iPad doesn't have multitasking: means they aren't gonna do it for iPhone

[DavidLeblond]

I severely doubt iPad is coming with 4.0. 3.2 is just now in beta! What are they going to do, have us devs beta test it and then go "whoops, nah we aren't gonna release that one... here's 4.0!" Not gonna happen.

I don't think we'll see 4.0 any time soon.

 

[STEVESKI07]

Looks like Apple is trying to push me towards Android. The event yesterday was almost comical. "It is the most sophisticated device Apple has ever made." How? Did they have to use some extra glue to get the glass to stick to the bezel?

I read this article on The Onion before the media event and found it pretty funny, but it's even funnier now that it's almost correct.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up

 

[VenusianSky]

Looks like Apple is trying to push me towards Android. The event yesterday was almost comical. "It is the most sophisticated device Apple has ever made." How? Did they have to use some extra glue to get the glass to stick to the bezel?

I read this article on The Onion before the media event and found it pretty funny, but it's even funnier now that it's almost correct.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/frantic_steve_jobs_stays_up

That article was great. Someone here linked it yesterday right before the event.

 

[jaw04005]

I severely doubt iPad is coming with 4.0. 3.2 is just now in beta! What are they going to do, have us devs beta test it and then go "whoops, nah we aren't gonna release that one... here's 4.0!" Not gonna happen.

I don't think we'll see 4.0 any time soon.

We will see a preview of 4.0 before WWDC. Apple will adjust WWDC accordingly. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s held in July this year instead of June.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if 4.0 shipped later in the summer (2.0 shipped in July and 3.0 shipped in June) this time.

There’s no way the next revision of the iPhone ships with 3.2.x. Apple’s iPhone OS team is still on a “one major release” per year cycle.

 

[Darwing]

what a farce... honestly they had a chance to do something quite a bit more with this product instead they litterally made a large Iphone. There was so much more they could have done with it.

litterally multitasking is not a hard thing to do, as well as getting flash on there is essential to web browsing, I cannot believe they released it without flash!!! As well I thought the news paper idea was going to be stronger. have set news papers have a format that instead of getting 100 trees worth of paper to your door each week, you get it sent to your Ipad and you can pick it up like a paper and sweep through it like a news paper would get rid of the ways of news paper delivery etc.

there was a world of things they could have done with this and litterally made it a big iphone...

On the plus side, they only have to do one update for both Iphone and Ipad.

All in all I was really dissapointed, I dont think this was on the level of earth shattering news as the Iphone was... I dont see this taking off in all reality..

 

[The Phazer]

The iPad has to go through regulatory approval over the next few months. Like the iPhone, Apple didn’t want rumors sites like this spoiling their announcement.

Not this again. We've confirmed this before - the FCC will keep an approval confidential until the day of annoucement if asked. We didn't see the 3G or 3GS via the FCC either.

It's not an issue. Indeed, it's almost certainly already been through it's FCC certification.

Phazer

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

I don't get the obsession with multitasking?

I have an iphone and the existing apps that multitask are fine. I have never encountered a situation where I wished an additional app was "running."
The only example people yell about is Pandora, which I don't use. Heck my iphone is jailbroken and I can background, and I never use it the feature. Oh wait, one time I was using skype and I needed to background it, but it wasn't a big deal if it didn't work as compared the the heart attacks folks seem to have about running "OOOH PANDORA"

Can someone provide some real productivity gains for additional multitasking other than what is already that way on the iphone platform (phone, sms, ipod, etc)? One I can think of is VOIP apps so you can receive calls (i.e. skype), but again I have a PHONE so it's not such a huge loss.

i can give you 100 reasons why multitasking is important. A lot of people use pandora, and that alone is a big enough reason. I don't want to have to kill pandora to answer a text. Check the email i just got... why should i have to stop listening to music? Lets say i'm in cydia browsing some apps, then i want to search for something on google really quick before i download a particular item. Sucks having to close cydia, wait for safari to open, thn search, close, and rewait for cydia when i can have proswitcher do a couple swipes, google search, swipe 2 more times and be back at the same spot in cydia without having to wait for anything to reload.

hmm lets see... navigation apps, yeah i would still like to use my phones other apps just because tom tom is running.

people who use their phones for light doc creation and editing can get things done way more quickly and efficiently if they can easily switch apps between say a mobile office program, email, safari, and maybe the calendar app. Would be really annoying to have to save and exit docs2go just because i needed to check an apt time in my calendar app.

There are also countless times where i will be in an app like say NBA league pass watching some basketball games. I get a quick text, email whatever, i want to just background NBA LP for a few seconds, reply, and get back into it without having to reopen the app, allow it to use my location, wait for it to load, click the game i want, then wait some more for it to load that up. Backgrounding allows you to get stuff done much more quickly and efficiently.

Just because you don't see the need for it doesn't mean others don't. People use their phones very differently. I could tell you that without jb, i wouldn't want an iphone. Once you have all these features that should be there to begin with, it is quite hampering and much more difficult to be productive going back to an un jb iphone....

and i'm not sure why you would complain about having the option to multitask. If you don't ever use it, it's not like it affected you, and like you said in the one instance that it could have helped you why would you not have wanted it there?

