No doubt if Apple had included a camera/webcam you would be praising them for it. Fanboys make baby jesus cry.
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iPad with camera?. To all those complaining, it's time you thought about it a little
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No doubt if Apple had included a camera/webcam you would be praising them for it. Fanboys make baby jesus cry.
No doubt if Apple had included a camera/webcam you would be praising them for it. Fanboys make baby jesus cry.
Is it inconceivable to you that some people don't want a built in webcam?
IMO it shouldn't be included on laptops or desktops either and Apple does that.
It is a novelty mainly used by teens for sexting.
I use Skype every now and then for video communication for work. Depending on where I am, I use the camera in my MBP or the old iSight I dug out and plugged into my Mac Pro. Such a camera in my iPad would be occasionally useful to me since I anticipate using that device more than my MBP on the road and I'd just as soon they included it.
Is it inconceivable to you that some people don't want a built in webcam?
IMO it shouldn't be included on laptops or desktops either and Apple does that.
It is a novelty mainly used by teens for sexting.
First of all - sexting is text messaging - or even using MMS with pictures. But that's irrelevant...
I have no idea where you're getting your "statistics" but you're wrong. It's not a novelty. It's been put on laptops and desktops because it's not a novelty and people have come to expect that they'll be included. And why? Because millions of people use them to communicate for both personal and business.
In your opinion indeed. I'm glad you're not "in charge" or even the opinion major.
Again - arguing against having a camera is like arguing against flash, more memory, better processor, better battery, etc. It's not inconceivable that people wouldn't want a camera. But by the same token - if you don't want one - don't use that function. I don't use 1/2 the functionality I would imagine of the iPhone. That doesn't mean I would take anything off.
Apple - if you will PLEASE forgive the expression - cripples their portable devices enough - why cripple it further when it doesn't have to be.
A silly discussion. Whether or not it's comfortable for you or anyone else to use, that doesn't mean it has no place in the device.
I'd like to see some stats on how many people actually use built in webcams on laptops. If it is 10%, why should 90% have to to pay for something they don't use?
This is easily something that could be OPTIONAL. I don't like paying for extra crap I will never use.
If people were arguing that Apple should have a camera OPTION for those that want it, I would agree 100%.
I will be getting an iPad day one, but I don't get this argument for the omission of a camera.
I currently have a Vaio UX, that I got from my place of work. Noone was using it so I took it home to play around with.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...y?productId=8198552921665246465&storeId=10151
Being a UMPC it is a bit limited in its use, but it has made a perfect couch companion. I especially have loved Video chatting over skype with my friends. Keep in mind I am video chatting while holding this thing in my hand, and have had no problems with comfort or complaints from the person on the other end. I feel the iPad would work the same, and be quite comfortable to hold and video chat.
I think a webcam does and could work in a handheld device like this, not sure why some people thinks it would be unusable.
I currently have a Vaio UX, that I got from my place of work. Noone was using it so I took it home to play around with.
http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...y?productId=8198552921665246465&storeId=10151
Being a UMPC it is a bit limited in its use, but it has made a perfect couch companion. I especially have loved Video chatting over skype with my friends. Keep in mind I am video chatting while holding this thing in my hand, and have had no problems with comfort or complaints from the person on the other end. I feel the iPad would work the same, and be quite comfortable to hold and video chat.
I think a webcam does and could work in a handheld device like this, not sure why some people thinks it would be unusable.
I'd like to see some stats on how many people don't use their built in webcams on laptops. If it is 10% - why should 90% of the people not get something they use?
And extra cost? are you kidding me? For materials - you're talking a VERY low cost. Would apple charge more for it - no - because they include it in their other products as part of the overall cost.
They aren't going to have options for with or without cameras. That's not their history. They will add a camera in a future generation and from then on, all of the iPads (for example) will have it.
Back to costs - the iPhone 3GS didn't cost more because it added a camera.
