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good day y'all,

I'm about to order a 12.9 wifi only iPP.

I'm going to use it for a personal medium size project, as an experiment I'm going to try to work exclusively on the iPad.

The apps I'm going to use are Pages, Numbers and Keynote.

I had made up my mind about buying the 256GB version + pencil and use my Apple wireless keyboard with it.

Now that I'm abaout to order it, I'm wondering if I really need the pencil and that maybe I should use the 100 bucks towards getting the 512GB version.

I've set my budget and would like to stick to it :) I must give the impression of being a responsible adult.

As a non artist has anyone found the pencil useful for editing docs, note taking, etc?

Cheers.
 
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Why not hold off on buying the stylus, there's no reason why you need to have it on day one. Use the iPad with the keyboard and if you feel that its needed but it after the fact.

As for 256gb vs. 512gb. Do you need (or foresee yourself needing) anything over 256GB?
 
If your not an artist or someone who takes notes daily then you may not need the Apple Pencil, I do love mine but I use it daily to take notes, draw and even Photo edit in Affinity Photo. However if you don't plan on doing any of these things I wouldn't get the Pencil.

In regards to storage, do you download a lot of TV Shows and movies from iTunes? If the answer is yes and you like to keep content on your iPad Pro then I would get the 512GB if not then 256GB might be enough, just beware that once you have 256GB you can't add more storage afterwards.
 
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good day y'all,

I'm about to order a 12.9 wifi only iPP.

I'm going to use it for a personal medium size project, as an experiment I'm going to try to work exclusively on the iPad.

The apps I'm going to use are Pages, Numbers and Keynote.

I had made up my mind about buying the 256GB version + pencil and use my Apple wireless keyboard with it.

Now that I'm abaout to order it, I'm wondering if I really need the pencil and that maybe I should use the 100 bucks towards getting the 512GB version.

I've set my budget and would like to stick to it :) I must give the impression of being a responsible adult.

As a non artist has anyone found the pencil useful for editing docs, note taking, etc?

Cheers.

Perhaps wait until iOS 11 is released. It will offer more Apple Pencil expanded capabilities and it will give you time to see if you would appreciate the Pencil. But for editing and note taking, I would ask yourself how much would you use it for those features.
 
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Why not hold off on buying the stylus, there's no reason why you need to have it on day one. Use the iPad with the keyboard and if you feel that its needed but it after the fact.

As for 256gb vs. 512gb. Do you need (or foresee yourself needing) anything over 256GB?

Thanks for the reply, the iPad I'm currently using is a 25GB iPad 4, so 256GB seems like enough storage, then again you can never have too much

If your not an artist or someone who takes notes daily then you may not need the Apple Pencil, I do love mine but I use it daily to take notes, draw and even Photo edit in Affinity Photo. However if you don't plan on doing any of these things I wouldn't get the Pencil.

In regards to storage, do you download a lot of TV Shows and movies from iTunes? If the answer is yes and you like to keep content on your iPad Pro then I would get the 512GB if not then 256GB might be enough, just beware that once you have 256GB you can't add more storage afterwards.

That's why I was wondering, if I would actually use the pencil considering I only work on text documents with flow charts and graphs.

Storagewise i mostly stream shows and I keep no music at all on my iPad.

Perhaps wait until iOS 11 is released. It will offer more Apple Pencil expanded capabilities and it will give you time to see if you would appreciate the Pencil. But for editing and note taking, I would ask yourself how much would you use it for those features.

I see what you mean, as much as I think I might use the pencil I wouldn't want it to become an expensive and ineffective paperweight. However I don't think I'll really know unless I use one... decisions decisions decisions lol

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Thank you all for taking the time to reply, much appreciated.
 
Thanks for the reply, the iPad I'm currently using is a 25GB iPad 4, so 256GB seems like enough storage, then again you can never have too much



That's why I was wondering, if I would actually use the pencil considering I only work on text documents with flow charts and graphs.

Storagewise i mostly stream shows and I keep no music at all on my iPad.



I see what you mean, as much as I think I might use the pencil I wouldn't want it to become an expensive and ineffective paperweight. However I don't think I'll really know unless I use one... decisions decisions decisions lol

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Thank you all for taking the time to reply, much appreciated.

It is a great Apple Pencil but expensive at the same time, if you don't use it daily or at least regularly then it probably won't be worth it. If don't store any music or TV shows/movies on your iPad or do anything thet takes up a lot of space like using Affinity photo editing tools or iMovie then you'll probably be more than happy with the 256GB.
 
