“If only they took the interaction model from the laptop, this could replace my laptop”
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iPad as a laptop replacement
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I think adding mouse support doesn’t have to take away from the iPad being a tablet. We wouldn’t use it all the time, just for certain tasks. If anything, it’s freeing because we don’t have to have certain peripherals with us all the time (keyboard, mouse, etc.).
With a laptop, you are stuck with a keyboard and mouse. With them as options for the iPad, you get to pick and choose.
As for a filing system, they could do it. It doesn’t have to be like macOS but it could be easier to manage.
And certain apps just need better features for iPad but that’s up to the software developers, not Apple.
With a laptop, you are stuck with a keyboard and mouse. With them as options for the iPad, you get to pick and choose.
As for a filing system, they could do it. It doesn’t have to be like macOS but it could be easier to manage.
And certain apps just need better features for iPad but that’s up to the software developers, not Apple.
The problem is the minute Apple enables mouse support, developers will think about optimising their app UX to cater for mouse support and that’s going to kill the easy of “finger friendly” UX that the iPad is made for. The thing is, UX is a very subjective thing.
Apple clearly wants to keep mobile and desktop as 2 separate platforms. With such a huge user base, such decisions will need to be carefully considered and just not do it because they “can”.
Well yes, things do need to be considered. I don’t know what people think when they think adding mouse support, but Apple wouldn’t be able to plop in a mouse and it looks the way it does on a desktop. That’s unrealistic. On the home screen, yeah it could look like it does on a desktop, but in an app, a mouse pointer being visible at every point of the app isn’t UX friendly nor is it appropriate for every app. I think if they added it mainly so that you can get a mouse pointer where you write text or where you draw, that could be enough. It’s not as simple as that but this is not about adding mouse support all willy-nilly. This is about taking it into consideration and then finding how it will function in a tablet environment.
It can’t be in the same way as a desktop. If I use Remote Desktop apps and I have mouse support in there as I would a regular desktop that’s one thing. But if I get it on my iPad outside of that, I expect the experience to be optimized for that.
They could even make it so that when you don’t have a mouse connected, you won’t ever see a mouse pointer. There’s no option to bring it up outside of a mouse connection.
It would bring up productivity on the iPad tremendously. The number of people who use it outside of consumption is growing. It will continue to grow. And we should at least test out the possibility.
I can’t say for sure but I’d presume Apple have considered all of these basic use cases while designing the UX for iOS.
I wouldn't. When they started iOS, they were starting something new. In the beginning, they probably thought about it, but then they didn't need to consider the 'what if' because they were trying to change how we use mobile technology. Now that technology has evolved and it functions way differently than it did in the beginning. It's easier to stick to certain things than to constantly design for increasing ways in how we use it. And it takes time to design features that will work in a way that doesn't compromise the system.
There are features we have now that they could have easily done before. But it would have been 150x more problematic than it was when they came out.
Mouse support is something we shouldn't count out and it's not something that we should think of in the traditional sense when wishing for this feature. I know many people do, but not everyone is tech-savy to think about if we did do this, how would it really be. They just want a feature they expect out of a device that is increasingly replacing their laptops and sometimes desktop computers.
We can't presume anything unless we work for Apple. We are only consumers. Apple can pull out any trick it wants despite what we have heard in the past or what makes sense to us. All we know is that they know how to keep us talking and obsessing over their products.
Yes, just as it works in Android where mouse support works just fine.
It is good for what it
I suspect that Apple does not want to turn this into a mac killer but instead make it better for more professional work when mobility is a priority and that being said bringing a mouse might kill e vibe of ultra-portability and trying to find a place to cram the mouse could be an adventure in itself. The pencil is sleeker and therefore is a better fit for pairing with the iPad.
The iPad Pro is not a laptop replacement. It’s just a big iPod with pencil support.
And you are also stuck with paid apps that are worse than free software you find on computers.
And you are also stuck with paid apps that are worse than free software you find on computers.
The IPP with ASK is replacing my MBP 15" on business trips where portability beats any other argument.
When working at office or at home I am using the MBP.
I can do almost everything on the IPP. However, not always as efficient as on the MBP.
Hence, I use both.
When working at office or at home I am using the MBP.
I can do almost everything on the IPP. However, not always as efficient as on the MBP.
Hence, I use both.
I did an overnight trip last week and was tempted to leave my work MBA at the office but took it anyway. As it was, I could have done it all on my IPP.
This would be an acceptable form of input to deal with the need for a Mouse interface as well. One of the more interesting ideas I've seen, but wondering if it would really work out well, unless when turned to track pad it stays alert but with a dark screen so it uses a lot less power.
As many have said, it entirely depends upon what you want and need to do with a portable computing platform.
I use my 2014 MacBook Pro and my iPad Air 2 mostly for personal stuff. I also have a 2010 27” iMac. Work is mostly on a Windows 10 laptop with a docking station and dual monitors, provided by my employer.
