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Other iPhone 15 is so underwhelming. Could Apple excite with iPhone SE 4?

OrenLindsey said:
They NEED to put at least an OLED screen in it. The XR screen is horrible. Also, when they do the SE gen 4, it should be based off of the iPhone 13, not the iPhone XR (which was based off the X). Just give it the new rounded edges but keep the smaller notch.
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Well, that would just be the iPhone 13.

In that case, why would Apple even release a new iPhone SE 4 instead of keeping the iPhone 13 on the shelf?
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
I beg to differ.
If all of the rumors are true, we should be getting:
•6.1 Inch 60 Hz OLED
•Notch
•iPhone 13/14 era design with squared off edges.
•Single camera
•A15 or A16 chip
•64GB starting storage
•USB-C (2.0)
•at least $429 price, although I wouldn’t put it past them to bump it up to $499
• release date sometime in 2024/2025, 2025 looking more likely at this point.

Given that a 128GB iPhone 13 can be found for $599 from Apple or cheaper elsewhere, I don’t understand why anyone would wait for an SE2, especially when a price increase is a very real possibility.
Plus the 13 will have two lenses (while this is not rumored to come to the SE.
Outside of USB-C, I don’t see the benefit.
Especially when 12s and 13s are pretty much the same price a hypothetical 2025 SE would be. You’re waiting for pretty much nothing.
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If the iPhone SE 4 has all those features, I would expect a significant price increase, which pretty much defeats the purpose of Apple keeping the iPhone SE line.
 
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It's 2023, you have 120Hz OLED screens in $200 phones. Considering that if Apple does release an SE 4 it will be at least double $200, then they can afford to put in a 60Hz OLED.
 
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When was the last time someone was genuinely excited by an SE?

SE uses the mainstream form factor from two generations ago. The SE2 came out the year iPhone 12 was launched. It still has a 7MP front camera. The chip used to be the strongest selling point. But given the mainstream iPhone 14 and 15 models use n-1 chips, the SE4 will likely be n-2.
 
JPack said:
When was the last time someone was genuinely excited by an SE?

SE uses the mainstream form factor from two generations ago. The chip used to be the strongest selling point. But given the mainstream iPhone 14 and 15 models use n-1 chips, the SE4 will likely be n-2.
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Anyone with a $429 budget.

If money wasn't a limitation sub-$429 Android users would likely go iPhone.

This is why many use device ownership as an indicator of annual income and even wealth.
 
Abazigal said:
I don't understand how anyone can look at last week's keynote and think that Apple has somehow decided to just stop innovating altogether. Apple's strategy is pretty clear to me - launch new features exclusively on the pro models first and then eventually bring them to the rest of the iPhone lineup. This differentiation allows for lower-priced non-pro models, while also giving new features time to be supported by developers.

Apple products have always been about continuous refinement. As its products evolve, Apple pours ever more effort into incremental improvements in the details. Compared to the iPhone 14, the iPhone 15 gets dynamic island, A16, better display, better camera, usb-c, ultra-wideband chip, contoured edges and a colour-infused glass back. On their own, none of those improvements are revolutionary, but it’s a solid list of meaningful year-over-year improvements nevertheless.

And they do it every year. Apple has shipped a new phone for 15 years, and they will continue to do so next year, and the reason why Apple has the luxury of being perceived as boring is because every single year brings some form of improvement (both hardware and software) and these benefits accumulate over time, because they all build on not just the iPhone itself, but the rest of the ecosystem as well.

It's kinda like investing, where you save a little every month, but it all adds up over time due to the power of compounding interest. It's the same thing here. Apple has been using the iPhone to lay the groundwork for their AR/VR headset for years (starting from Animoji in 2017 all the way to the 15 pro's ability to record spatial video), the iPhone 15 gets features that debuted first in the 14 pro, and it's not hard to see features from this year's 15 pro max eventually trickle down to next year's iPhone 16.

And this is why Apple will continue to be successful. Because their unique definition of innovation (quality over quantity) is resonating with their user base more than ever. Moreso than folding screens, moreso than AI, moreso than whatever the latest tech buzzword of the week is.
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Well spoken!!
 
JPack said:
When was the last time someone was genuinely excited by an SE?

SE uses the mainstream form factor from two generations ago. The SE2 came out the year iPhone 12 was launched. It still has a 7MP front camera. The chip used to be the strongest selling point. But given the mainstream iPhone 14 and 15 models use n-1 chips, the SE4 will likely be n-2.
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Will apologise for if someone already commented this ‘cuz I haven’t read the whole thread yet. Well, a lot of iPhone customers are pretty happy for the SE’s along the years, since the point with them is that you get a good iPhone package to a fairly lower price (read still
more expensive then a lot of cheap phones). They get quite excited when the SE’s get updated and can keep them in the Apple eco system without sacrificing their right arm.
 
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