Would you buy a laptop with a 20gb hard drive because you only have 15gb worth of data? No, you would plan for the future and have room to grow. Just because you wouldn't multitask now doesn't mean that in a few months when some new apps come out or you pick up a new hobby, or find yourself needing your phone for work, that you won't want to multitask then...

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

i just want to be able to have at least 2 background apps. like they have on the blackberrys. just let us have at least the choice of any 2. or something like that. i think background app is diff then multitasking

and why limit us? We should be able to background as many damn apps as we feel like. If i want to sacrifice performance and battery life to have 15 apps open for an hour or so, and then close them when i'm done with whatever i'm doing then i should damn well have that right! I shouldn't be restricted to what i can do on my phone because some old man thinks i only need to be doing 3 things at once instead of 5.

 

[Darwing]

This Site Says it all: http://gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad

Quoting Gizmodo.com"

Big, Ugly Bezel
Have you seen the bezel on this thing?! It's huge! I know you don't want to accidentally input a command when your thumb is holding it, but come on.

No Multitasking
This is a backbreaker. If this is supposed to be a replacement for netbooks, how can it possibly not have multitasking? Are you saying I can't listen to Pandora while writing a document? I can't have my Twitter app open at the same time as my browser? I can't have AIM open at the same time as my email? Are you kidding me? This alone guarantees that I will not buy this product.

No Cameras
No front facing camera is one thing. But no back facing camera either? Why the hell not? I can't imagine what the downside was for including at least one camera. Could this thing not handle video iChat?

Touch Keyboard
So much for Apple revolutionizing tablet inputs; this is the same big, ugly touchscreen keyboard we've seen on other tablets, and unless you're lying on the couch with your knees propping it up, it'll be awkward to use.

No HDMI Out
Want to watch those nice HD videos you downloaded from iTunes on your TV? Too damned bad! If you were truly loyal, you'd just buy an AppleTV already.

The Name iPad
Get ready for Maxi pad jokes, and lots of 'em!

No Flash
No Flash is annoying but not a dealbreaker on the iPhone and iPod Touch. On something that's supposed to be closer to a netbook or laptop? It will leave huge, gaping holes in websites. I hope you don't care about streaming video! God knows not many casual internet users do. Oh wait, nevermind, they all do.

Adapters, Adapters, Adapters
So much for those smooth lines. If you want to plug anything into this, such as a digital camera, you need all sorts of ugly adapters. You need an adapter for USB for god's sake.

Update: Why stop at 8? Here are more things we are discovering that suck about the iPad.

It's Not Widescreen
Widescreen movies look lousy on this thing thanks to its 4:3 screen, according to Blam, who checked out some of Star Trek on one. It's like owning a 4:3 TV all over again!

Doesn't Support T-Mobile 3G
Sure, it's "unlocked." But it won't work on T-Mobile, and it uses microSIMs that literally no one else uses.

A Closed App Ecosystem
The iPad only runs apps from the App Store. The same App Store that is notorious for banning apps for no real reason, such as Google Voice. Sure, netbooks might not have touchscreens, but you can install whatever software you'd like on them. Want to run a different browser on your iPad? Too bad!
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[BaldiMac]

Have you ever used a Palm Pre? Go to your local Best Buy or Sprint Store and use one. That is how multitasking should work on any phone, or possibly the iPad. It's a genius idea and Palm is getting totally overlooked on it because of all the insane Apple fanboys in this world bashing anything that's not Apple. I hope Palm and/or Google makes a device like the iPad so people can own a device that works like it should.

Which part of it is a "genius idea"? The part where it handles "multitasking" exactly the same way Apple implemented it in Mobile Safari?

 

[tahoeroscoe]

If there is no multitasking in the 4th gen iphone i will be a happy new nexus one owner come july.

been on the iphone and love it, but i am getting tired of apples restrictions and now they have some serious competition with andriod 2.1 and the new snapdragon processors.

We have choices now apple, wake up.

 

[str1f3]

If there is no multitasking in the 4th gen iphone i will be a happy new nexus one owner come july.

been on the iphone and love it, but i am getting tired of apples restrictions and now they have some serious competition with andriod 2.1 and the new snapdragon processors.

We have choices now apple, wake up.

I'm relatively confident that it will have it in 4.0. I would have been furious if the tablet was running 4.0 instead of 3.2 and not have multitasking.

At this point it is the most wanted feature on the iPhone. If Apple ignores this then people will start to move away.

 

[Etnies419]

I'm relatively confident that it will have it in 4.0. I would have been furious if the tablet was running 4.0 instead of 3.2 and not have multitasking.

At this point it is the most wanted feature on the iPhone. If Apple ignores this then people will start to move away.

Exactly. This is why I think the iPad is currently running 3.2. If Apple showed the iPad yesterday with Multitasking and a whole bunch of other things, people would be looking for more new features on the new iPhone. This will most likely be Apple's big selling point for the new iPhone. They don't want people complaining that "Well, it was already on the iPad, so they just ported it over easily. I want something completely new now."

