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CactusHawk

macrumors regular
Oct 9, 2009
144
2
Not sure I could classify you as a genius for the idea. But I can give you props for starting a thread that does not involve AT&T:D
 

Blorzoga

macrumors 68030
May 21, 2010
2,560
66
This has to be the dumbest idea I've ever heard. I hope the original poster doesn't drive cause once he puts the car in reverse, look out, he may not know left from right.
 

ciaran00

macrumors 6502
Mar 11, 2010
463
1
Horrible idea.

Leave my static hw controls alone. They're in hardware and static for a reason - I can always depend on them working exactly in the same way.

My brain can do the gravity math. Can't yours?
 

cohenben

macrumors member
Original poster
Dec 19, 2008
44
0
Midwest
What about people like me who knows that when the iPad is upside down, the volume controls will be, too. I then hit the top button to turn down the volume but it goes up. Now I'm the one who has to learn that a button functions differently based on how the device is oriented, rather than the way every other physical button works in the world which does the same thing regardless of how it's positioned.

At the same logic, are you still complaining they took away your click wheel from the iPod? I don't get you people who are arguing against what is a clear and obvious advance in iThing technology.
 

mrkgoo

macrumors 65816
Aug 18, 2005
1,178
3
The volume switch doesn't really have an orientation. The fact that the 'increase volume' button is above the 'decrease' when in portrait orientation is largely incidental.

Think about the iPod touch which has the same volume clicker, yet when in your pocket, the device is 'upside-down'. You wouldn't expect that control to change. It's unintuitive.

To have hardware buttons flip and switch function is counter productive.
 

HelveticaNeue

macrumors 6502a
Apr 24, 2010
642
51
I assume the poster is having a bit of fun here with what I assume must be mock arrogance over the greatness of his terrible suggestion. The only point I will add to this debate is that the poster suggests this "advancement" will assist people because he believes (pretends to believe?) that others like him find it confusing that when you turn the iPad 90 degrees counter-clockwise the Volume Up button is on the left, yet the on screen controls have the volume increasing as it is moved toward the right. However, this is ridiculous as more people (everybody) would be bewildered why the button that made the volume increase a moment ago now decreases the volume.

By the way, did you really come out of a 17 month hibernation (your last post being Jan 09) for this?
 

CarboysDesire

macrumors 6502a
Jun 9, 2008
818
276
Las Vegas
How many times do you accidentally lower your volume instead of raise it, or vice-versa? ALL THE DANG TIME, right?!


Not once in 3 years have I ever done this.



This reminds me of the time I thought I was going to be rich by designing LARGER ketchup packets. You know...cuz the existing ones are so small you need several to get enough ketchup for your french fries. I was 8 though.
 

cohenben

macrumors member
Original poster
Dec 19, 2008
44
0
Midwest
The volume switch doesn't really have an orientation. The fact that the 'increase volume' button is above the 'decrease' when in portrait orientation is largely incidental.

Think about the iPod touch which has the same volume clicker, yet when in your pocket, the device is 'upside-down'. You wouldn't expect that control to change. It's unintuitive.

To have hardware buttons flip and switch function is counter productive.

Okay, people, this is the big one. I'm going to EXPLODE YOUR MINDS with an ANALOGY. I know how much you iLovers love analogies (iphones are like bathtubs, ipads are like swimming pools, blah blah blah...). So, here is the analogy that will surely win you over.

If I push the foot of my bed against the wall (and switch the headboard, too, for those of you lucky enough to have a headboard) - so now the pillow side is suspended mid-room... do I then move the pillows to the other end of the bed? Or do I leave the pillows at what is now clearly the foot of the bed and sleep "upside down?"

For the same reason, the orientation of the volume controls should move! Boom! My analogy is so awesome that you pretty much have to agree with me. Because if you disagree with my volume improvement, it's like you admit that you would sleep upside down!

And before I forget - I'll mention it again. iPhones and iTouches should get the same treatment. And if you don't like it, Steve-o and company should just put a little opt-out button in the settings that says "Sleep upside down - Yes or No."

By the way, did you really come out of a 17 month hibernation (your last post being Jan 09) for this?

Yes. See you in another year and a half - when volume controls re-orient themselves and I'm watching re-runs of The Cosby Show on my 3D Apple TV.
 

fjfjfjfj

macrumors 6502
Mar 20, 2009
327
140
New York, NY
Am I genius about to give away a billion dollar idea? I don't care - I just want this implemented.

When I rotate my iPad (or iPhone, for that matter), why didn't Apple design things so the volume controls automatically reverse — in other words, the volume adjustment becomes intuitive no matter what direction I hold the device? The volume controls should reverse themselves based on the screen orientation.

How many times do you accidentally lower your volume instead of raise it, or vice-versa? ALL THE DANG TIME, right?!

Boom! Fix it please, Steve-o.

Maybe this has already been discussed previously, and I know this forum is not a direct channel to get these things moving - but I was wondering if this idea has already been discussed or if I'm somehow a clairvoyant gadget user? How can I get a job testing gadgets at Apple - I've got about a million more of these. I could not find anything in google or the local forums about this.

I get it and totally love the idea. These are the types of little ideas that make Apple gadgets so thoughtful.

(I guess you should be able to turn the feature on and off in the settings for those who don't like the idea).
 

Blorzoga

macrumors 68030
May 21, 2010
2,560
66
Okay, people, this is the big one. I'm going to EXPLODE YOUR MINDS with an ANALOGY. I know how much you iLovers love analogies (iphones are like bathtubs, ipads are like swimming pools, blah blah blah...). So, here is the analogy that will surely win you over.

If I push the foot of my bed against the wall (and switch the headboard, too, for those of you lucky enough to have a headboard) - so now the pillow side is suspended mid-room... do I then move the pillows to the other end of the bed? Or do I leave the pillows at what is now clearly the foot of the bed and sleep "upside down?"

For the same reason, the orientation of the volume controls should move! Boom! My analogy is so awesome that you pretty much have to agree with me. Because if you disagree with my volume improvement, it's like you admit that you would sleep upside down!

And before I forget - I'll mention it again. iPhones and iTouches should get the same treatment. And if you don't like it, Steve-o and company should just put a little opt-out button in the settings that says "Sleep upside down - Yes or No."



Yes. See you in another year and a half - when volume controls re-orient themselves and I'm watching re-runs of The Cosby Show on my 3D Apple TV.

Two things: what is so "lucky" about having a headboard and it's called an iPod touch, not an iTouch
 

dvmierlo

macrumors newbie
Apr 12, 2018
2
0
Am I genius about to give away a billion dollar idea? I don't care - I just want this implemented.

When I rotate my iPad (or iPhone, for that matter), why didn't Apple design things so the volume controls automatically reverse in other words, the volume adjustment becomes intuitive no matter what direction I hold the device? The volume controls should reverse themselves based on the screen orientation.

How many times do you accidentally lower your volume instead of raise it, or vice-versa? ALL THE DANG TIME, right?!

Boom! Fix it please, Steve-o.

Maybe this has already been discussed previously, and I know this forum is not a direct channel to get these things moving - but I was wondering if this idea has already been discussed or if I'm somehow a clairvoyant gadget user? How can I get a job testing gadgets at Apple - I've got about a million more of these. I could not find anything in google or the local forums about this.
It’s January 2021, and still my iPad Pro 2020 still has this annoying behaviour. I cannot believe that none at Apple has bothered to address this issue.
 
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