I doubt it. Do not know for sure. The extra two GB or part of it is not used by the user at all.
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iPad Pro 11" 512GB vs 1TB
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I doubt it. Do not know for sure. The extra two GB or part of it is not used by the user at all.
There is nothing to speculate between models.
Apple has always kept performance linear across the Pro line. They have not strayed from that formula. The extra 2gb of ram is to deal with 1tb of storage only. There is no performance gains in the 1tb model over the others but in storage capacity. Even in heavy multi tasking applications you can’t access any more Ram than what that 1tb of memory requires its use for.
What this fog of 6gb vs 4gb will do is steer people that don’t understand how the extra 2gb of ram is implemented to pony up more $$ for the 1td just to be on the “safe side” thinking they are giving them self a little assurance of future proofing over the 256/512gb. I am buying 3 additional IPP 12.9 512gb for my companies use. If the 1tb offered any more performance other than memory, I would have purchased those as the cost difference is inconsequential.
Apple has always kept performance linear across the Pro line. They have not strayed from that formula. The extra 2gb of ram is to deal with 1tb of storage only. There is no performance gains in the 1tb model over the others but in storage capacity. Even in heavy multi tasking applications you can’t access any more Ram than what that 1tb of memory requires its use for.
What this fog of 6gb vs 4gb will do is steer people that don’t understand how the extra 2gb of ram is implemented to pony up more $$ for the 1td just to be on the “safe side” thinking they are giving them self a little assurance of future proofing over the 256/512gb. I am buying 3 additional IPP 12.9 512gb for my companies use. If the 1tb offered any more performance other than memory, I would have purchased those as the cost difference is inconsequential.
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Guys these benchmarks are not proving or saying that any device is faster than the other. What these numbers tell me, is that this it is all within a margin of error.
It’s all Kind of like saying my silver iPad is faster than your space gray iPad lol. There are going to be variances running the same benchmark on the exact same device no matter what you do.
Also, the 1TB ipad does not only have 5GB of ram. It shows clearly in the screen shot that it has 5,684MB of memory available and that’s it. That is roughly 5.55GB of memory available after the device is powered on. So, the internal 1TB storage drive is using 460MB of space if that’s even what it is used for. That is less than half of 1GB. That is still, a large portion of extra memory over the 4GB iPad Pro model.
Now let’s look at the 4GB model, it says it only has 3769mb of ram available. So it has 3.69GB of ram for applications to use.
I’ve used (2) different iPad Pro 11” models with 4GB of memory for over a month. Then I upgraded to a 11” iPad Pro with 6GB of ram and 1TB of storage.
The difference is noticeable in my day to day task. I can leave several things minimized and play Ark Survival without micro studdering or skipping going on. The 4GB model could not do this.
So, Whoever says the 1TB model uses memory for the SSD is BS! Because the 4GB model is doing the exact same thing.
The 512GB should have 4096MB available, and the 1TB model should have 6144MB available.
But instead,
1TB model has 5,684mb available
512GB model has 3,769mb available
Have a look for your self. Both of these devices have allocated some portion of there RAM or memory to something. And, it’s not applications using it. This is how much memory they have all together to be used.
Maybe the iPads have some of there ram allocated to some sort of page file? I don’t know, but they both have some of there memory being used for something.. No matter how you slice it, the 1TB model still has 2GB more useable memory.
It’s all Kind of like saying my silver iPad is faster than your space gray iPad lol. There are going to be variances running the same benchmark on the exact same device no matter what you do.
Also, the 1TB ipad does not only have 5GB of ram. It shows clearly in the screen shot that it has 5,684MB of memory available and that’s it. That is roughly 5.55GB of memory available after the device is powered on. So, the internal 1TB storage drive is using 460MB of space if that’s even what it is used for. That is less than half of 1GB. That is still, a large portion of extra memory over the 4GB iPad Pro model.
Now let’s look at the 4GB model, it says it only has 3769mb of ram available. So it has 3.69GB of ram for applications to use.
I’ve used (2) different iPad Pro 11” models with 4GB of memory for over a month. Then I upgraded to a 11” iPad Pro with 6GB of ram and 1TB of storage.
The difference is noticeable in my day to day task. I can leave several things minimized and play Ark Survival without micro studdering or skipping going on. The 4GB model could not do this.
So, Whoever says the 1TB model uses memory for the SSD is BS! Because the 4GB model is doing the exact same thing.
The 512GB should have 4096MB available, and the 1TB model should have 6144MB available.
But instead,
1TB model has 5,684mb available
512GB model has 3,769mb available
Have a look for your self. Both of these devices have allocated some portion of there RAM or memory to something. And, it’s not applications using it. This is how much memory they have all together to be used.
Maybe the iPads have some of there ram allocated to some sort of page file? I don’t know, but they both have some of there memory being used for something.. No matter how you slice it, the 1TB model still has 2GB more useable memory.
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How is it BS when you yourself show that the 1TB model has 460MB memory reserved while the 512GB model has 327MB reserved from the offset? Mind, the reserve is probably just bare minimum for normal/idle. Quite likely that the storage controller uses more RAM for heavier workload.
That said, yes, the 1TB models do have quite a bit more extra RAM available to share so beneficial for multitasking or memory-intensive apps.
All I’m saying is, I keep reading people say that the 1TB model has all this extra memory tied up and it really doesn’t have 6GB of ram. Because the extra memory goes to running the storage drive. So there is no advantage.
I’m calling BS on it, because the 1TB model is using an extra 133mb of memory? That is very very small.
Here’s the average comment.
“”” The 1TB has 6GB of memory, but the extra 2GB is being used to help with the 1TB of storage space so it makes no difference”””
My finding show 133MB extra is being used. Well that’s fine with me. From all the rumors I’ve read, I was expecting way way way worse.
