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jm31828

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No, only when having tabs open in Safari (they reload on 3-4GB RAM device pretty often, not so much on devices with more RAM). Most typical example when it's annoying is youtube (I don't use the youtube app, because Safari allows me to watch youtube ad-free for free). Open videos stay open where I left them on M1 most of the time.
Also what is heavy multitasking on an iPad? An iPad for the most part cannot run backgrond apps like desktops, and I don't use split screen because it's cramped, let alone Stage Manager, which is pretty bad at this stage.
So my only "heavy" multitasking is moving from app to app and from tab to tab. And that's where at some point things start to reload... That's the only difference.
But other than that the 2018 is virtually just as smooth and is actually lighter, so more pleasant to hold.
Thanks! Yeah, I guess with multitasking I was thinking of the split screen, with two "beefy" apps such as maybe an Adobe app and something else trying to run at once- but your point makes sense, this isn't going to be as much of a "thing" as it would be on a desktop.
 

1984power

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Hello everyone,


I started a thread with a similar subject just yesterday, didn't find this one when I searched.

I’ve also been looking at a 12.9-inch iPad Pro, and considering both the 3rd generation (2018) and the 4th generation (2020) models. The 4th gen has 6GB of memory. I’ve wondered if the additional memory means no excessive reloads and, now, no app reloading in Stage Manager also.

I would mainly be viewing three ou four PDF documents (about 60 pages each) with PDF Viewer and working on Swift Playgrounds. Stage Manager will be useful to me sometimes, maybe with Swift Playgrounds, Safari and Music simultaneously, for example. I will probably be using either Affinity Designer or Photoshop in the future, so I’m interested in knowing how they do with some more demanding apps.


How frequently does the 3rd gen reload apps and Safari tabs? Does it reload apps when using Stage Manager too?
Is the 4th gen’s performance improved in these situations, thanks to the 6GB of memory?
I would appreciate it a lot if someone who has had experience with one of these (or both) could share their thoughts.


Thanks in advance.
 

SoYoung

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Just curious, in what circumstances are you noticing the RAM difference- only when heavy multitasking?
I don't know for devices with 8GB of RAM (both my M1 and M2 devices have 16GB), but for iPhone and iPad with 6GB or less RAM have frequent tabs and app reload if you use more than 2-3 apps or tabs. The M1 iPad never reloads anything, that's why it's so amazing and I can't wait to have an iPhone with at least 8GB of RAM because of this.
 

Christopher Kim

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I still have my 2018 11" iPad Pro (256gb / 4gb ram) and it still runs great. I use it primarily as a web-browsing / media-consumption device, so CPU/GPU performance wise I have zero issues. The RAM does lead to more app-reloading (I see this the most in Safari with tabs-reloading when I have multiple open) but for me, this is a small issue.

Given the form factor and screen are the same as the most recent 2022 M2 iPP (for the 11"), I think picking one up today at a big discount would be really good value if your use case doesn't push CPU/GPU/RAM.
 

1rottenapple

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Hello.
Does anyone here have an iPad Pro 2018? And if so, how happy are you with it in 2022/almost 23?

I may have a chance to get one quite cheaply but if it’s deemed unusable nowadays then I’ll skip it.
I would mainly use it for stuff like GoodNotes, Word (with Magic Keyboard), maybe some GarageBand (although I prefer that on a lap- or desktop), and the odd and fairly simple Procreate project.

Ultimately, I would get it for the size (12.9”) rather than the sheer power.
We have both 12.9 and 11 2018 pros. With light to medium use it’s fine. We don’t edit videos or anything. He’ll even the m1 iPads are not even pushed by the os so I bet the iPads will last at least until 2026. Our battery is still pretty good I don’t notice a huge difference.
 

MPclk2006

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Hello.
Does anyone here have an iPad Pro 2018? And if so, how happy are you with it in 2022/almost 23?

I may have a chance to get one quite cheaply but if it’s deemed unusable nowadays then I’ll skip it.
I would mainly use it for stuff like GoodNotes, Word (with Magic Keyboard), maybe some GarageBand (although I prefer that on a lap- or desktop), and the odd and fairly simple Procreate project.

Ultimately, I would get it for the size (12.9”) rather than the sheer power.
Depends on how it has been treated by previous owner. It's a 2018 pro so I'd look at what new features recently released are not available for that model and make a decision if that makes it "unusable" for me. For instance, there are features my 2020 cannot do from new update (reserved for M1 and up models) but I don't mind it so to me mine works great with zero issues, but someone else might deem it "unusable" if they cannot have those features.
 