I don't use bluetooth - but I have to pay for it. Why should I have to pay for your bluetooth?! Silly "argument"
Every additional optional part increases the BOM. If you tack on $25 worth of additional parts, in the end this is going to increase retail price by $30-$40 to maintain margins.
As far as 3GS not increasing because of the camera. What is the retail price of 3GS without subsidies? How many other parts decreased in cost over time?
Bottom line, more parts cost more money. There are no "free" add-ins. To think you get more parts at no cost is truly silly.
Do you actually want a camera on an iPad for your personal use or are you just looking for another excuse for bashing it?
The increase in cost is marginal. I believe the camera in question is MAYBE $3-$5 in actual costs. And Apple wouldn't break their pricing structure based on that amount. So you don't have to concern yourself with the rising cost of an iPad with a camera. If Gen 2 sees higher costs - it won't be just because of a camera. It would be because of many other improvements like processor, memory, and other higher priced items. The camera is negligible.
And yes - one of the reasons (just one) for not buying the iPad AS PRESENTED at the keynote is lack of camera. For many reasons/apps that I enjoy using.
ETA: And stop using hyperbole. "Bashing" the iPad. Where do I BASH it? Am I bashing it because I've stated I don't want one in its current form or that I find certain features lacking? That's not bashing - that's constructive and/or flat out criticism.
Bashing would be if I said the iPad was crap and no one would even need one, etc. I've said quite the contrary.
+1 vote. And thank you. I personally thought about it quite a bit, and I absolutely want a camera on my iPad. But I'll still be buying the one without it.
An OPTIONAL camera would be something new for Apple; none of their products make such a thing optional.
Apple has made a point of bashing PCs (non-Apple PCs anyway) for...ummm... monitors that don't include a camera?
Anyhow, I don't expect that Apple will ever offer an optional camera unless it is bundled with other relevent options (like 3G or 4G).
I was quite upset that the ipad doesnt have a camera mainly because I wanted something where I could travel easily with and quickly connect to Skype to see my wife and kid while on the road. I'll still get an ipad but hope that there could be an add on camera of some sort, which I think would be better than a built in cam. An add on would allow for a tilt/swivel where you could set the ipad down and chat, as oppossed to holding it up.....
you need to read the most recent post on the MR homepage. Looks like iPad was designed to have a camera the whole time. Upsetting to me that Apple has all the technology and space to put a camera in the iPad now, but they'll wait to release it in ipad 2.0 just to generate more sales. How frustrating.
Besides, I could easily see having a comfortable video chat on an ipad with a forward facing camera. It's not like you would be standing up with arms extended in front of you trying to hold the ipad still the whole time. You'd be sitting in a chair (maybe a couch?), probably at a table and you would rest the bottom of the ipad against your lap/table and it with one or both hands at the top or middle of the bezel. I didn't see any valid points in your post...
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/2...era-camera-flash-zoom-and-video-conferencing/
Besides, I could easily see having a comfortable video chat on an ipad with a forward facing camera. It's not like you would be standing up with arms extended in front of you trying to hold the ipad still the whole time. You'd be sitting in a chair (maybe a couch?), probably at a table and you would rest the bottom of the ipad against your lap/table and it with one or both hands at the top or middle of the bezel. I didn't see any valid points in your post...
https://www.macrumors.com/2010/02/2...era-camera-flash-zoom-and-video-conferencing/
Exactly. with the accessory provided by apple you can easily put it still on a table. Anyway, there are traces in new iPhone SDK that shows they are actually implementing it. Look how nice it can be with a camera
http://bestmac.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/camera.png
Personally, I'm waiting to see how long it will take some hardware geek to get one of the MacBook cameras working in an iPad. If they left in the hardware mounts, they might have left in the circuit board interface.
What i don't get is why did Apple put a camera in the iPod Nano and not in the iPad, i mean come one but i really don't care about that anyway.