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iPad Pro iPad Pro M5 16GB is an animal (benchmark)
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Peoples chose their computing devices because it suits them best. Ridicule other people choices seems out of place. Your view on iPad seem to stem from inability to accept other ways to use a computer. Perhaps a caged mind?
In my book a too fast computer does not exist.
I was replying humorously to the comment that the original poster bought an iPad to play Angry Birds. The original comment was an obvious joke because the humor being that don't buy an iPad just to play any iPad – just any 20-year-old device will do.
Naturally, written language doesn't allow jokes and sarcasm to easily come across, but you are expected to pick this kind of nuance.
The point stands that except for drawing and maybe 3D sculpting, there isn't much ONLY an iPad will do (i.e, that justifies purchasing it instead of a competitor's tablet or a Macbook Pro).
There’s so much overlap now between different types of computers, the opposite is also true. For most users, there’s not a huge incentive to spend a bunch of money on a MacBook Pro when a cheaper iPad can do what you need it to.
I can think of a few:
- more versatile overall (better operating system).
- Related to this first point: not artificially restricted to prevent running virtualization solutions or emulators.
- Can run Windows if needed.
- Can run regular Microsoft office and Photoshop (not just stripped down versions).
- Comes with integrated keyboard if needed for more complex workflow.
- Better SD card support.
- Better external filesystem support (iPad's writing speeds on external file systems is SLOW).
- Bettter Bluetooth support
- Better mice support.
I do wonder how much the non-geek cares about any of those things. Many people just work out of a web browser these days.
The iPad certainly isn’t the tool for everything (like programming), but I find that for general computing and content creation, the iPad has been more than enough for awhile. I don’t ever see myself buying another laptop.
That's not the best line of reasoning either. Non-geeks who "just" want a tablet will want a cheapo Android tablet for content consumption. For most of them, it would be inadmissible to spend $1,000 on a single tablet.
That's absolutely true, but it's also true that a Macbook is far from an iPad replacement, and this apply to the iPad pro too. And it's not just the pencil, it's the form factor (try using a Mac while standing) and the apps (try having streaming offline or some app only features on a Mac). Most iPad apps are not available on Macs unfortunately
you know "/s"???
Tool choice varies and not for you to judge. Some just prefer iPad over Macs. Like personal preference for clothing, cars, food and everything else in life. These endless arguments that Mac is better than iPads (and vice versa) are meaningless and tiresome.
We are speaking from an objective point of view. By comparison, if you prefer a 286 for writing your journals and your argument is just that "you feel better with it," then there is nothing I (or anyone, for that matter) can say or discuss. And if ALL boils to personal preference, then a FORUM is pointless (by definition, an ONLINE FORUM is a place where we exchange ideas and discuss them).
So, naturally, I shouldn't need to say that my judgement is trying to be as objective as possible. And from an objective point of view, any device will do to play Angry Birds. I can't do much if you feel so offended by this.
Maybe, but there are alternatives for almost everything the iPad has, and specifically for PRODUCTIVITY, they're usually better on notebooks. IMHO the exception is precisely Procreate, but it only applies for traditional painting simulation (e.g, it could be used for Pixel Art, but Aseprite is much better for this sort of workflow).
But notice you are conflating two different workflows here: content consumption and productivity. While the iPad CAN be used for both of them, these two workflows tend to attract different audiences at different price points. And if I'm using my iPad for productivity, then definitely I will not want to use it while standing (in general, I wouldn't ever want to run around standing with a $1,000 device).
Indeed MacOS and Windows a better for productivity although productivity is something that can be different for different people. But before you did not mention productivity so I assumed you meant "there is little an iPad can do that a Macbook cannot do better" which I disagree with, without limiting this to productivity. At least as Macs are now. Macs could take iPad uses cases if they became convertible devices (you cannot just add Apple pencil support), became much lighter than they currently are (and when you make a convertible the thing becomes heavier, not lighter), and get cellular support. Essentially what Windows already does, regarless of preferences for one OS or the other (of course this website is biased towards Macs). And even then, they should support mobile apps, something that developer have to agree with (which I doubt in most cases) for those additional features like offline content or app esclusive content that is not available on the desktop equivalent (for me it's far from being almost everything) or is simply better on mobile.
As for why so much power when they are inferior for productivity question you asked earlier, most people don't buy because of power, that's a bonus, people buy the pro because of screen, speakers, sometimes RAM, sometimes storage. Putting an iPad air SOC vs a pro one wouldn't change the price in any meaningful way. So it's not what makes the price of the pro anyway.
Quite honestly, I've held a Macbook air and it's very, very light. Apple Pencil support could be added with either a touch screen and/or a screenless touch device sold separately. It wouldn't be that hard to add.
Screenless touch tablet is a terrible idea, I got one once, never again. What's great about the iPad is that you can write or draw on the screen. The only MacBook that is light enough to be a tablet I want to carry with one hand is the Retina Macbook for me. Or something like my Thinkpad nano. But YMMV
Not even full desktop-class browsing. iPadOS Safari is still a blown up mobile browser, unlike Safari on macOS.
"objective" according to whom? If the iPad does the job and the user prefers it, it is objectively the best choice for that user. Computers* have moved beyond the spec sheet comparisons long time ago (thanks to Apple).
If you want to discuss, stick to the topic which is that the M5 is spectacular, also for iPad (Pro). If you do not need the M5 capabilities in an iPad, let those who do discuss. MacOS has no place in this discussion.
Back to the topic:
A too fast iPad do not exists and performance in hardware always comes before new app capabilities so I expect better apps and we see them in terms of more high end games and sufficiently capable creative tools. Even Blender wants to make an iPad app (https://projects.blender.org/blender/blender/issues/142345). Octane render has an iPad app and that is compute intensive with no upper limit. Hm, we need larger iPads
*A computer defined as a unit that can execute custom app installable by the user which includes smartphones, tablets. laptops, desktops etc.
As a user of of both IPad Pro and Macbook Pro (both a little outdated, m4 and Intel respectively), I can say that while I enjoy both, and they both serve different purposes, if I was stuck in a coffee shop on a deserted island my device would be the iPad pro. And not to stoke the flames on the fire but a big part of my reasoning is that OLED display on the IPP which no Macbook currently has... but like I said, I'm fairly neutral when it comes down to it.
Actually, if we're being completely honest, my deserted island device is my kindle. But that's a little off subject.
Objective according to the cost-benefit metric. And you have no bigger authority than anyone else here to decide what should be discussed or not.
It seems you are more concerned about looking good and defending the idea that the iPad is the best tool ever for productivity rather than discuss the issue critically. I have an iPad and I do like it for drawing, but it clearly has flaws and is not the best device for every task, regardless of subjective opinion. This defensiveness simply is what prevents users from complaning and have Apple improve devices in the first place.
It would make more sense because the Kindle could last over a month with a single battery charge. You wouldn't be able to recharge your device for quite a while. Although you would be limited to reading, of course.