I say mostly because occasionally on a lengthy project I’d rather work in Excel in MacOS. Likewise with Word.
But lately I’ve come to the realization that I rarely use my MBP, at least for the past year, but use my iPad daily. My iMac takes care of the rest.
So in the interest of simplifying, yesterday I sent my MBP off to a company that purchases used Apple stuff. I could probably get a few bucks more by selling it myself, but the transaction costs (mostly the time and effort) given where I live would likely eat up those few bucks.
My intent is to see what new IPP models are announced at WWDC, or whenever Apple gets around to announcing them, then decide what to buy. My iPad Air 2 works just fine, but the IPP is appealing to me for a couple of reasons. The anticipated payment for my MBP will cover nearly all of the 10.5” IPP, including Smart Keyboard, case, pencil, and AppleCare. Then again, I’ll spend some time trying out the larger IPP before deciding.
The heavy lifting for my needs will be performed by my iMac, at home. But it’s a desktop, and your question was about being a laptop replacement.
Clearly, my expectation is that the IPP will replace the MBP for my purposes. My current IPA2 is, in my opinion, a stellar device for what I use it for. Buying an IPP may be strictly unnecessary, but as much as I use that platform, I believe it will be worth it.
Forgot to respond to the question of mouse support and file management. I don’t recall ever wishing my IP had a mouse. Files go to Dropbox.
Again, as for you or anyone else, it entirely depends on what you want and need to do with a portable computing platform.
For me my iPad mini 2 is a alternative to my desktop Pc. It will never really replace it though. There are something’s a big computer can do better than a tablet.
I use my MacBook only as a desktop these days, attached to an external monitor. My iPad Pro is effectively my only mobile device aside from my iPhone X. I do serious, high-dollar lawyer work on it. Have come to much prefer it to a mobile Mac, even if there are a few compromises. In some ways, the compromises are good — the less advanced multitasking equates to better focus. I’ll likely buy a new 27-inch iMac when they next update them and then go to an iMac/iPad model.
Have you actually used an iPad Pro? Have you seen the speed and specs of the processor? The iPad Pro is my main computing device away from my office. I approve contracts, develop complex presentations, and present from it using video and drawing graphs and symbols. The main apps I used, Keynote, Pages and Numbers are free, I didn't pay for them. I get Office 365 for free as well. The only app I paid for to use specifically for the iPad Pro is Good Notes, and it's well worth it, especially for extended note taking.
Agree with all of this. Plus most desktop apps such as Scrivener and Aeon Timeline have iOS companion apps that work brilliantly.
With Synology Nas i am one step closer to ditching my laptop....but first i need 2 things.
1) iOS12 to support multi-sound sources playing at the same time.
2) An elegant keyboard case that holds ipad in various positions so that i can use it like a laptop when i want to...
1) iOS12 to support multi-sound sources playing at the same time.
2) An elegant keyboard case that holds ipad in various positions so that i can use it like a laptop when i want to...
Last week my mac mini suddenly packed up and I had to get some spreadsheets done in a hurry , the only option I had was to use my iPad . I was dreading the experience
Fortunately things didn't go as badly as I had thought , iOS11 has improved the usefulness of the iOS devices dramatically with split screen etc etc
In the future In can see the iPad taking over completely from conventional computers. Apple seem to agree.
Fortunately things didn't go as badly as I had thought , iOS11 has improved the usefulness of the iOS devices dramatically with split screen etc etc
In the future In can see the iPad taking over completely from conventional computers. Apple seem to agree.
Next you’ll be telling us that the iPhone is a wast of money as it’s just an iPod with cellular connection.
Move on from 2012 and you’ll see there’s a great deal more to the iPad Pro than you believe...if you are using it as intended.
I think Apple will eventually head down this road one way or another.
I could see an iPad Pro with a Brydge Blu-tooth Keyboard having a mouse track pad for any text based work like Office 365 or similar. Apple would also need to introduce a way to access a proper file system either via cloud or internal etc.
It wouldn't replace Desktop Machines, but as long as files can easily be transferred from one to the other then we are heading down the right path.
I could see an iPad Pro with a Brydge Blu-tooth Keyboard having a mouse track pad for any text based work like Office 365 or similar. Apple would also need to introduce a way to access a proper file system either via cloud or internal etc.
It wouldn't replace Desktop Machines, but as long as files can easily be transferred from one to the other then we are heading down the right path.
How on Earth do you make presentations ie connect your iPad to a projector, from it???
With a lightning to AV Adaptopr. One of these does it nicely:
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Oh man, ok you are just ignorant.
I made keynote presentations in class on my iPad 1 (yes, the one that Steve Jobs held in his hand on stage). It was 8 years ago.
Same apply today (even better, obviously). Any iOS device can be used to make a presentation if you have the right adapter.