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Friend of mine was sporting one of these new chargers on his 12.9 iPP today. He started at about 35% charge at 1PM and by 4PM it was at 97%... WHILE USING IT ALL AFTERNOON! That's incredible... I'm definitely buying one this weekend...

Yeah it is a little pricy for what it is, but the speed sure is impressive. Make for a great midday charge too when your on the go.
 
After picking up one of the new cables yesterday I noticed an interesting tidbit missed by the bloggers - it has "(c) 2015" printed on the box. Every other product released in 2016 (iPad Pro 9.7", its keyboard, watch bands, etc.) say "(c) 2016".

So the USB-C cable was intended to be released last year, most likely alongside the big Pro, but there was a spanner in the works.
 
After picking up one of the new cables yesterday I noticed an interesting tidbit missed by the bloggers - it has "(c) 2015" printed on the box. Every other product released in 2016 (iPad Pro 9.7", its keyboard, watch bands, etc.) say "(c) 2016".

So the USB-C cable was intended to be released last year, most likely alongside the big Pro, but there was a spanner in the works.

Or they just decided to hold it back and sell it separately to make more money out of us. No, wait that doesn't sound like Apple does it :p
 
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There's no conspiracy of mistiming here. 99.9% of computer owners don't have USB-C ports for syncing. USB Type A ports aren't safe for high power delivery. So to make everyone happy either Apple would have to include two cables and 1-2 chargers in the iPad's box or sell the high power charger and cable separately.

Either way you'll pay the same. But by choosing the latter option Apple gets to maintain the minimalist packaging for the iPad. When many people have USB-C then things will change. Apple will likely have them on all future Macs going forward.
 
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There's no conspiracy of mistiming here. 99.9% of computer owners don't have USB-C ports for syncing. USB Type A cables aren't safe for high power delivery. So to make everyone happy either Apple would have to include two cables and 1-2 chargers in the iPad's box or sell the high power charger and cable separately.

Either way you'll pay the same. But by choosing the latter option Apple gets to maintain the minimalist packaging for the iPad. When many people have USB-C then things will change. Apple will likely have them on all future Macs going forward.


They could have included the 29W charger and USB-C cable as the default pack-in if they wanted to. If they wanted to maintain compatibility with older USB formats they could have added an adapter in for the cable.

But either they'd have to have swallowed the (tiny) increase in cost, or more likely pass it on to us. That's likely why they didn't do it.
 
Apple was already selling the charger... What we needed was the simple usb-c/3.0 cable.

They did this for extra $$$.
 
Apple was already selling the charger... What we needed was the simple usb-c/3.0 cable.

They did this for extra $$$.

Please guys. Re-read your posts before posting speculation. I'm not saying I'm perfect or that Apple doesn't capitalise on its users, but these responses are illogical after I made such a straight forward answer previously.
 
Please guys. Re-read your posts before posting speculation. I'm not saying I'm perfect or that Apple doesn't capitalise on its users, but these responses are illogical after I made such a straight forward answer previously.
Just because you say this doesn't make YOU right either.... of course this is speculation but please don't tell me apple couldn't have included this 6 months ago. This is apple and we're not talking about brand new technology that hadn't already been released. The charger was already being sold. Your argument is that a usb-c to lightning cable was too difficult to produce?
 
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Just because you say this doesn't make YOU right either.... of course this is speculation but please don't tell me apple couldn't have included this 6 months ago. This is apple and we're not talking about brand new technology that hadn't already been released. The charger was already being sold. Your argument is that a usb-c to lightning cable was too difficult to produce?

No, his argument is that the vast majority of people have USB 2/3 and not USB C. Not everybody uses the cable exclusively for charging. Instead of forcing the majority of users to buy another USB 2/3 cable, it makes sense to include the cable that MOST people have on their computers.

I agree it would have been nice to have the 29w/USB-C solution included, but if they had people would have been mad about the lack of the USB 2/3 cable.
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Please guys. Re-read your posts before posting speculation. I'm not saying I'm perfect or that Apple doesn't capitalise on its users, but these responses are illogical after I made such a straight forward answer previously.

Yep. 100% agree with your analysis. Apple isn't perfect, but it's also not downright evil. Your explanation is both logical and the most likely to fit!
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They could have included the 29W charger and USB-C cable as the default pack-in if they wanted to. If they wanted to maintain compatibility with older USB formats they could have added an adapter in for the cable.

But either they'd have to have swallowed the (tiny) increase in cost, or more likely pass it on to us. That's likely why they didn't do it.

By the same logic, Apple is ripping us off because they include the standard earbuds with the iPhone and not Beats earbuds. Apple provided you with a solution to charge your iPad Pro and a way to connect it to 99.9% of computers on the market.
 
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You cats say Apple is ripping you off yet here you are purchasing their products. I bet many of you sassing Apple have multiple Apple products, so you know they get over on you all the time.. :)

And why are y'all taking up for Apple? LOL (yes I know I'm poking the tiger but still... Go outside and play instead of arguing over the Internet... Bean heads! :p )

P.s. I love you guys though. Passionate about your speculation and opinions.. :)
 
Has anyone tried using this cable with a 3A/5V USB-C charger? I'd be happy with a 15W charge rate over 12W if I can avoid the expense (and size, of the 29W adapter).
 
