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Think I would better buy a new one. Waking up from sleep seems to get harder. Siri slow and today it went black. Snappend out of it though but seems it has known its best days. Used it a lot though this year.
 
To all of you that state there'll never be a Mini Pro, I ask you to apply that logic to a half dozen Apple products/features in which we were told it'd never happen.
 
I think this perceived higher value of bigger (vs minimal actual manufacturing cost of bigger) is generally a major reason that small devices don’t get much attention or get axed completely. Part of it is many people want bigger devices but another part of it is companies are happy to sell more of the bigger devices to them for higher profit.
To rebuttal this thinking

Both the iphone 12 and 13 mini had higher arpu pr profits for unti sold than the 13 and 13 plus models! Yet never advertised and hidden behind the BUY button on any regional apple sales site. Why?!

That doesnt even make ANY Dollars & Sense! The 13 plus production order were cut in less than 3 months of shipping date which is 4 months esrlier than the 13 mini had been - these facts via Canalys and festured by news here on the main page f macrumors - easily searchable.

So that goes agonst this thought process other than Apple and the competition ONLy knowing how to swll a screen larger than a smaler one simply based on consumption of media. Its what all users understand and gravitate too. Its as if nobody has ever used the 3.5" OG iphone was ever satisfied nor any phone before and that forst 4yrs of that era (aka up to the iPhone 5S/SE OG)
 
To all of you that state there'll never be a Mini Pro, I ask you to apply that logic to a half dozen Apple products/features in which we were told it'd never happen.
The problem here is very simply, it would cannibalize sales of the iPhone which is the cash cow.
The same way you dont see OSX on the iPad, it would cannibalize sales of laptops.

I would love to see a mini pro but the closest we will get to one is the future foldable iPhone and it will carry a hefty price premium.
 
The problem here is very simply, it would cannibalize sales of the iPhone which is the cash cow.
The same way you dont see OSX on the iPad, it would cannibalize sales of laptops.

I would love to see a mini pro but the closest we will get to one is the future foldable iPhone and it will carry a hefty price premium.
How would an iPad Mini Pro cannibalize iPhone sales? iPads don't have the radios to make regular phone calls, and most people aren't going to mess with workarounds, so they'll still need their iPhones.
Also cannibalizing is only bad for a company if there is loss in revenue, but an iPad Mini Pro would cost about as much as an iPhone, maybe more.
So either way, fear of iPhone cannibalization is almost certainly not the reason.
 
How would an iPad Mini Pro cannibalize iPhone sales? iPads don't have the radios to make regular phone calls, and most people aren't going to mess with workarounds, so they'll still need their iPhones.
Also cannibalizing is only bad for a company if there is loss in revenue, but an iPad Mini Pro would cost about as much as an iPhone, maybe more.
So either way, fear of iPhone cannibalization is almost certainly not the reason.
The only phone that an iPad mini pro could cannibalize is an iPhone fold, and that one would cost even more ($2000 and up). Maybe it's best for Apple to keep the iPad mini a mid range device even if the fold is still years away.
And for us, it would still be better than Samsung that has removed any high end or even mid range mini tablet from their line over the last 10 years and their only mini tablets are a low end one (A9) and a mid-range but rugged (so thick and heavy) one (Active). The only high end mini Android tablet is from a company that does not make foldable phones, Lenovo.
 
The only high end mini Android tablet is from a company that does not make foldable phones, Lenovo.

Technically, there’s the Razr but that one unfolds into a normal-size phone rather than a mini tablet.

Still, I prefer iOS to Android so I’m glad Apple is still updating the iPad mini.
 
Technically, there’s the Razr but that one unfolds into a normal-size phone rather than a mini tablet.

Still, I prefer iOS to Android so I’m glad Apple is still updating the iPad mini.
Yeah I would not consider flip phones tablets. I also prefer iPads, but I am found some unique hardware features in some Android tablets that make them complementary to iPads (for a multi-tablet person...)
 
Yeah I would not consider flip phones tablets. I also prefer iPads, but I am found some unique hardware features in some Android tablets that make them complementary to iPads (for a multi-tablet person...)

I hear ya. I recently got a $125 Alldocube iPlay60 mini Turbo (SD 6 Gen 1) for emulation. Emulation on iOS kinda sucks.

I considered the Lenovo Y700 (SD 8+ Gen 1) for like 3x the price but retro games support isn’t a big leap over the iPlay60 so I ended up going for the cheaper tablet.

The 2024/25 release of the Y700 has a notably faster chipset but they ditched the microSD card slot which is a must-have for me for roms. :(
 
I hear ya. I recently got a $125 Alldocube iPlay60 mini Turbo (SD 6 Gen 1) for emulation. Emulation on iOS kinda sucks.

I considered the Lenovo Y700 (SD 8+ Gen 1) for like 3x the price but retro games support isn’t a big leap over the iPlay60 so I ended up going for the cheaper tablet.

The 2024/25 release of the Y700 has a notably faster chipset but they ditched the microSD card slot which is a must-have for me for roms. :(
And just last week I got myself an iPlay 50 mini pro (Helio G99) NFE 4G, basically the previous version, used for $60 but in mint condition and great battery life. I have to say I have been using it more than my iPad mini... I also considered the Legion Tab Y700 but it's too expensive for what I would use it for...
I haven't tried emulation yet.... Don't even know where to start... I mainly got it to bring a cheap device to an upcoming trip to Cuba, wouldn't like to risk one of my iPads... 😅
PS does the mini turbo support cellular?
 
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Currently the Mini 7 starts from £454 in John Lewis the UK which for an Apple device is a bargain I think.
 
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