1984power

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If someone has experience with both the 3rd and 4th generation iPad Pro, especially with app and content reloading
with and without Stage Manager, due to 4 and 6GB of memory, please share your thoughts. It would help me decide which one to get.
 

1984power

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Depends on how it has been treated by previous owner. It's a 2018 pro so I'd look at what new features recently released are not available for that model and make a decision if that makes it "unusable" for me. For instance, there are features my 2020 cannot do from new update (reserved for M1 and up models) but I don't mind it so to me mine works great with zero issues, but someone else might deem it "unusable" if they cannot have those features.
What do you think about the memory management with your 4th generation's 6GB of RAM?
Does it reload apps and content frequently, using Stage Manager or not?
 

MPclk2006

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What do you think about the memory management with your 4th generation's 6GB of RAM?
Does it reload apps and content frequently, using Stage Manager or not?
I honestly have zero issues with my iPad but I don’t have a huge workload on it. I’ve used stage manager but not enough to give you accurate review. Depending on the amount of work you will be doing I don’t see how a 2018 or 2020 iPad Pro wouldn’t be enough. For specifics I’d just compare stats between that and a new one and decide if the extra is worth the extra $ you’ll spend.
 

BanjoDudeAhoy

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Thanks for the replies, everyone :)

I now got the iPad - not the exact config I would have liked but it's fine. It's the 64 GB variant (instead of 128) but since I save most of my stuff in the cloud and/or on external drives anyway, AND this not my only device, I'm one of those seemingly rare specimen who can get by with that storage.

I own other iPads as well, and I'm somewhat surprised to see how they all seem to have a pretty distinct use case.
 

FeliApple

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Thanks for the replies, everyone :)

I now got the iPad - not the exact config I would have liked but it's fine. It's the 64 GB variant (instead of 128) but since I save most of my stuff in the cloud and/or on external drives anyway, AND this not my only device, I'm one of those seemingly rare specimen who can get by with that storage.

I own other iPads as well, and I'm somewhat surprised to see how they all seem to have a pretty distinct use case.
Congratulations!! Let us know how you find it!
 

1984power

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Thanks for the replies, everyone :)

I now got the iPad - not the exact config I would have liked but it's fine. It's the 64 GB variant (instead of 128) but since I save most of my stuff in the cloud and/or on external drives anyway, AND this not my only device, I'm one of those seemingly rare specimen who can get by with that storage.

I own other iPads as well, and I'm somewhat surprised to see how they all seem to have a pretty distinct use case.
Great! Share your experience with its performance when you have the chance. Does Stage Manager perform well?
 

BanjoDudeAhoy

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Great! Share your experience with its performance when you have the chance. Does Stage Manager perform well?
Congratulations!! Let us know how you find it!

After a couple of days of using it work both work and personal stuff, I can say it’s great. The battery doesn’t seem to last quite as long as on my M1 iPad Air but take that with a grain of salt as
a) it’s a 4 year old device after all - Coconut Battery says it’s at 91.6% of its original capacity
b) I need Edge/Chrome and Slack for work and I have no idea how optimized they are. Facebook messenger for example I know drained the battery on my old 3rd gen iPad Air.

Apart from the apps mentioned, I used Safari, GoodNotes, Word, Excel, played some Apple Arcade games and did some simple stuff in Affinity Photo. I don’t see a noticeable difference between the 2018 iPad Pro and the M1 iPad Air, tbh.

Regarding Stage Manager, it feels a lot more useable on the bigger screen than on the ~11” iPad Air, that’s for sure. It performed great in my “tests”. Once again, with the same apps as mentioned above. I had Word and GoodNotes in one group together as well.
Personally, I’m still not a huge fan of it, but I can at least see that it’s useful on this screen size.

The camera on the back sucks, though. Then again, if Apple were to offer this camera as an optional update for $200 extra or something, I would opt for the camera-less iPad every time. I just don’t need a camera on the backside on a tablet. Front-facing is a different story, that’s useful, obviously.


I’m a huge fan of iPads in general but to me the 12.9” takes it to a different level again. There are still things I can’t do on an iPad or that I simply prefer doing on a Mac. But the iPad Air already took a good chunk out of my screen time on my MBA and I predict that the 12.9” will just follow that trend.
In the future I would absolutely consider buying a brand new 12.9” Pro and spec’ing it out a bit. I just hope they stick with the current design a while longer because the Magic Keyboard, while great, is just too damn expensive when bought new.

I hope that helps but if you have any other specific questions, I’m happy to have a look :)
 
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