 

[Eso]

Exactly. This is why I think the iPad is currently running 3.2. If Apple showed the iPad yesterday with Multitasking and a whole bunch of other things, people would be looking for more new features on the new iPhone. This will most likely be Apple's big selling point for the new iPhone. They don't want people complaining that "Well, it was already on the iPad, so they just ported it over easily. I want something completely new now."

Why would they annouce the device running the standard UI we have been using for years just to release the product with OS 4.0 and significantly change it up? That doesn't make any sense.

Furthermore, sensible multitasking would have to be handled differently on the iPad v. iPhone. On the iPad it makes sense to have multiple apps open in windows. The screen is large enough to accommodate them and consumers have been used to manipulating windows on computers for years. On the iPhone, a system like Pre's cards/safari windows make much more sense.

If anything, the release of the iPad and the obvious fact that they have spent all their time since 3.1 to rebuild native apps to fit the iPad simply convinces me that the UI of iPhone OS 4.0 will not change at all.

I guess when Apple announced the original iPhone and said the OS was "five years ahead of its time", they actually believed it.

 

[thetexan]

Exactly. This is why I think the iPad is currently running 3.2. If Apple showed the iPad yesterday with Multitasking and a whole bunch of other things, people would be looking for more new features on the new iPhone. This will most likely be Apple's big selling point for the new iPhone. They don't want people complaining that "Well, it was already on the iPad, so they just ported it over easily. I want something completely new now."

Wrong. Apple would be dumb to preview a device half-assed. Could you imagine if they demoed the iPhone unfinished?

Why dumb? Look at the bad press it's getting. People are going to associate this thing with negative opinions. My Facebook news feed yesterday and today had a lot of anti-iPad comments from friends who aren't very tech oriented. The debut is the moment it gets all the press and people form initial opinions that are very hard to sway from negative to positive. The press will never cover sequential updates like they will initial releases.

Apple isn't dumb. They are under no pressure from the market or the stockholders to demo an unfinished device. The iPad is designed exactly how Apple wanted it to be designed. If Apple wanted multitasking and flash support, it'd be there.

 

[rodericrinehart]

I want this thing as a personal media device, and to take notes on in college class (I have NO problem using virtual keyboards as I type with 1-2 fingers on a normal keyboard).

I need SIMPLE multitasking.

IE - iWork and Safari (we bring up pages to talk about while taking notes
IE - iWork and iBook reader - I MUST BE ABLE TO TAKE NOTES ON MY PDF's WHILE READING

Give me that, and I'll buy the 64GB WiFi one FOR SURE. I'm a PC guy, and I think this looks great. I've only played with an ipod touch and iphone, but im Verizon, and I love those things.

 

[Looon]

lol what do you really need multitasking for anyway? The only thing anyone ever brings up when they talk about multitasking is "so i can use pandora and xxx app" like it's really necessary

 

[bozzykid]

Clearly the iPad wouldn't ship with multitasking. They obviously forked the 3.1 iPhone code for it and hacked on a few minor features. My guess is the spent most of their development time getting the software to work with the new processor and to make the native apps fullscreen. If multitasking comes, it will not be before 4.0. Apple can't afford for the 4G phone to not have it considering the competition. My guess is the iPad will sync up with the iPhone software with the 4G iPhone release.

 

[xxBURT0Nxx]

lol what do you really need multitasking for anyway? The only thing anyone ever brings up when they talk about multitasking is "so i can use pandora and xxx app" like it's really necessary

i can give you 100 reasons why multitasking is important. A lot of people use pandora, and that alone is a big enough reason. I don't want to have to kill pandora to answer a text. Check the email i just got... why should i have to stop listening to music? Lets say i'm in cydia browsing some apps, then i want to search for something on google really quick before i download a particular item. Sucks having to close cydia, wait for safari to open, thn search, close, and rewait for cydia when i can have proswitcher do a couple swipes, google search, swipe 2 more times and be back at the same spot in cydia without having to wait for anything to reload.

hmm lets see... navigation apps, yeah i would still like to use my phones other apps just because tom tom is running.

people who use their phones for light doc creation and editing can get things done way more quickly and efficiently if they can easily switch apps between say a mobile office program, email, safari, and maybe the calendar app. Would be really annoying to have to save and exit docs2go just because i needed to check an apt time in my calendar app.

There are also countless times where i will be in an app like say NBA league pass watching some basketball games. I get a quick text, email whatever, i want to just background NBA LP for a few seconds, reply, and get back into it without having to reopen the app, allow it to use my location, wait for it to load, click the game i want, then wait some more for it to load that up. Backgrounding allows you to get stuff done much more quickly and efficiently.

Just because you don't see the need for it doesn't mean others don't. People use their phones very differently. I could tell you that without jb, i wouldn't want an iphone. Once you have all these features that should be there to begin with, it is quite hampering and much more difficult to be productive going back to an un jb iphone....