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Royksöpp

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Return the iPad Pro and get a MacBook Air and iPad Air. The M1 in the MBA is fast. You won't be missing out on much by waiting until next year. If push came to shove I could live with a lower end iPad as long as I had a Mac. As time goes on an iPad will eventually hit many roadblocks that you will not be able to work around. It's not worth the stress. Both Air's are always on sale so you won't be breaking the bank. If both devices are not an option at the moment then you could always save up and get an iPad later. The Mac is not negotiable you absolutely need one.
 

Digitalguy

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I’d rather wait for the colored macs!
Many people here have not understood that you are referring to the redesigned M2 Macbooks leaks by Jon Prosser....
However, they are supposed to be announced some time in the first half of 2022. What are you going to use in the meantime?
 

yabeweb

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Hello everyone!

I want to share some thoughts about my recently purchased ipad pro with mini led:

It's awesome! I love the screen! First I had the iPad air (first one) then moved to mini but realized that I didn't use them quite often so I sold them (like 5 years ago).

My MBP 2014 is obsolete now(so apple says, and the battery expanded? Buffed?) So I thought about a laptop replacement... pulled the trigger and bought the 12.9 ipad pro.

I like it, I really do! But today I had to do some meetings and workflow and realized that it is "different" lil bit more complicated from what I'm used to.

So I ask for advice... Should I keep it or return it? I've seen videos about ipad os 15 and I think they are nice. But the upcoming colorful macs makes me skeptical.

or maybe I just need time to get used to…

Any comments will be really appreciated!
It took time for me to adapt to the new workflow, it's hard to tell you what to do not knowing what you use the iPad for.

I had to change software (use Affinity instead of Adobe), to rethink how I save stuff and organize it, but after a while it becomes natural.


My 2cents would be, depending on what you do with it, try to adapt to a new way of doing things, it won't be natural at first but rewarding in the longrun.

Don't try to use the iPad as you would a computer, it's not, but that's the beauty of it for me.

The Mac is not negotiable you absolutely need one.
Strong statement, true in some cases not in others, for some usage it is just a matter of getting used to a new workflow.

I am Macless and "computerless" and do all my work on iPad wich is not a computer.
 
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Digitalguy

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enjoy what you want, Live your best life. You dont need reassurance or justification from anyone here.

Personally the M1 chip and 8GB of RAM are wasted in the MiniLED iPad Pro because it lacks sufficient cooling to really push the chip. And by the time developers and Apple have iPad OS 16 ready with features the M1 can harness, the 3nm M2 or M3 chips will be ready.
performance is not much different from the fanless M1 Macbook air, the limiting factor is iPadOS and there is no guarantee that iPadOS 16 will make radical changes. For the M2 devices Apple will be using a 4nm process. 3nm is scheduled for the end of 2022... Some rumors say that the next iPad pro will be the first to get the 3nm SOC (supposedly called M3), but I am not really convinced, my guess it that it will stay on M2 and Macs will always get the new generation first.... But we'll see....
 

Mimiron

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If you're not satisfied just return it. Sure, it has a glorious screen and all, but for that price, you can get a MBP or MBA and it won't negatively impact your workflow. At the end of the day, an iPad won't suffice if you plan on doing some serious work on it and your workflow will become a nuisance.
iOS 15 doesn't need to be glorified either. The multitasking still can't be even remotely compared to macOS.
 
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yabeweb

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If you're not satisfied just return it. Sure, it has a glorious screen and all, but for that price, you can get a MBP or MBA and it won't negatively impact your workflow. At the end of the day, an iPad won't suffice if you plan on doing some serious work on it and your workflow will become a nuisance.
iOS 15 doesn't need to be glorified either. The multitasking still can't be even remotely compared to macOS.

It takes adaptation, but you can do some pretty serious work on it, if you stop trying to use it like Mac OS, iPad OS offers a lot, that does NOT mean iPad OS is flawless.

