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These iPads are gonna stall Mac sales; people will put them off until M4 variants come out (IMO) in larger numbers

No reason at this point to pay top dollar for verified old tech

(I say this as someone happy as heck with my M2 15" Air I got in the fall last year)
You’re right. I was thinking of upgrading my base M1 Pro 8/14 and to an M3 Pro or Max, but now I’ll def wait.
 
Apple was talking about Neural Engine with 38Trillion calculations per second. But QC Snapdragon X Elite claim that their chip can handle 45 Trillion operations per second! Apple did point out that they had Neural Engine since A11 Bionic but what's the point if they can't even get Siri to work properly?.
 
Apple was talking about Neural Engine with 38Trillion calculations per second. But QC Snapdragon X Elite claim that their chip can handle 45 Trillion operations per second! Apple did point out that they had Neural Engine since A11 Bionic but what's the point if they can't even get Siri to work properly?.
Siri is not Apple AI. It’s like saying what’s the point of Nvidia when their chat bot app doesn’t work well.
 
You will be waiting for more WWDC. If you are expecting iPad OS to morph in to Mac OS, I doubt it will happen any time soon. It’s been going on for past 8-10 WWDC.
Already going against the grain of my previous statement lol. I am not expecting anything, but I never mind being pleasantly surprised.
 
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The industry, in general, is running into the same issue.
AMD isn’t. Look at their Zen processors. Granted, they don’t release a new one each year, however they get >10% IPC gains each time without fail. They are in fact due to repeat this with Zen 5 in Q3. I am not knocking Apple, the M series chips are incredible. I am just very curious what they plan to do next.
 
I knew an M4 was eventually coming. What I didn't know was that the base M4 would be faster than my M3 "Pro" not very Pro like of my M3.
The M4 is only faster than your M3 Pro in single core. It’s still slower in multi-core. That happens in every generation as the improvements in the base cores is where the improvements are focused.
 
Apple was talking about Neural Engine with 38Trillion calculations per second. But QC Snapdragon X Elite claim that their chip can handle 45 Trillion operations per second! Apple did point out that they had Neural Engine since A11 Bionic but what's the point if they can't even get Siri to work properly?.
All those claims mean little without the context of exactly what they are measuring.
 
Apple was talking about Neural Engine with 38Trillion calculations per second. But QC Snapdragon X Elite claim that their chip can handle 45 Trillion operations per second! Apple did point out that they had Neural Engine since A11 Bionic but what's the point if they can't even get Siri to work properly?.
Check back next month
 
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I hope there aren't two variants on Mac like there are on iPad... stats like those in this thread are already misleading because they belong to the "full fat" M4 rather than the gimped one that 99% of people will end up with in the iPad Pros.
Uh, hate to break this to you…
 

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Now that Apple allows emulators in the App Store, VMWare or Parallels needs to develop one so that we can run Windows or MacOS on these things.
I know it not the same. But I replaced my Windows laptop with an M1 Pro and use Windows via RDP to a desktop box. I used to carry two decives everywhere, but when they added mouse support to iPad OS I was finally able to make the leap and cut down to just my iPad on vacations, business trips, etc.

I would love to make the jump to the new M4 iPad, and in fact, I had fully planned to, but now I'm holding out to see what WWDC brings. I'm hopeful for a hybrid MacOS/iPad OS. I still use the Apple Pencil for markup, so I can't ditch the iPad completely and go MacBook, but I do long for better file management, windowing, etc.

If we could do MacOS emulation on this, it would solve all my issues and I would be upgrading as we speak.
 
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AMD isn’t. Look at their Zen processors. Granted, they don’t release a new one each year, however they get >10% IPC gains each time without fail. They are in fact due to repeat this with Zen 5 in Q3. I am not knocking Apple, the M series chips are incredible. I am just very curious what they plan to do next.
Not sure where Apple will go next (unless losing a lot of silicon designers to Nuvia did hurt them a little) but this post is interesting

 
I'll skip the iPad Pro "limitations" comments as we've had enough of those...

It will be interesting to see what they deliver on the "AI" front next month though. They've packed a lot of power in the iPhone 15 and iPad Pro for this so it better be good.
 
Cue all the "it's too much power for such a limited OS" comments.
While your comment is tongue in cheek, the criticism is true. But, my commentary to the criticism, though is that we've had a Desktop / Laptop replacement tablet for over a decade in the x86 MS Surface Pro tablets. More recently, SΛMSUNG DeX has been a thing for the better part of a decade. And neither have lit the world on fire, much less, amount to anything other then a rounding error.

Someone prove me wrong. I don't see Apple being the one "holding back" because Microsoft and Samsung have proven the concept to be nothing more then a niche.
 
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Not sure where Apple will go next (unless losing a lot of silicon designers to Nuvia did hurt them a little) but this post is interesting

Interesting reading that ..... there have been a couple of tech content creators who have recently called out the various test components that make up a geekbench score. It's about how the number is derived and does the final "higher score" necessarily mean an improvement in specific areas that your workload would benefit from.
 
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All that power in the engine of the car and the wheels are elliptical. Next design should be a headless MacBook and and iPad attachment. Attach the iPad for macOS and remove for iPadOS. Even if it’s expensive I’d buy one. But for now having many iPad pros and MacBooks I’ll still use my MacBook all the time. And yes Apple is still the best products period. Just that the iPadOS is really pathetic when it comes to that last 10% of real work being done on it.
I'm not arguing explicitly arguing against an iPad Pro being able to "dual boot" or whatever - But, if there was more then niche appeal - wouldn't the x86 MS Surface Pro tables running desktop Windows made in roads, dented iPad sales, or taken the world by storm?
 
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