iPadOS 15 is the buggiest OS Apple has ever released

[gwhizkids]

Man these are basic things even android can handle many, is not a niche thing nor a pro thing to ask. You remind me of people that where defending apple for not having cut/copy/paste lol you also forget this iPad has literally the same M1 chip as the MacBooks and and other ‘full computers’ From apple. Can you tell me ipad can do that android can’t as a standalone device?

What you are missing is that this is not a defect in iPadOS…its intended. Apple clearly has made a choice (to this point, at any rate) to not make the iPad into a Jr. Mac. That’s even more evident with the advent of the M1 in the iPad Pro line. You may not like that design decision, but that’s the one Apple has made.

 

[thadoggfather]

Gosh how do you pull up card tiles for all the open webpages on compact tabs ipados15?

I cannot for the life of me figure it out

 

[jonnyb098]

Gosh how do you pull up card tiles for all the open webpages on compact tabs ipados15?

I cannot for the life of me figure it out

Either switch out of compact tab view and a button will appear in the upper right OR open up the sidebar on the left and you’ll see the four square icon there.

 

[orionquest]

Meh usage experience will vary completely from user to user, so it's almost impossible to pin down what is best worst. But don't worry there is another yearly update coming up soon, so you can do this dance again. I refuse to be on the latest and greatest and stay 1 update behind so I can just do 1 large update, and few small patches if they come up.

I really wish Apple would get rid of yearly updates and focus on core patches of areas of the iOS, MacOS etc.

 

[thadoggfather]

Meh usage experience will vary completely from user to user, so it's almost impossible to pin down what is best worst. But don't worry there is another yearly update coming up soon, so you can do this dance again. I refuse to be on the latest and greatest and stay 1 update behind so I can just do 1 large update, and few small patches if they come up.

I really wish Apple would get rid of yearly updates and focus on core patches of areas of the iOS, MacOS etc.

I don't think yearly updates are the issue so much as just garbage QA.

Even from one smaller update to another, same major IOS, results can widely vary.

For being a 'software centric' company first (that has great hardware too, but Steve's words) the software is transient disposable consumable trash.

 

[jonnyb098]

I don't think yearly updates are the issue so much as just garbage QA.

Even from one smaller update to another, same major IOS, results can widely vary.

For being a 'software centric' company first (that has great hardware too, but Steve's words) the software is transient disposable consumable trash.

Not necessarily true. If a team Is spread thin (and lots of rumors lately that they are), then the rush to get yearly updates ready takes precedent over fixing bugs. The easiest remedy is to have more resources and a massive way to do that is just lay off the yearly update cycle (aside form adding support for new devices).

 

[addamas]

Testers can point bugs but they are not fixed ASAP, same as beta testers and users. Somehow Testers don’t have anymore possibility to veto the update.

Everybody knows that bugged software is more expensive for company than good product.
I am aware that developers hates to fix bugs and prefer making their beautiful new babies called new features but c’mon
Feature Owner / Project Owner is forcing the updates and throwing fixes for next releases which causes even more bugs.

But it‘s done everywhere, I remember pointing out many critical bugs in my tester’s life and rarely they were fixed in a month… some were touched after a year… because release is more important than happy customer… every fckin time.

 

[orionquest]

For being a 'software centric' company first (that has great hardware too, but Steve's words) the software is transient disposable consumable trash.

Well Apple's marketing is working on you! They have always been a hardware company. Software is just nice marketing, and Apple does a great job of sucking you into the hardware by leveraging software and features. Siri is a prime example. It's basically a useless feature but everyone know's about it.

If you look at Apple's OS's the fundamentals they work well enough, but there is a ton of features they never completely finish or improve on. Then it's off to the next round of updates and eye popping features and you are left with a bloated buggy mess. I can see why people are calling for a snow leopard type release to nail this stuff down. I would like it if they fixed networking shares but it's not sexy or marketable. So we'll get some other dumb feature on how to organize your desktop icons instead.

 

[Carlanga]

What you are missing is that this is not a defect in iPadOS…its intended. Apple clearly has made a choice (to this point, at any rate) to not make the iPad into a Jr. Mac. That’s even more evident with the advent of the M1 in the iPad Pro line. You may not like that design decision, but that’s the one Apple has made.

So then you don’t expect any new features for the iPad forever? i never asked for macOS on the iPad, I want simple use functionality.These are basic usability things not niche things, by that train of though you don’t use cut/paste on your iOS devices right since it was intended not to have them?

 

[Paddle1]

It's clearly not 15. It's your apps, and how you have things set up. Like it has been stated several times now a bug or poor coding would effect every single user. A error in code can not only effect a hand full or one user. Other apps, a bad setting, a corruption in a old file or anything can duplicate your problem. It's user error.