But I do my money using only an iPad, so you can do some serious work ;) it just depends on your needs.

iPad is not a laptop replacement. iPad is a big screen iPhone. Get an M1 mac.
No it's not and it is not ment to be, but you can do lots of work on it.

And no it's not a huge iPhone either.
 

Ludatyk

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May 27, 2012
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Thanks. What I use the iPad for:
Google meet (deleted already cause the app is so bad as well as gmail), Zoom and the share screen function at the same time as keynote, pages or pdfs.
Will need to use numbers and copy information and pictures from the internet and scan some documents (which I think will be better thanks to the cameras) too.
I bought a keyboard and I’m waiting for the stand (I really don’t like the angle of the mk).
Tomorrow I will try the sharing screen actions… I think the experience is way different from the content consumption one.
Just as @yabeweb mention, you have to adapt to the iPad workflow. One thing I try to bestow on users who want to use the iPad as their primary computing device... work within the platform not against it.

I'm not gonna deny there is some limitation on iPadOS that you won't find on a laptop and there are cases when a laptop is most likely needed. But according to your workflow.... the iPad can handle it. And I'm not a fan of the MK as well, too expensive (for what it does) and no portrait view.


There is this stand I was fond of, but since I already had a stand... I converted into a MK-like stand. But I had a Magic Mouse 2 for about a year until I decided to go with the Magic Trackpad 2 instead. With a keyboard... Magic Trackpad 2, a decent stand. You will be set.
 

sracer

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Apr 9, 2010
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Hello everyone!

I want to share some thoughts about my recently purchased ipad pro with mini led:

It's awesome! I love the screen! First I had the iPad air (first one) then moved to mini but realized that I didn't use them quite often so I sold them (like 5 years ago).

My MBP 2014 is obsolete now(so apple says, and the battery expanded? Buffed?) So I thought about a laptop replacement... pulled the trigger and bought the 12.9 ipad pro.

I like it, I really do! But today I had to do some meetings and workflow and realized that it is "different" lil bit more complicated from what I'm used to.

So I ask for advice... Should I keep it or return it? I've seen videos about ipad os 15 and I think they are nice. But the upcoming colorful macs makes me skeptical.

or maybe I just need time to get used to…

Any comments will be really appreciated!
What were the differences in workflow between what you did on a Macbook and what you experienced with the iPad Pro?

Sometime the change to a different hardware/software solution requires taking a step back to "think different"... moving away from HOW you do things and examining WHAT you need to get done.

Contrary to what many will say, iPad OS and Mac OS are not interchangeable. Each have their strengths and weaknesses.

I have found in my experiences that while iPad OS makes some things easier to do than on a Mac OS device, it makes things more difficult for most other tasks.

Providing some specifics might help us figure out if there are easier ways to do things on iPad OS or things really are more convoluted.
 
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Goompa

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Many people here have not understood that you are referring to the redesigned M2 Macbooks leaks by Jon Prosser....
However, they are supposed to be announced some time in the first half of 2022. What are you going to use in the meantime?
Well, the other Mac still works, I thought about switching to an iPad.

It took time for me to adapt to the new workflow, it's hard to tell you what to do not knowing what you use the iPad for.

I had to change software (use Affinity instead of Adobe), to rethink how I save stuff and organize it, but after a while it becomes natural.


My 2cents would be, depending on what you do with it, try to adapt to a new way of doing things, it won't be natural at first but rewarding in the longrun.

Don't try to use the iPad as you would a computer, it's not, but that's the beauty of it for me.


Strong statement, true in some cases not in others, for some usage it is just a matter of getting used to a new workflow.

I am Macless and "computerless" and do all my work on iPad wich is not a computer.
Sounds very interesting. I will need to take a deep breathe and start changling the way I used to do things.

It takes adaptation, but you can do some pretty serious work on it, if you stop trying to use it like Mac OS, iPad OS offers a lot, that does NOT mean iPad OS is flawless.