So how long is it to charge the pro on a 12W and how long is it to charge with the 29W and usb c to lightning cable?
 
I don't think Apple is ripping us off, but I think they released an inferior product.

It takes longer to charge this thing than the battery can last in some situations. I have killed , my pro in 4 hours a few times. It takes longer than that to charge it, roughly 5 hours. This is poor engineering.
 
I thought I'd chime in with my findings before going to bed.

I got my USB-C to Lightning cable delivered to me today, and I spent some time draining my iPad Pro battery with multiple runs of GFX Bench Metal's battery test. I drained it down to 10% then started to get it charging. Here's a screenshot with @echo1877's excellent app (sadly no longer on the App Store):

As you can see it indicates 2A / 29W charging (I guess the app needs to update the "max Power" for the iPad Pro)

I turned the screen off and left it charging while I went to do some stuff. I came back about 2.5 hours later and it's fully charged:

I'm personally very impressed by the charging speed. I've ordered a second 29W power brick just for this - decided to save a little and get a used one from Amazon for about $30.

Thank you for the link to GFXBench Metal. I also use the 29W Apple charger and USB-C to Lightening. I can tell you that I couldn't go back to the standard one.
 
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Hi all!

I'm looking to purchase the 29w charger and a usbc to lightning cable for my ipad pro since it actually loses charge when I'm using it plugged in. I have to video conference often so it's aggravating to see the charge go down while plugged in.

I'm concerned about heat with using the macbook charger and the new cable :eek: and i'm wondering if anyone has had any heat issues with charging the ipad while using?

Thanks!
 
Hi all!

I'm looking to purchase the 29w charger and a usbc to lightning cable for my ipad pro since it actually loses charge when I'm using it plugged in. I have to video conference often so it's aggravating to see the charge go down while plugged in.

I'm concerned about heat with using the macbook charger and the new cable :eek: and i'm wondering if anyone has had any heat issues with charging the ipad while using?

Thanks!
I haven't had any heat issues. It gets warm while charging but nothing crazy.
 
It's quite annoying how there is so much superstition about fast charging. If the device were not engineered to charge at that speed yet Apple (or any company for that matter) allowed it to be done, you'd be looking at a class action lawsuit or a product recall.

I mean just look at the exploding Note 7.....
 
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It's quite annoying how there is so much superstition about fast charging. If the device were not engineered to charge at that speed yet Apple (or any company for that matter) allowed it to be done, you'd be looking at a class action lawsuit or a product recall.

I mean just look at the exploding Note 7.....
Comments like yours come up a lot, and I think it's misrepresenting the warning often given about fast charging. It's not that a device is meant or not meant to charge at a fast rate, it obviously is and will work fine. However there are drawbacks - faster charging = more heat, and more heat shortens the life of the battery. So the argument against is not that the iPad isn't meant to fast charge with the 29W charger, it's that causing the battery to heat up more with a fast charge will shorten it's life. It's a cost benefit analysis for each person, but regardless of how you come out on the issue there is a cost to fast charging.

That said, I use the 29W charger with my iPad all the time and decided I'd probably sell the device before any battery life issues actually come up.
 
Dunno, I go to sleep and when I wake up my Pro is charged. That is pretty darn fast. :)

If I was a power user and the battery died during the day then I would explore an alternative.
 
it's that causing the battery to heat up more with a fast charge will shorten it's life.

Very well, I concede this point. Do you have any statistics or scientific studies as to the extent of the battery life depreciation? Because if it is 0.1% of the battery life, it's really not going to matter except to the most nitpicky person.

I remain unconvinced that good engineers would design a fast charging solution that would decrease battery life by any significant extent.
 
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There's no conspiracy of mistiming here. 99.9% of computer owners don't have USB-C ports for syncing. USB Type A ports aren't safe for high power delivery. So to make everyone happy either Apple would have to include two cables and 1-2 chargers in the iPad's box or sell the high power charger and cable separately.

Either way you'll pay the same. But by choosing the latter option Apple gets to maintain the minimalist packaging for the iPad. When many people have USB-C then things will change. Apple will likely have them on all future Macs going forward.
What you said is totally false.

I have iPad Pro 12.9" and I also purchased USB-C lightning cable with 29W charger from Apple shop. I also have ASUS Z270 IX Hero motherboard which has USB-C port with power delivery. But when my iPad is charged through my PC's USB-C port, it doesn't fast charge. It also does not sync at USB 3/C speeds even though I use the genuine USB-C to lightning cable.

What Apple has left out is the little detail that Apple's charger is not spec compliant with USB power delivery standards of USB-C. So iPad will always charge at lower speed in such scenario as a safety measure. So to get full speed charging, we have no other option but to buy ridiculously priced 29W proprietary charger from Apple only.

It is absolutely shameful that Apple's intentions are not honorable on this iPad 12.9" charging scenario. They need to be exposed. But the worst part is, people blindly go by the logic that "It's done by Apple so there must be a rationale behind it". Just that there was no rationale apart from hoodwinking genuine iPad buyers to cough out more money for accessories.
 
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