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So for those that think a Mini with retina will not come out until the fall of 2013, what product is Apple going to release in the spring? Do you think that Apple is going to go a full year without releasing a portable device - laptop, phone, tablet? Even if they release a TV or Mac Pro those aren't products that will have people lining up to buy. They recently release the new iPhone, iPad 4 and Macbook Pro with retina.

I think releasing a Mini with retina will piss some people off, but I don't think they are going to charge the same price for it as for the Mini that was just released. I think it will be slightly less $$$ than the iPad 4 with similar specs.

Is it really smart for a company that who's stock price just went down 20% to stand pat for a year?

How could they charge less for a product that's much more expensive to create? If they didn't go $299.99 for the Mini with older specs they certainly won't for an updated model just a few months later. If anything I think the addition of Retina, A5X or A6X, and 1 GB RAM will increase the price if it doesn't stay the same.
 
How could they charge less for a product that's much more expensive to create? If they didn't go $299.99 for the Mini with older specs they certainly won't for an updated model just a few months later. If anything I think the addition of Retina, A5X or A6X, and 1 GB RAM will increase the price if it doesn't stay the same.
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tomegun said "I think it will be slightly less $$$ than the iPad 4...".
That could be a much as $499.98, ya think?
 
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tomegun said "I think it will be slightly less $$$ than the iPad 4...".
That could be a much as $499.98, ya think?

Thanks. I was reading to see if I made a typing mistake.

iPad - $$$
iPad Mini - $$
iPad Retina - $$$$$
iPad Mini Retina - $$$$

Remember, they already planted the seed deep in a quote. Someone (I don't forget who from Apple) said something along the lines of the iPad Mini isn't a lesser iPad, just an iPad that is smaller. Similarly, there is a configuration of a 13" retina MBP that costs the exact same ($2,199) as a 15" retina and the 15" has superior specs.

I will ask again, do people think Apple will go almost a year without releasing a mobile product like a laptop, phone or tablet? I wouldn't if I was them. I don't think consumers will be satisfied with a TV and Mac Pro as the only new products until next fall.
 
Thanks. I was reading to see if I made a typing mistake.

iPad - $$$
iPad Mini - $$
iPad Retina - $$$$$
iPad Mini Retina - $$$$

Remember, they already planted the seed deep in a quote. Someone (I don't forget who from Apple) said something along the lines of the iPad Mini isn't a lesser iPad, just an iPad that is smaller. Similarly, there is a configuration of a 13" retina MBP that costs the exact same ($2,199) as a 15" retina and the 15" has superior specs.

I will ask again, do people think Apple will go almost a year without releasing a mobile product like a laptop, phone or tablet? I wouldn't if I was them. I don't think consumers will be satisfied with a TV and Mac Pro as the only new products until next fall.

I've said this once, and i'll say it again, apple will refresh the ipad 4 with possilby no spec boost, just a redesign before summer. If apple does come out with AppleTV, that'd be HUGE, but I think their first step would be to relaunch their appletv lineup. They'll probably also refresh all the consumer notebook lines and I forsee a major update to an OS before the next back-to-school season
 
I've said this once, and i'll say it again, apple will refresh the ipad 4 with possilby no spec boost, just a redesign before summer. If apple does come out with AppleTV, that'd be HUGE, but I think their first step would be to relaunch their appletv lineup. They'll probably also refresh all the consumer notebook lines and I forsee a major update to an OS before the next back-to-school season

Yep, you have said it twice now, so please stop saying that ******** again...
 
what do you say the percent of people saying "it won't happen in the spring" own an ipad mini right now?

...i say 100%

Since we know the Retina Display isn't due for production till Q4 2013, the chances or a Spring update is 0% so your 100% would be accurate ;)

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So for those that think a Mini with retina will not come out until the fall of 2013, what product is Apple going to release in the spring?

It's not that we think, it's that we know from Apple's supplier the display wont be ready till Q3 2013 with production for Q4 2013.



I think in Spring they are going to go software big time.

iWork 13
iLife 13
Aperture 4
Final Cut Pro X.5

and of course the long overdue MacPro will be the hardware release.
 
I foresee Apple's stock taking an even bigger hit (as if it hasn't already) if they do not release any hot/attractive products in the Spring/Summer. Remember, Apple is a corporation and needs to satisfy not only its consumers but its shareholders as well. Going 2 quarters into 2013 without some "revolutionary" product will no doubt make their stock unattractive to the markets. An update to all their mobile devices (iPhone, iPad, iPad mini) this past fall will boost this quarters numbers no doubt, but sales only continue to trickle down from this point.

Updates to the Mac Pros, iMac, Macbooks, OSX software, etc. should be expected in Spring 2013 as the new Intel Haswell processors will be available. However all those products COMBINED do not even get close to iPhone/iPad sales and not everyone updates their computers year to year. Certainly not when their desktops/laptops cost a whole lot more than a $500 dollar iPad. Hottest products will still be the iPhone and iPad.

If I was in Apple's shoes, I would release the iPad Mini Retina before Summer 2013, but just sell it at a premium. Similar to how Apple sells the iPad 2 and the iPad 4 at different starting prices, the current iPad Mini can be sold alongside the iPad Mini Retina (with the Retina obviously commanding a greater price).

With the IGZO display technology, slightly thicker battery (similar to how the iPad 3/4 is thicker than the iPad 2) and perhaps the A5X processor with a die shrink, I'm sure they can create an iPad Mini Retina if they wanted to. Unfortunately I feel that this would also create what I felt my iPad 3 always was, a compromised device.

As witnessed with the iPad 3, Apple will push out a product simply to add Retina and satisfy consumer demands. The CPU power was no better than the iPad 2 it replaced, yet it still sold like hotcakes because it was Retina. If the iPad Mini Retina received the A5X processor, it would be able to push the Retina display, but it's CPU would roughly match the A5 in the current Mini and would be less powerful than the iPad 4. This helps the iPad 4 justify it's current price tag.

Later on when Apple refreshes the iPad 4 in the Fall of 2013 with a new (hopefully slimmer) design and an "A7" processor, this leaves room for the Ipad Mini Retina to receive a spec bump with an A6X.

If Apple just so happen to delay the iPad Mini Retina to Fall 2013, then in the meantime they might probably have another device (Apple TV?) to fill the void. Who knows...

Also, if anyone has doubts about cramming the iPad 4 display in a 7.9" size, HTC is already releasing a phone with a stunning 5" 1080p display. This equates to 440 PPI. This phone will probably be announced next week during a HTC / Verizon event on November 13th.

Link: http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/17/3515158/htc-shows-off-stunning-5-inch-1080p-j-butterfly-phone-in-japan
 
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