? That's not how bugs and glitches work. They don't have to affect everybody nor do they have to be caused by something the user did.

 

[I7guy]

[...]Siri is a prime example. It's basically a useless feature but everyone know's about it.
[...]

FWIW. Useless to you maybe, but useful to me.

 

[UTS]

Since ipados 15.4 i ( think) and certainly 15.4.1 on my ipad air 3 i cannot get rid of the cookies message on image searches on safari. Just reappears and sometimes i get two of the blasted messages.

 

[gwhizkids]

So then you don’t expect any new features for the iPad forever? i never asked for macOS on the iPad, I want simple use functionality.These are basic usability things not niche things, by that train of though you don’t use cut/paste on your iOS devices right since it was intended not to have them?

No. I just don’t expect Apple to make the iPad into a Mac. I’m sure they’ll add many new features. Those features will not alter its essential nature as “not a laptop”, though.

 

[Carlanga]

No. I just don’t expect Apple to make the iPad into a Mac. I’m sure they’ll add many new features. Those features will not alter its essential nature as “not a laptop”, though.

So printing two pages into one or saving a web page are things only macs can handle?

 

[gwhizkids]

So printing two pages into one or saving a web page are things only macs can handle?

Don’t be deliberately obtuse: Of course not (not to mention that your statement is not even accurate; an iPad can easily save a full webpage as a PDF). But there are Mac “traits” that Apple has chosen not to extend to an iPad, such as providing the iPad with an inferior file manager. That was done intentionally.

A Chevrolet Malibu and a Chevrolet Corvette are both cars. Yet General Motors chooses not to provide the Malibu with a powertrain and other enhancements that would enable it to match the Corvette’s top speed (131 mph vs 205 mph). GM certainly has the technical chops to drastically increase the Malibu’s top speed (after all it also designs and manufactures the Corvette). But if it did so, all it would be doing is making a Corvette-like Malibu, when what it really wants to do is make a Malibu-like Malibu.

So, too, with Apple: it has shown for over 20 years that it can make a quality laptop (with the latest models likely being the epitome of that effort). Thus, its abundantly clear (to me, at any rate) that Apple has consciously decided not to imbue the iPad with certain MacBook-type attributes because it does not view the iPad as a MacBook-type laptop, but rather as its own discrete mode of computing: a hybrid consumption/content creation device. As a result, Apple has made certain design decisions regarding the iPad that are consistent with that view and equally inconsistent with the iPad simply being a low-end MacBook-line device.

You may not like that decision for one reason or another, but that’s the decision Apple has made to this point.

 

[Carlanga]

Don’t be deliberately obtuse: Of course not (not to mention that your statement is not even accurate; an iPad can easily save a full webpage as a PDF). But there are Mac “traits” that Apple has chosen not to extend to an iPad, such as providing the iPad with an inferior file manager. That was done intentionally.

A Chevrolet Malibu and a Chevrolet Corvette are both cars. Yet General Motors chooses not to provide the Malibu with a powertrain and other enhancements that would enable it to match the Corvette’s top speed (131 mph vs 205 mph). GM certainly has the technical chops to drastically increase the Malibu’s top speed (after all it also designs and manufactures the Corvette). But if it did so, all it would be doing is making a Corvette-like Malibu, when what it really wants to do is make a Malibu-like Malibu.

So, too, with Apple: it has shown for over 20 years that it can make a quality laptop (with the latest models likely being the epitome of that effort). Thus, its abundantly clear (to me, at any rate) that Apple has consciously decided not to imbue the iPad with certain MacBook-type attributes because it does not view the iPad as a MacBook-type laptop, but rather as its own discrete mode of computing: a hybrid consumption/content creation device. As a result, Apple has made certain design decisions regarding the iPad that are consistent with that view and equally inconsistent with the iPad simply being a low-end MacBook-line device.

You may not like that decision for one reason or another, but that’s the decision Apple has made to this point.

Your comment tells me you either don’t own an iPad or you have never saved a webpage as pdf on the iPad. It doesn’t work, it cuts off parts, messes pages up on the pdf and more. It’s basically unusable on most instances.

 

[gwhizkids]

Your comment tells me you either don’t own an iPad or you have never saved a webpage as pdf on the iPad. It doesn’t work, it cuts off parts, messes pages up on the pdf and more. It’s basically unusable on most instances.

Incorrect on both counts. But thanks for playing.

 

[papbot]

Your comment tells me you either don’t own an iPad or you have never saved a webpage as pdf on the iPad. It doesn’t work, it cuts off parts, messes pages up on the pdf and more. It’s basically unusable on most instances.

