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iPad Pro iPad Pro M1 Confirmed so next year we get OLED and M2 ?
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Why OLED? Mini-LED is the successor to OLED because it doesn't suffer from burn-in, but still has the crazy contrast ratio...
Mini-LED is more like a stopgap in between LCD and OLED. OLED allows for true blacks by turning off individual pixels. It also helps to save a lot of battery life when using dark mode. Mini-LED cannot do that.
There are other advantages to Mini-LED besides lack of burn-in.
If Ming-Chi Kuo is right, the iPad Pro will remain mini-LED next year, while the Air gets OLED. However, the Air with OLED is more my speed, that is if it gets Face ID. Mind you, I'd be happy enough with Watch unlock, since I already have an Apple Watch, so strictly speaking I won't need Face ID after next week.
If it isn't clear by now, it should be. Mini LED is the future. Apple won't move backwards to OLED, except on the iPad Air due to the lower cost of OLED.
This is first gen mini LED and it already has 1,600 nits and 2,500 dimming zones.
This is first gen mini LED and it already has 1,600 nits and 2,500 dimming zones.
Nah, I don't agree with that either. The Pro is being tailored for creatives, and mini-LED addresses certain issues that OLED can't handle at the moment in that context.
However, probably for a larger chunk of the population like myself, OLED would actually be preferred. There is no need at all for a 1600 nit display for a primary consumption iPad (with a little creative productivity thrown in), but the black levels on the Air would still beat the Pro. A creative would be working his/her magic on multimedia content in a room with proper lighting, and needs that 1000 nits for proper editing, whereas someone like me watching Apple TV+ in a pitch black room would be better off with OLED.
IOW, if the Air gets OLED next year, along with 5G, I'd actually prefer that over the Pro, even if it the Air has a much slower SoC and less RAM. I don't think it will get Face ID either, but as long as I have Watch unlock, I'm golden.
Plus mini-LED is moot for me anyway, as it's not in the 11" size I want.
Mini LED is actually the first step towards micro LED, which will be the end of OLED other than for low priced products. It will be interesting to see how this new iPad Pro screen looks and performs. Excited to get mine next month.
Micro-LED is a LONG way off. Don't count on seeing it in an iPad of any sort in the next 3 years.
And no, mini-LED isn't really the next step to micro-LED as they are quite different technologies. Basically mini-LED production utilizes updated LED manufacturing equipment, whereas micro-LED requires a complete revamp.
The 2022 MacBook Air is getting mini LED and I don't think those users are creative professionals or have a need for 1,600 nits. In my opinion, Apple wants to offer the best display overall and mini LED is it, even though it costs more than OLED.
The iPad Pro and iPad Air are clearly intended as notebook substitutes, and the Air is getting OLED next year. So I doubt there are any issues with OLED image retention. The MacBook Air is getting mini LED but iPad Air is getting OLED. The MacBook Air costs more and that's seen in the display.
I'm not saying OLED has no advantages, but this is first gen mini LED. We're already seeing 10,000 mini LEDs and 2,500 dimming zones. Whatever "black level" advantage OLED has, it's quickly being lost.
Yeah, same. I don't understand why they didn't put it in the 11" iPad Pro.
We shall see.
However, I will point out that cheap consumer OLED easily bests the Apple Pro XDR display for black levels. As in no contest. Yes, the iPad Pro 2021 will have a much more dense array of dimming zones than the Apple Pro XDR, but I suspect it will still suffer the same black level issues to an extent, because of the design of mini-LED. But for that market, it isn't a big issue because that's generally not how creatives would use their iPad Pros. It's more an issue for those of us who prefer to watch content in the dark.
A cheaper iPad Air with OLED? Why would I bother getting a Pro if it actually performs worse in that regard? Even it's a vast improvement over current Pros, OLED is the gold standard for black levels. I personally don't care about 1000 nits in my consumption devices.
I'm thinking they might the next time around.
I guess so. Key word "guess".
But if the Air gets OLED (and 5G), I'd just buy that. I assume I won't need Face ID anymore because I have an Apple Watch. I'd be reasonably happy with 6 GB RAM.
But then again, maybe I'll just buy nothing. I've pivoted to working at home, and this may continue beyond the pandemic period, which means I have less justification for an upgrade to my iPad Pro.
I didn't say micro LED was coming soon, in fact I said mini LED was a FIRST step towards micro LED. Nor was I talking about it being the same technology. I was more talking about the shift in screen technology that Apple is making. I understand that micro LED is still a technology in early stage development, but even if we're talking about it taking 5 years before seeing it on the market, that's nothing in the big picture of what Apple is working on for future product and technologies.
For comparison, OLED would have had 16785408 dimming zones compared to the measly 2500 in miniLED. This few zones probably means the screen is uniformly lit in everything except when displaying HDR.
OLED also has an advantage of being thinner than LCD. The 12.9" got 0.5mm thicker this year because of miniLED.
The main downside would be burn-in/degradation. Don't know if they can match the 1000/1600 nits brightness but iPhone 12 Pro currently has 800/1200 nits which is close.
OLED also has an advantage of being thinner than LCD. The 12.9" got 0.5mm thicker this year because of miniLED.
The main downside would be burn-in/degradation. Don't know if they can match the 1000/1600 nits brightness but iPhone 12 Pro currently has 800/1200 nits which is close.
We don't know that. The battery got a 11% increase in capacity this year.
Some interesting information:
www.techradar.com
Micro LED TV: the premium display tech explained
Will Micro LED take the crowning spot for premium TV technologies?
What about just hitting the space bar when the keyboard is attached?
That’s how it works on my iMac with Apple Watch.
Yeah, maybe if you can wait until 2026.
Also, OLED displays can turn individual pixels off (unlike Mini-LED). That allows for true blacks and much better battery life.