. I could’ve chosen a less expensive iPad, right, but this is a long term purchase and I want to have Bluetooth 5.3

I can understand the conundrum.

I’m also cautious about iPad updates because Apple have suggested they’re willing to block feature off artificially. This year, the initial plan was Stage Manager would be only M1 and above. The Apple Pencil hover feature is M2 only. If you keep this iPad, there’s no promise you’ll be getting all the features of future updates. It’s made me very wary about buying another iPad and I’ll be holding onto my 2020 version for as long as possible.

It’s a lot of money you’ll be spending, and I’d personally want my money to go the furthest, especially in this economy. For me, the MacBook Air 512/ 16 would be better value than the iPad Pro based on the fact it will do everything you want, whilst still offering a very portable solution.

How much is the price difference and how long would you plan to keep the device?

The M2 iPad Pro, with the discounts I’ve managed to have, is 970€, plus the keyboard. The 512/16 MacBook Air is 2.099€, with the discounts it would be 1.800€ give or take. How long do I plan to keep the device? as long as I can, probably 10 years, wether it is the iPad or the MacBook. The MacBook will be more useful for me in the long run, that’s for sure, but until a new -lighter- 12” MacBook is released, I’m going with an M2 iPad Pro and probably an M3 or M4 Mac mini in the future.
 

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I’m also cautious about iPad updates because Apple have suggested they’re willing to block feature off artificially. This year, the initial plan was Stage Manager would be only M1 and above. The Apple Pencil hover feature is M2 only. If you keep this iPad, there’s no promise you’ll be getting all the features of future updates. It’s made me very wary about buying another iPad and I’ll be holding onto my 2020 version for as long as possible.

Hover apparently works on M1, but it requires the pencil to be extremely close to the screen, looks like 3 mm. I imagine it would be annoying having to hold the tip so close to the screen or else losing the cursor, so M2 should probably be a requirement (allows 12mm), but apparently it works on M1 too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/iPadPro/comments/yglhw0
 
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Ok, I think I’ve made my mind, and I’ll keep the M2 iPad Pro. Mainly, because of the weight.

I just tried this iPad on my over the shoulder bag, which is 770g total, and then I added weigh (another iPad lol) until I reached the 1.200-1.300g of a MacBook Air. And it is noticeable. I spend many hours walking with my devices on my bag, and the difference is definitely noticeable -for me at least-. So, just for that alone, I’ll keep this iPad Pro. I could’ve chosen a less expensive iPad, right, but this is a long term purchase and I want to have Bluetooth 5.3



The M2 iPad Pro, with the discounts I’ve managed to have, is 970€, plus the keyboard. The 512/16 MacBook Air is 2.099€, with the discounts it would be 1.800€ give or take. How long do I plan to keep the device? as long as I can, probably 10 years, wether it is the iPad or the MacBook. The MacBook will be more useful for me in the long run, that’s for sure, but until a new -lighter- 12” MacBook is released, I’m going with an M2 iPad Pro and probably an M3 or M4 Mac mini in the future.

Weight being such a priority, the discount, and the fact you’re keeping this device for the long-term, I think it’s a sensible choice. From your original post, you also have a Mac to do tasks which can’t be accomplished on your iPad.
 

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Weight being such a priority, the discount, and the fact you’re keeping this device for the long-term, I think it’s a sensible choice. From your original post, you also have a Mac to do tasks which can’t be accomplished on your iPad.
Yep, but it is an old Mac. I think that, if there was a 12” MacBook with an M3, I would instantly buy it. I’ll keep thinking about it, I think I could make do without an iPad for a whole year and see if Apple releases a 12” MacBook. Or, keep this M2 iPad Pro and sell it in a year or two, if the 12” MacBook is finally a reality.

Because, I don’t know, being here at my home I know I can use my old Mac mini if I need to, however, if I travel abroad for whatever reason, a MacBook will be much more useful. Honestly, I’m a bit confused lol.

I’ll try to think the things I cannot do on an iPad, and see if that would be a limiting factor while being abroad (if I need to travel in the next few years).
 
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