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iPad Pro IPad Pro 12.9“ 2021: some thoughts
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I am taking the same approach, but my iPP is supposed to ship the end of May early June. So it is going to be a close call on deciding to cancel/return the iPP. I'm hoping my cellular provider has a more generous return period, than a purchase from Apple.
I'm truly not just "kicking tires", I've owned many, many Macs/iPads over the years. I usually keep Mac desktops for a long time, and iPads and iPhones about 3-4 years.
But, the new M1 universe and some changes in OS (in the last year or so) and potentially big changes in iOS due to M1, and increased RAM, has me running in circles.
If I think I'll be returning something, I wouldn't want to do it via AT&T or Verizon. Their customer service is a pain to deal with.
Show me a 5K display of great quality that works perfect with Macs offering 2x scaling.
Running in circles the day I installed my M1 MacMin I read Apple has started production of the M2 chip. I’m like time to send it back. At this rate the new 2022 iPad will have a 3nm M3 chip.
It’s not discontinue it’s an update. Apple rehashed the same design and features for years when it had Intel chips.
You don't need 5k given your usage. You may want it, then yes, get the iMac Pro - btw, LG makes a really nice 5k display.
It sounds like you're stretching to find excuses to justify the iMac Pro (which isn't even a product anymore since Apple killed it) . Its your money and your decision, you don't need to justify it, but so far the reasons that you put forth are not compelling arguments on why an iMac Pro is the best machine for your use case.
I'm not sure how we got on this iMac Pro side discussion, so I'll just leave it that you seem pretty well decided on an iMac Pro regardless of what I or others say. No biggie, I don't take it personally and I'm not trying to "win" an argument. You want an iMac Pro, its your money ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As for the iPad, I'm hoping to see a continued trend to see the iPad being leveraged more and more. I will say that for me, its going to be mostly a consumption device.
With iMac Pro I mean the replacement for the 27" Intel iMac. There are rumours that it will be renamed to Pro...
I don't need any Xeon CPUs...
I had an LG Ultrafine 4K display and I hated it. It is not even close to the picture quality of my 27“ iMac. Display quality is extremely important to me and this has nothing to do with my line of work. I just want to have the best possible display. If the XDR display were not so expensive, I would consider getting it..An all in one computer is perfect for my needs and wants.
You seem overly concerned with what the OP wants to buy. I didn't see him throw out a "convince me otherwise" challenge or "I wish I had another choice" remark, so I'm not sure why you're trying so hard to convince him to get something else, lol! Besides, lots of us like to buy things that are technically "overkill" for our (current) needs, but we just like nice things and you never know when your needs may also change.
I think he was giving the OP reasonable consideration... I even thought his considerations were valid, I honestly didn't understand the OP mentioning overkill in their opening post, but in the same context mention portability was the cause for the move from 16" MBP over to 13" MBP.
No shade to the OP at all, but I think realistically he was in the market for the 13" MBP and not the newest iPP. If they honestly were willing to give the iPP a chance... after WWDC would be a better position to entertain the idea that a iPP could be their productivity device.
It was just so persistent over multiple posts, like a cross-examination. That's why I replied that way. It's just strange for someone to mention they want to buy something (not that they're debating buying it) and then someone else, unsolicited, is like "Why? Why do you need that? Why don't you get this instead? You don't need that." etc. ?
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There will always be something better down the line. If you can plan right you can have an upgrade that lasts longer. I would argue that buying an iPad Pro holds its performance value better than buying a MacBook Pro as most iPad OS software is catered to the lower end iPads, thus buying the top of the line iPad will stay performing well for many years.
Sounds like the OP is trying to talk themself out of the new iPad Pro, which isn't a bad thing. When they said, "I feel good about my decision..." it sounds like self-convincing justification talking.
Honestly, for entertainment & media consumption primarily, I'd think just the opposite; the 12.9" IPP is a no-brainer! The higher quality screen from the 2021 12.9 iPad Pro is made for media consumption in mind (and of course professionals grading with HDR in mind). But Netflix, Amazon, Disney+, MoviesAnywhere, AppleTV+, etc all are on the 4K/HDR bandwagon.
Honestly, for entertainment & media consumption primarily, I'd think just the opposite; the 12.9" IPP is a no-brainer! The higher quality screen from the 2021 12.9 iPad Pro is made for media consumption in mind (and of course professionals grading with HDR in mind). But Netflix, Amazon, Disney+, MoviesAnywhere, AppleTV+, etc all are on the 4K/HDR bandwagon.
Perhaps, but some have other usages and don’t want to spend more for what will bring little to no benefit considering their iPad usage. I rarely watch shows or movies on an iPad, much preferring our television. I’m not sure how much difference the M1 and XDR will matter for reading books and PDFs, engaging in social media, and generally surfing the web. If there were a 12.9” Air, that would probably be just the ticket for many.
And yet the lure of new tech complicates things. We love the idea of what we could do with the improvements, and yet experience has shown us that we probably won’t change how we use it.
So here I am, having a 2021 12.9" on order from Costco, wondering if I should cancel it and be content with a 2020 12.9" and save $250. Will I see a difference in the screen when I read a book or play from a page of sheet music? Four years from now, doing the same sort of low to medium (at most) demanding things that I do now, would I really know the difference between a 2020 and a 2021?