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Add the pencil later...the main thing to get the storage right. 256gb should be adequate for most people.

Do you take it outside the house, trips, etc where you need to have movies/media on it?

Keep in mind that most will have this device of 3-4 years so size accordingly. But 256gb is a good median.
 
Add the pencil later...the main thing to get the storage right. 256gb should be adequate for most people.

Do you take it outside the house, trips, etc where you need to have movies/media on it?

Keep in mind that most will have this device of 3-4 years so size accordingly. But 256gb is a good median.

Unless your someone who downloads all those shows on the iPad, I've gone back and forth with the idea of a 256GB or 512GB, I download TV shows and films to my iPad and the 512GB will enable me to have all the episode of Game Of Thrones on my iPad :)
 
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Unless your someone who downloads all those shows on the iPad, I've gone back and forth with the idea of a 256GB or 512GB, I download TV shows and films to my iPad and the 512GB will enable me to have all the episode of Game Of Thrones on my iPad :)
In fairness, unless you're using uncompressed Blu-ray rips (in which case I don't believe 512GB is sufficient), 256GB should also be able to fit the complete Game of Thrones. ;)
 
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In fairness, unless you're using uncompressed Blu-ray rips (in which case I don't believe 512GB is sufficient), 256GB should also be able to fit the complete Game of Thrones. ;)

No just the series from iTunes :) I do have other TV shows as well, it's probably overkill to have them all on my iPad when I have fiber internet at home, but it's just in case the internet goes down!
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It certainly will (w/512gb of space), but I question if the majority need such that much space and want to devote it to shows to such a degree. :)

Of course, ymmv.

This is true! I might be being a bit over Kill here! Maybe 256GB would do me fine in the long run, after all it's double my current 128GB iPad Pro 1st gen.
 
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No just the series from iTunes :) I do have other TV shows as well, it's probably overkill to have them all on my iPad when I have fiber internet at home, but it's just in case the internet goes down!
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This is true! I might be being a bit over Kill here! Maybe 256GB would do me fine in the long run, after all it's double my current 128GB iPad Pro 1st gen.

Having set up a Plex server recently, my mobile footprint on the iPad is much less now.

I dunno if/when I'll be getting the Pro2 12.9...but I'm starting to consider 256gb model to be very adequate (for me) and I never thought I'd be saying that. :)

Especially since I keep my devices for so long. There's also a part of me that doesn't want to reward Apple (for their half-hearted efforts to better the iPad) and don't see why I should splurge on the 512gb model.
 
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The 14 days return policy may help in this case. Try out and monitor your usage and then decide from there

Sidenote: While wanting to stick to a budget is a good way to being responsible, sometimes knowing when to push boundaries for long term benefits and knowing what other (hopefully short term in this context!) sacrifices you can make for this is too an important part of adulthood!
 
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No just the series from iTunes :) I do have other TV shows as well, it's probably overkill to have them all on my iPad when I have fiber internet at home, but it's just in case the internet goes down!
Lol, got a Plex Media Server/mini-Netflix for when internet goes down. :D

One of the reasons I still bring a laptop plus mobile router with me on long vacations, 4TB media server. Local storage on my iPad is practically dedicated to manga and comics and maybe a handful of videos. :D

One of these days, I'm gonna get an Nvidia Shield TV and test how well it works as Plex Media Server.
 
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Lol, got a Plex Media Server/mini-Netflix for when internet goes down. :D

One of the reasons I still bring a laptop plus mobile router with me on long vacations, 4TB media server. Local storage on my iPad is practically dedicated to manga and comics and maybe a handful of videos. :D

One of these days, I'm gonna get an Nvidia Shield TV and test how well it works as Plex Media Server.

Whoa a portable 4TB media server? How do you create that?
 
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The 14 days return policy may help in this case. Try out and monitor your usage and then decide from there
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Because there no waste involved in that, and Apple can afford it! I always make my purchase decisions after buying the product.
 
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Because there no waste involved in that, and Apple can afford it! I always make my purchase decisions after buying the product.

Yep! Apple wants customers to be happy and be very sure that the products serve their needs according to the staff I spoke to
 
It is a great Apple Pencil but expensive at the same time, if you don't use it daily or at least regularly then it probably won't be worth it. If don't store any music or TV shows/movies on your iPad or do anything thet takes up a lot of space like using Affinity photo editing tools or iMovie then you'll probably be more than happy with the 256GB.

I've given myself until Monday to make my decision , at the moment I'm leaning towards 512 and pencil later

Add the pencil later...the main thing to get the storage right. 256gb should be adequate for most people.