But I do my money using only an iPad, so you can do some serious work ;) it just depends on your needs.


No it's not and it is not ment to be, but you can do lots of work on it.

And no it's not a huge iPhone either.
Used to be a bigger iPhone.
Well I plan to move all my workflow to the iPad xD
 
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yabeweb

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Well, the other Mac still works, I thought about switching to an iPad.


Sounds very interesting. I will need to take a deep breathe and start changling the way I used to do things.


Used to be a bigger iPhone.
Well I plan to move all my workflow to the iPad xD
I am not saying it worlks for everyone, but it can work and when it does it is amazing.

There were lots of times at the beginning where I reached for a computer because "i can do it faster there" and that stopped me from going full iPad.

Then I sold my computer, and I had to make it work, Affinity, Luma Fusion, PDF Expert / Scanner pro, Procreate, were all app I never used and now could not see myself working without them.

I started with the cheapest iPad, now running a 2021 Pro 12.9 inches, that was because I wanted to spend as little as possible to "try" and when I realized it could be done for me, I wen full blast and do not regret one bit.

I would love to see some iPad OS improvement especially in filesystem and multitasking, but that is most likely because I still see filesystem and multitasking "the old way".

It can be a tiring experience to change a workflow, but it can also be an extraordinary way to find new tools and may be find ways to do things better, all you need is commitment and patience.

Hope it works for you and that you are happy with whatever solution you end up with, at the end of the day it's a tool, so it has to work your way!
 

Isengardtom

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Best setup for me has always been iMac + iPad (pro/air), especially with the ability the iMac had to also run windows via bootcamp.

As an accountant I need to use more complex spreadsheets and the iPad versions of excel and numbers are too basic except for report viewing (Even the Mac version of Excel is lacking too many features in my opinion).

The iPad is great though for Planning, (Teams) meetings, note taking, mail, Sharepoint, viewing Power BI reports,signing documents,…I can even run my group consolidation on it if I really want to. And at home its the only computer you really need and (in my personal view) much more fun to use than a laptop.
(now I’m not a laptop lover and never will be so I’m biased here)

iPadOS 15 is a great update for many of these things I do. I use Quick Note to take small Notes during meetings and my camera stays on in MS Teams while I type in the notes. The new multitasking is also great where I can easily multitask with the split view between Mail + OneDrive and Office for example. It’s definitely a much stronger update than what you see on youtube where pro use basically is reduced to video editing.
 

Mimiron

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It takes adaptation, but you can do some pretty serious work on it, if you stop trying to use it like Mac OS, iPad OS offers a lot, that does NOT mean iPad OS is flawless.
I would never pay premium for having to adapt to something lackluster. I am a writer and the 12.9-inch iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard just sucks and can't be even remotely compared to a Mac Air. But sure, if you're drawing a lot and use it for consuming content I get why you would buy one, but for me and my work needs it just is far worse than a MBA with the same price tag.

Programming and GitHub are a pain in the ass on the iPad.
 

yabeweb

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If for you it’s lacklustre you are right, it’s not for everyone, adapting is called progress, if we all wanted the old workflow we would still be using black screen with green text on it.

The good thing about choices is that you can get the right tool for your needs.

if I were to write a lot, I would probably skip the 13 inches as well, it would be too little for me to feel comfortable typing all day.

Even final cut was rewritten and the workflow changed, people complained, but now it’s again one of the best software for video editing.
 
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Mimiron

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If for you it’s lacklustre you are right, it’s not for everyone, adapting is called progress, if we all wanted the old workflow we would still be using black screen with green text on it.

The good thing about choices is that you can get the right tool for your needs.

if I were to write a lot, I would probably skip the 13 inches as well, it would be too little for me to feel comfortable typing all day.

Even final cut was rewritten and the workflow changed, people complained, but now it’s again one of the best software for video editing.
I wouldn't call writing on a squished-down keyboard progress, but I get what you're trying to say.
 
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