I save full page pdfs on my ipad all the time. Easy to do and doesn’t cut anything off. On occasion after taking the screenshot the full page option is not displayed. Force quitting Safari and then returning to the page taking another screenshot gets the full page option back. That’s the only issue I’ve run into but easy to resolve.

 

[gmsegalla]

I've had a ridiculous amount of bugs since upgrading my iPad Pro 12.9 M1 to 15.5 - enough that I made an account here to discuss any possible fixes. I waited for quite a while to upgrade as 15.4 was working well with Universal Control, which is the main reason that I bothered with the beta this year. After updating my 2017 MBP however, UC lost compatibility and I was forced to update the iPad as well. I have been literally plagued with bugs, with everything from the iPad becoming completely unresponsive (including the buttons so I couldn't even shut it down), to connecting AirPods crashing the iPad altogether. It makes the device almost unusable at times, which is especially bad as I have been using it as my main computer. I am perfectly ok having to deal with bugs as I know that the software is obviously not complete, but the fact that it gets worse in EVERY update is absolutely painful.

 

[Homme]

This is nothing compared to iOS 8 on iPad 2, OG iPad Mini and iPad 3

 

[gwhizkids]

I've had a ridiculous amount of bugs since upgrading my iPad Pro 12.9 M1 to 15.5 - enough that I made an account here to discuss any possible fixes. I waited for quite a while to upgrade as 15.4 was working well with Universal Control, which is the main reason that I bothered with the beta this year. After updating my 2017 MBP however, UC lost compatibility and I was forced to update the iPad as well. I have been literally plagued with bugs, with everything from the iPad becoming completely unresponsive (including the buttons so I couldn't even shut it down), to connecting AirPods crashing the iPad altogether. It makes the device almost unusable at times, which is especially bad as I have been using it as my main computer. I am perfectly ok having to deal with bugs as I know that the software is obviously not complete, but the fact that it gets worse in EVERY update is absolutely painful.

I would reference the thread at the link below for help, not this one, which is a “complainer” thread.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-15-5-beta-3-bug-fixes-changes-and-improvements.2342974/

I would also try doing a reset and restore of the OS, if possible, using the IPSW install file for iOS 15.5 beta 3. You’re having way more problems than you should. Make sure you make an encrypted backup before doing this and restore from that. If the problems persist after doing this, you might do a fresh install and reinstall your apps one at a time.

 

[SYCAMOREGRAD]

I disagree.
iOS 11 was worse because it only ran ok on iPhone X‘s, but was running terribly on every other iPhone and iPad.
macOS Mojave was worse, in that it was a buggy mess for everyone using anything from a MacBook Air all the way to the top of the line iMacs and MacBook Pro‘s.

All that aside, I of course agree with you. iPadOS is limiting because its feature set is lacking, and stability/quality is laughable. What’s an iPad „Pro“ worth if it doesn’t run either software that allows professionals to use their device to its fullest potential, nor make normal use seamless or issue free? It’s nothing more than a glorified iPod Plus without a headphone jack, might as well be used as a chopping board.

But, considering we haven’t heard (m)any rumors about iOS/iPadOS 16 or macOS 13, I expect them to be issue-fixing-focused updates. Usually when it seems Apple has abandoned something they actually did or they are working on an update for it.
And I don’t see them quitting software.
Here is hoping ??

Yes, iOS 11 was a $hitfire. iOS 12 was really nice. I wish they’d just do new features one year, refining the next year each time. Had hoped iOS 14 would fix the almost-as-nightmarish iOS 13.In the old days, iOS was fine tuned to the iPhone on which it premiered. iOS 7 was excellent on the 5S, for example. Idk why this has a strike through Hope ios16 is a refinement!

 

[Reggaenald]

Yes, iOS 11 was a $hitfire. iOS 12 was really nice. I wish they’d just do new features one year, refining the next year each time. Had hoped iOS 14 would fix the almost-as-nightmarish iOS 13.In the old days, iOS was fine tuned to the iPhone on which it premiered. iOS 7 was excellent on the 5S, for example. Idk why this has a strike through Hope ios16 is a refinement!

Yeah iOS 7 was great on the phone it was introduced alongside with, but it eventually crippled the iPhone 4, like iOS did with the 4s. I really hope iOS 16 will be more stability and bug focused, too, but also that iOS 15 will continue to get better as I don’t see the A9 iPhones, SE, 6s and especially the 6s Plus, to get iOS 16, that’s just would be the 4s story all over again.

 

[jaduff46]

Theyre not bugs they’re features /s

Undocumented features, AKA performance anomalies! LOL