Do you take it outside the house, trips, etc where you need to have movies/media on it?

Keep in mind that most will have this device of 3-4 years so size accordingly. But 256gb is a good median.

I'm gravitating towards the pencil later option... I'm hoping that the iPad will suffice as my travel computer, it would be nice not to have to carry a laptop 15" MBP. I'm starting to believe that 512 is the better option , but as you say 256 is a good median.

A lot easier to buy a Pencil afterwards, than it is to try and stick another 256GB in the iPad afterwards :)

I'd hate to get to 256 and realize that I would only be at 50% if only I had chosen wisely lol

The 14 days return policy may help in this case. Try out and monitor your usage and then decide from there

Sidenote: While wanting to stick to a budget is a good way to being responsible, sometimes knowing when to push boundaries for long term benefits and knowing what other (hopefully short term in this context!) sacrifices you can make for this is too an important part of adulthood!

Would the 14 day return policy apply to the pencil? If it does then I'll,wait until I'm in the think of my project , buy it, see if I use it and after 10 days decide if it stays o if it goes back to become a reburbished bargain.

Being an adult sucks, life is backwards lol

Unless your someone who downloads all those shows on the iPad, I've gone back and forth with the idea of a 256GB or 512GB, I download TV shows and films to my iPad and the 512GB will enable me to have all the episode of Game Of Thrones on my iPad :)

Last season !


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Thanks you all for taking the time to reply.... it is proving helpful
 
Hi OP,

yes, the 14 day return applies to the Pencil (and any accessories you buy with the iPP).

Some excellent advice above.

I have the 256gb WiFi 12.9" and I think I've still got almost 200gb free (some movies, not many extra apps and my art doesn't take up much space. I am constantly deleting movies and things so this is a good storage size for me. )

Your present decision sounds like a good fit for you. Whatever you go with, enjoy your iPP.
 
Thanks! I didn't know there are 2.5" 4 TB HDDs in the market! Sounds like something I can consider if I have a bit more cash lol
I think Seagate actually has 5TB now. They're pretty inexpensive. Iirc, I paid around $110 per drive for my 4TBs during some sales last year (I use them for offsite backup to the Synology server).
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I'm gravitating towards the pencil later option... I'm hoping that the iPad will suffice as my travel computer, it would be nice not to have to carry a laptop 15" MBP. I'm starting to believe that 512 is the better option , but as you say 256 is a good median.

I'd hate to get to 256 and realize that I would only be at 50% if only I had chosen wisely lol
Personally, I went with the 512GB model this year. I have a 256GB Pro 9.7 and it just gave me a message that I should switch iCloud Photo Library to Optimized because I was running low on storage. I have less than 20GB in the iCloud Photo Library but I do store tons of manga and comics (DRM'd comiXology stuff) locally on my device.

I do agree, the Pencil, you can always buy later. Adding local storage to the iPad, not so much. Hence, if you're unsure whether 256GB will be enough I'd opt for the bigger storage for safety.
 
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At the beginning of my iPad search, I actually almost went with the 64GB version as I'd had no problem with my old iPad and iPhone at the same sizes.

I don't have the need to store a bunch of entertainment or media all at once as I stream mostly from my own Plex server and other services, and I'll eventually delete comics once I've read them (they're so easy to re-download at a moments notice.) Almost all of work my related documents and files are in services like Google Drive. There's almost no need for me to store anything on the iPad.

What pushed me to go bigger was this: I'd not paid much attention to iPads over the last few years, but looking into them again, I saw how much potential they have for both photo editing and video editing, something I would use it for. That's when I went for the 256GB; so I could load a bunch of working video and photo files.
 
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Would the 14 day return policy apply to the pencil? If it does then I'll,wait until I'm in the think of my project , buy it, see if I use it and after 10 days decide if it stays o if it goes back to become a reburbished bargain.

Being an adult sucks, life is backwards lol

The 14 day return policy applies to any Apple products I think, if buying from the Stores, ask the staff to confirm. My side did ask if I wanted to return my Pencil with the iPad Pro (found 64GB too limiting) though

And hey, adulthood may be crap but then again, there's a lot to look forward to! ;)

I think Seagate actually has 5TB now. They're pretty inexpensive. Iirc, I paid around $110 per drive for my 4TBs during some sales last year (I use them for offsite backup to the Synology server).

That will be about 150 SGD per drive, which is really cheap for 4 TB drives! Maybe I should consider them as my ultra-portable backup, get those multiple drive enclosure or something
 
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