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Actually I was not on the market for anything. All of my computers are fairly new and powerful. I just like to have the latest and greatest and I can always buy things as a business expense for my IT Consulting business that I have. When the new iPad came out I immediately thought that I would love to have it. After a lot of thought I realized I actually wanted to experience the M1 processor. That is the main reason for everything I did the last couple of days 
The 16“ MBP that I owned is a great computer and the reason I got it in the first place was the big screen. I do not need it though. I have my iMac at home. When on the road the 13” MBP is great. As the 2021 iPad Pro concerns, sure it’s great, but how big of a difference is it from the 2020 model? I am not looking for justification. Why would I need to do that. It’s a forum and people post their thoughts and interact with each other. I also said that if I were rich I would get the new iPad Pro too, despite the small differences to the old model. I just couldn’t stop thinking that the M1 processor is much better suited in a Mac instead of an iPad. Maybe WWDC will change that. In this case I would revisit my decision.
Today my 13” MBP arrives and I am more than curious to see if it lives up to the hype. I know that people would say to wait for the redesigned 14” MBP. Well, we are hearing about it for two years and it’s still not on the market. Will it come out? Sure, but we don’t know when. When it comes out and if it offers a real upgrade from the 13” model then I will get it. There will always be something better down the line.
The 16“ MBP that I owned is a great computer and the reason I got it in the first place was the big screen. I do not need it though. I have my iMac at home. When on the road the 13” MBP is great. As the 2021 iPad Pro concerns, sure it’s great, but how big of a difference is it from the 2020 model? I am not looking for justification. Why would I need to do that. It’s a forum and people post their thoughts and interact with each other. I also said that if I were rich I would get the new iPad Pro too, despite the small differences to the old model. I just couldn’t stop thinking that the M1 processor is much better suited in a Mac instead of an iPad. Maybe WWDC will change that. In this case I would revisit my decision.
Today my 13” MBP arrives and I am more than curious to see if it lives up to the hype. I know that people would say to wait for the redesigned 14” MBP. Well, we are hearing about it for two years and it’s still not on the market. Will it come out? Sure, but we don’t know when. When it comes out and if it offers a real upgrade from the 13” model then I will get it. There will always be something better down the line.
My 2018 12.9 was mostly a Comsumption machine but then that is my primary use for home computing now. Edge cases like lightroom I have a small windows PC connected to a monitor - and I often remote into it from my iPad for basic things that need windows
I was just trying to help the member, sorry if that bothered you. The OP mentioned his needs, but also then his desire for a certain computer. We went back in forth as we were discussing the pros and cons of his needs, desires and my opinions. As I said in a prior post its his decision, his money, and he has to live with the computer. I was just trying to show there may be alternatives. Sorry if that was something that annoyed you
I didn't feel in any way bothered. Thanks for your contribution and thoughts. I just got the M1 13" MBP and so far so good. It is of course too early to tell how good it is for me..I was just trying to help the member, sorry if that bothered you. The OP mentioned his needs, but also then his desire for a certain computer. We went back in forth as we were discussing the pros and cons of his needs, desires and my opinions. As I said in a prior post its his decision, his money, and he has to live with the computer. I was just trying to show there may be alternatives. Sorry if that was something that annoyed you
Congrats and good luck
As a side note, I'm not down on the new iMacs, in fact I absolutely love the new design and colors.
I was just trying to help the member, sorry if that bothered you. The OP mentioned his needs, but also then his desire for a certain computer. We went back in forth as we were discussing the pros and cons of his needs, desires and my opinions. As I said in a prior post its his decision, his money, and he has to live with the computer. I was just trying to show there may be alternatives. Sorry if that was something that annoyed you
It just came across as really pushy and then you throw the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ in there as if you're exasperated about his decision or something and implying he's wasting money. He says it didn't bother him, but if you go back you'll see he and 2 others "liked" my post (35), so I'm not alone here in this opinion. If he had invited you to debate his decision or asked for help, that would be totally different and I wouldn't have said anything.
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What ever dude, you can think what ever you want. No skin off my nose as I'm not worked up over it. Its a discussion forum and we were you know, discussing
Finally, I don't view ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as exasperation.
I'm pretty much done, so I'll bow out of thread, since the OP is all set - peace out
Finally, I don't view ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ as exasperation.
I'm pretty much done, so I'll bow out of thread, since the OP is all set - peace out
No need to be condescending. If I say "I can't wait to buy x" and someone comes in and says "Why? You don't need x" - that may be a discussion, but it's still presumptuous and a bit rude, imo. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ in and of itself is not exasperation, but in context it comes across that way. Just calling it as I see it (that's discussion too, you know), not "worked up" about it. Glad you're not either. Take care! P.S. Interesting that you find my post laughable. I fail to see the humor in it.
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So lets get back to the original topic. I really think it's a shame that Apple hasn't improved iPadOS in ways that do the iPad hardware justice. Maybe it is wrong though to expect the iPad to become like a traditional PC/Mac. This will never happen. Maybe we need to think different. The only problem I see is that for many people it's a luxury to have a laptop and an iPad and maybe a desktop computer. The iPad alone will not cut it, at least not for many typical computing tasks. It has gotten better but it still has ways to go.
I'm not really an experienced iPad user (I've bought only one - iPad 2 back in 2012...still have it), but I've just never viewed a tablet like that as a desktop replacement, but a complementary device. With the new MacBooks (Air/Pro) being so light and portable, I don't really see the point in someone wanting an iPad to replace that if they need desktop-class applications. To me, an iPad is more of entertainment device for travel or for specific occupations where a touch-screen and/or tablet form-factor works better (and even then it might they might still use a Mac along with it).