Exactly this. iPad apps are being ported over to Macs due to them both sharing the same ARM processors, eventually Mac apps will be granted the same opportunity.
I wouldn’t go so far as to say next year, but I think it’s evitable.
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I wouldn’t go so far as to say next year, but I think it’s evitable.
No it isn’t, Apple is moving away from AppKit and UIKit towards swift UI - the only way legacy mac apps are coming to iPadOS is if they port AppKit over and I just dont see that happening. Bringing UIKit to the mac was a no brainer, bringing AppKit the other way is far less likely.
Yep. For Apple, the easy way to get more full featured versions of desktop apps is to allow Mac App Store on the iPad as @LogicalApex and @Ludatyk mentioned. They’ll require mouse/trackpad and keyboard, of course.
Granted, I don’t know what the app selection is like on the Mac App Store. Does it at least have the commonly used programs (e.g. Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Microsoft Office, Adobe)?
People are judging Beta-1 pretty harshly, like it's a Gold-Master or Public-Release. Everyone should be submitting feedback in addition to complaining on MR. Considering how 15 fixed some big usability issues with 14's split screen, I'm expecting Stage-Manager on 17 to fix any outstanding usability issues on 16. The fact that Stage-Manager works in portrait already fixes one of my remaining issues with Split-Screen, especially on the 11" iPads.
But if your main complaint about Stage-Manager is that it doesn't duplicate MacOS' Finder exactly, I doubt you will be happy until Jailbreaking or Sideloading allows MacOS itself; so you should probably get comfortable while you wait for that. If you are going to wait for the Jailbreak, don't upgrade your iPad to 16, or if you already have, stay on 16.0.
I'll give Apple time to figure it out because I expect changes and refinements before the Public-Release. Its not like I can't use Split-Screen on 16 if I really hate using 16's Stage-Manager.
But if your main complaint about Stage-Manager is that it doesn't duplicate MacOS' Finder exactly, I doubt you will be happy until Jailbreaking or Sideloading allows MacOS itself; so you should probably get comfortable while you wait for that. If you are going to wait for the Jailbreak, don't upgrade your iPad to 16, or if you already have, stay on 16.0.
I'll give Apple time to figure it out because I expect changes and refinements before the Public-Release. Its not like I can't use Split-Screen on 16 if I really hate using 16's Stage-Manager.
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It does have Office because I downloaded those apps there. But it’s not a huge store like the iOS/iPadOS App Store.
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it doesn't have any of that, it's kind of a wasteland, no better than the old Windows Store
I agree, although MS Office apps are on the Mac App store. Otherwise it has some things like Parallels desktop for example
The 30% fee is to blame the most I think.
Isn't that what Mac Catalyst is for? The onus is ultimately still on developers to adapt and optimise their Mac apps for the iPad. Short of literally arm-twisting the devs into doing so, I am not sure what Apple can do at this juncture.
I doubt Parallels will ever work on iPad unless the iPad can run MacOS, which will never happen.
Yes, the 30% is one of the reasons why developers don't see a point in using the store, when users can download the app from their website....
Yeah it is. Stuff like Stage Manager may make this easier since it is supported on both Mac and iPad.
Fjordstróm made a great video about external monitor support and Stage manager here
Right, and I don’t understand why this feature doesn’t exist on non-M1 iPads, separately from Stage Manager.
It seems that Stage Manager can fullscreen apps on an external display that don’t fullscreen without Stage Manager. I haven’t seen any technical explanation for that disparity.
Because Stage manager, not iOS itself, is what is being displayed on the screen. I think Apple should have also extended iOS to an external screen better, but they didn't. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, they wanted to simplify and only have one external screen environment, or if you're cynical its because they wanted to encourage upgrades. But iOS does display on external displays, but as a mirror and not full width.
It seems that we are in agreement, i.e. there doesn’t seem to be an inherent technical reason that would prevent iPadOS on non-M1 iPads to run the same set of apps fullscreen on an external display that Stage Manager is able to run fullscreen. Regarding mirroring, iPadOS could as well show an app fullscreen externally and mirror it back with black bars on the iPad, similar to how shiftscreen does in the following picture:
Shiftscreen is pretty good but its still a single app being mirrored to the display. While there are utilities like calculator, everything else is browser based. But yeah I think Apple could have enabled some external display support outside of stage manager. While it gets rid of black bars on the external display, it ironically adds them to the iPad, especially in split screen.
