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Adding a storage device with USB-2 neutered performance should have gotten people from Apple Marketing jail time.
 
Upgrading from my mini 6 would make my Apple Pencil 2 garbage? No thank you.
It’s to simplify the lineup. All the “higher” end iPads support Apple Pencil Pro now. All new iPads support the Apple Pencil USB-C. I suspect the iPad 11 will drop support for the Apple Pencil 1 and add Apple Pencil Pro support so that Apple can phase out the Pencils 1 and 2 once the iPad 10 and iPad mini 6 become “obsolete.”
 
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This seems similar to the AirPods Max 2 launch, IE, keeping up with the bare minimum standards to fall in line with the rest of their product lineup. Max 2 was USB C because they can't have one random mainline device using an older connector. Mini is A17 because they can't have one random device in their lineup that can't do AI like the rest of the devices in the market push.

That's it iPad Mini hardware was updated simply so it could run updated software, nothing more. No thought or passion from the team behind it... meet the quota.
It’s a solid update, not sure what y’all are complaining about

It’s:
* substantially faster
* has double the RAM
* works with the newest gen pencils
* got some minor display updates (and presumably fixed the biggest complaint from the last model with scrolling)
* has a faster USBC port
* has doubled the storage on the base model
* gained some wifi and bt improvements.

All while staying at the same price point

It’s not due for a redesign yet, the hardware design matches the rest of the line, no one was expecting a 120hz screen yet, not until they cascade that down across the line, so what were you expecting?
 
It’s a solid update, not sure what y’all are complaining about

It’s:
* substantially faster
* has double the RAM
* works with the newest gen pencils
* got some minor display updates (and presumably fixed the biggest complaint from the last model with scrolling)
* has a faster USBC port
* has doubled the storage on the base model
* gained some wifi and bt improvements.

All while staying at the same price point

It’s not due for a redesign yet, the hardware design matches the rest of the line, no one was expecting a 120hz screen yet, not until they cascade that down across the line, so what were you expecting?

It's also more for Mini 4/5 owners or people who wanted to buy a Mini and were waiting for a refresh.

Heavy Mini 6 owners will appreciate the doubling of RAM.
 
Well, I guess I'm sticking with my iPad Mini 6. For what I use it for (which is a lot less than I expected) there doesn't seem to be much added value here. I really like my iPad Mini, but it has fallen into this space of being a simple note-taking, video-watching, social-media device. Occasionally I'll use Lightroom on it, and while it's a bit slow, it works fine enough.
 
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Worth mentioning that stated USB/Thunderbolt specs don’t apply to iPad to Mac transfers and backups. Up to 10Gbit/s (1.25GB) devices like USB-C SSDs should benefit.
Can you expand on this. So wired backups to my mac aren't faster?! Is that correct? Source?
 
Another feature that hasn’t been available on the iPad mini is support for Apple Pencil hover. This comes along with the other Apple Pencil Pro features but it was also available with the Pencil 2 for the iPad Pros. It is something that I’ve wanted for a while since it was introduced in 2022 (a year after the mini 6 was released).
 
I’m surprised that they’re using the A17 Pro for the iPad mini 7. I thought they were discontinuing the N3B process because it’s more costly than the N3E process used for the A18/A18 Pro. Unless they know the iPad mini 7 will only be available for a year before the iPad mini 8 is released next year? I don’t see Apple using the N3B process for three more years.
 
I’m surprised that they’re using the A17 Pro for the iPad mini 7. I thought they were discontinuing the N3B process because it’s more costly than the N3E process used for the A18/A18 Pro. Unless they know the iPad mini 7 will only be available for a year before the iPad mini 8 is released next year? I don’t see Apple using the N3B process for three more years.

It's very possible they have warehouses of the chip sitting around already made in quantities that will last for the run of the Mini7

iPhone numbers (and thus component production) is orders of magnitude beyond that of all their other products, so you can end up with LOTS of extra stuff
 
If my mini 6 hadn't accidentally ended up in the wash two weeks ago I might have waited until Xmas or the spring to buy a mini 7. Over the weekend I was jonesing for a working tablet so I'll bite the bullet this time. Binned chip means nothing to me in terms of CPU/GPU. USB 3.1 Gen 2 means more because the Gen 1 port on the mini 6 was crippled, especially its DisplayPort support. I'll happily trade the A18's gimped USB for the A17 Pro's better USB. Increased RAM and storage make the extra $100 easier to justify for me.

I wonder if the fix for the jelly-scroll effect was implemented but not advertised as Apple doesn't like to draw attention to misfires like that.
Yeah, I would never expect Apple to highlight a correction/hardware fix to a previous generation. We should know soon enough if they fixed jellygate.
 
Sure, if you assume technology doesn’t dramatically lower in cost each year like it has for the past four decades.
A few chips probably has gotten cheaper. I don't know anything that have gone down 'dramatically' though. On the other hand, bulk of the cost of the final product, such as raw material, labor/manufacturing, shipping has gone up quite a bit. For example, I just looked up the price of aluminum, which has gone up 42% since the beginning of 2020.
 
It's very possible they have warehouses of the chip sitting around already made in quantities that will last for the run of the Mini7

iPhone numbers (and thus component production) is orders of magnitude beyond that of all their other products, so you can end up with LOTS of extra stuff
There have been rumors of an OLED iPad mini possibly being released in 2026 so it’s possible that they have enough supply until then. If they release the iPad mini 8 with OLED and the A18 Pro in March/April 2026, they would only need the A17 Pro supply to last about 18 months?
 
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A few chips probably has gotten cheaper. I don't know anything that have gone down 'dramatically' though. On the other hand, bulk of the cost of the final product, such as raw material, labor/manufacturing, shipping has gone up quite a bit. For example, I just looked up the price of aluminum, which has gone up 42% since the beginning of 2020.

This display has almost certainly become cheaper. It's likely the most expensive item in the BOM.

Camera - guaranteed cheaper. It's still using the non-Focus Pixel sensor from iPhone XS/XR. Also simpler production with no SIM tray.
 
Not upset perse with the update. But WHY did it take this long to come out? This could have easily been released with the iPad Pro M4 and iPad Air M2 at the dedicated iPad event where the iPad mini was the ONLY iPad that didn't even get a mention (beyond them acknowledging that it still exists).

Why make us wait (because they really don't care, is probably the answer but still...)
 
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