I guess dealing with 1/10th of a Whole GB more being utilized while having 50% more memory is ok with me to have 1TB.
Either model is sufficiently equipped. So it really doesn’t matter that much.
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Note, memory usage is dependent on workload. That's 133MB *base*. If you look at SSDs, manufacturers use roughly 1GB per TB of storage. They're not putting that RAM there out of the goodness of their hearts but because it's needed to prevent performance degradation. Why does Apple use 6GB RAM and not 4.5GB or even 5GB? Channel supply for 6GB is readily available and likely cheaper compared to unusual configurations.
Of course, it's not like the storage subsystem is under heavy load all the time and even if it were, it doesn't really need all that 2GB so that excess RAM is useable. Not really gonna affect CPU benchmarks but should be pretty useful for multitasking.
That said, probably not worth spending an extra $400 if one doesn't need 1TB storage.
I’ve been building computers and programming for a long time, I know how memory works. I didn’t pay MSRP for my iPad, so the 1TB is pretty attainable at a good price even for a new one. They are silly expensive from apple though.
What I’m getting at is, with the 1TB having 5,684mb; all of this memory is available to me for applications to use.
Same with the 512GB model all of its 3,769mb is available for you to use for applications.
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I believe each app has an imposed limit of how much RAM it can use, it's not a case of there is an extra 2GB RAM on the 1TB model so one app has access to an additional 2GB RAM. It still has it's imposed limit so there should be no performance gain when using an app. Where you are likely to notice a difference if you are swapping between apps and data is not retained when an app is back grounded e.g. Safari having to reload web pages etc. - this should happen less on the 1TB model.
Of course. Yea, I was only meaning that all of the 5,700mb of memory on the 1TB can be used by me if needed. Neither model is faster then one or the other “with basic usage”
Using adobe rush editing 4K video, it uses a lot of memory. That is the only app I’ve seen the extra memory useful for. Once you've started nearing the end of editing and finishing a video, usually you have a lot of cuts, and a lot of layers, and a lot of different items in a timeline. And playing a 4K timeline will begin to skip and sputter along at a very low fps. The more you edit a video, the more memory you are using.
The 1TB model has not done this thus far at all.
This thread is in comparison of the different models. I just want to add meaningful data to this thread for anyone who might edit a lot of video. Or is looking in to the 1TB model. There is so much bogus info about it on the internet.
What I'm getting at is that available memory is shared among general processing, graphics and storage.
Yes, you definitely get more usable RAM with the 1TB model which should useful for multi-tasking and memory intensive tasks. However, it's not like the 1TB model only uses 133 MB extra RAM for storage all the time. That depends on workload. Heck, I've seen storage benchmarks suggesting writes are being cached to RAM.
The 1TB model got more RAM because it needed more (on occasion). Bonus is it got more than what's necessary and it doesn't need that extra RAM all the time so it's useful for general apps (lol, probably quite helpful for multi-tab Safari).
Mind, even at used pricing, I still see around $200-300 difference between 512GB and 1TB. I wouldn't pay that premium *just* for RAM but if I was already on the fence between those two, that might tip the scales.
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Pepperidge Farm remembers. ;-)
And 80% of all apple users. Ordinary people doesn’t care about specs. People on this forum are not representative of the full Apple user group.
Most af Apple’s customers won’t feel any difference between 4 or 8 GB of RAM. That’s why Apple doesn’t take part in the spec wars (too much). I’m looking at you, Samsung S10 with 8 gigs of ram. Only geeks get their pants wet by that.
The Samsung Galaxy 10+ “Ultimate Performance Edition” has 1TB of storage, and 12GB of ram!
12GB?! Holy cow..Samsung builds memory modules, and SSD’s, and panels too so it’s easy for them I suppose
It is $1,599 for the “Ultimate Performance Edition”
Very interesting. That 12GB makes my 6GB look a little measly.. That is a serious phone.
This phone does interest me very much, but I’d honestly like to wait and see what apple offers, I’ve owned a iPhone SE since launch, and I am ready for a new phone anyways. Still, 12GB lol hard to believe!
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Just an update to this thread, I am working on testing the memory usage on a 4GB model and a 6GB model iPad. Some people think the 1TB model has memory reserved for handling heavily used storage.
What I’ve actually found out is all iPad Pro 3rd gen models have about 7.5% of there memory reserved.
I’m running a series of several application on each device, to see how much memory is being utilized.
I will update this soon, when I finish.
Im going to demonstrate in a video, both devices use the same amount of memory even if you completely load it’s internal storage. If you are interested in specific applications, please let me know. And I’ll try to include it.
So far what I am seeing, the 1TB iPad Pro has 48% more memory than all of the other iPads. And this 48% more memory is always all useable too.
7-8% is reserved on all iPads regardless if it is a 64gb,256gb,512gb, or 1tb.
Hope this helps anyone who was curious about it.
I will further update this with a more in-depth explanation.
What I’ve actually found out is all iPad Pro 3rd gen models have about 7.5% of there memory reserved.
I’m running a series of several application on each device, to see how much memory is being utilized.
I will update this soon, when I finish.
Im going to demonstrate in a video, both devices use the same amount of memory even if you completely load it’s internal storage. If you are interested in specific applications, please let me know. And I’ll try to include it.
So far what I am seeing, the 1TB iPad Pro has 48% more memory than all of the other iPads. And this 48% more memory is always all useable too.
7-8% is reserved on all iPads regardless if it is a 64gb,256gb,512gb, or 1tb.
Hope this helps anyone who was curious about it.
I will further update this with a more in-depth explanation.
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