iPhone 15 Pro Geekbench Scores Confirm Apple's Faster A17 Pro Chip Performance Claims, 8GB of RAM

[svish]

Good to see the increased performance along with the increased RAM

 

[DavidSchaub]

Why is that hard to grasp? Apple’s product segmentation relies on the TDP envelope for differentiation. iOS work tends to be more “bursty”.

Exactly, that is why I said "The limited thermal/power envelope really should be representative in these numbers.".

Given the numbers, GeekBench is probably benchmarking a very bursty set of tasks, which isn't representative of other use cases. GeekBench really should add a separate score category for a "30 minute thermal limit" score.

 

[SIGSEGV1]

So no noticeable perf improvements. Just better camera

 

[chucker23n1]

Given the numbers, GeekBench is probably benchmarking a very bursty set of tasks, which isn't representative of other use cases. GeekBench really should add a separate score category for a "30 minute thermal limit" score.

Yeah. It's nice to have a simple number each for single-/multi-core, but I would appreciate if the benchmark could also run in a loop, and then give us a line chart of the numbers after 1/5/10/15/30 minutes.

The other thing Geekbench doesn't really tell us yet is different core tiers. In Apple's case, how do the p- and e-cores factor in? (I wouldn't be surprised if the e-cores have improved a lot, again, whereas the p-cores haven't.) In Qualcomm's, there's even three tiers now, and I vaguely recall Intel planning the same.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

I know some are a bit disappointed with the speed increases here though they aren’t bad. What isn’t talked about and is obviously a big focus for Apple is the Machine Learning part of the chip where they doubled the performance. They obviously feel this is where it makes more sense to invest in performance improvements.

I kind of agree as this can open new features and capabilities not possible before. There’s quite a few new software features being added these days that are driven by those parts of the chips. Things that might help sell more phones vs 10% more CPU performance on a phone that no one I’ve ever come across says is too slow.

Hey Siri, why do you still suck?

 

[FastLaneJB]

Hey Siri, why do you still suck?

You say that and lots of people seem to rave about Google Assistant but actually for me, Siri works far better, more of the time.

Not to say it cannot be improved but seeing as they are moving more processing for Siri on device, these improvements are what will help with this. See the Apple Watch, now can do some Siri commands when it’s no signal vs the previous generation.

All this new photo things like picking up people, pets and pulling out to stickers. It’s all those parts of the chip doing that work. I like that they do this all on device and not as part of a cloud subscription. On Google Photos it’s cloud based and for some of the more advanced features you’ll need a subscription to make it work.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

You say that and lots of people seem to rave about Google Assistant but actually for me, Siri works far better, more of the time.

Not to say it cannot be improved but seeing as they are moving more processing for Siri on device, these improvements are what will help with this. See the Apple Watch, now can do some Siri commands when it’s no signal vs the previous generation.

All this new photo things like picking up people, pets and pulling out to stickers. It’s all those parts of the chip doing that work. I like that they do this all on device and not as part of a cloud subscription. On Google Photos it’s cloud based and for some of the more advanced features you’ll need a subscription to make it work.

I'm not comparing Siri with Google Assistant, I'm comparing to the current freely available online AI offerings such as Chat GPT.

 

[chucker23n1]

I'm not comparing Siri with Google Assistant, I'm comparing to the current freely available online AI offerings such as Chat GPT.

ChatGPT/an LLM might be useful as a front-end to Siri, but it's not at all useful to replace it. It doesn't have any context to understand what "my living room lights" means.

 

[FastLaneJB]

I'm not comparing Siri with Google Assistant, I'm comparing to the current freely available online AI offerings such as Chat GPT.

I'm sure at some point this will vastly improve but remember a lot of the processing is done on the phone. My Siri usage is turning on and off HomeKit devices, setting a timer or an alarm, navigating to a destination and so on. It's pretty simple and it works well for this.

I don't ask it to explain Quantium Computing to me as if I'm an 8 year old but when they add Gen AI maybe it'll be able to do that also I mean you need to factor in that it's really quite expensive to run ChatGPT and it's unlikely to stay open and free indefinitely. I suspect as Apple grows the ML speed of their SoC's a more cut down version though might start to creep onto device. Hard to know if they'd want to provide all the cloud based compute for something like ChatGPT for free.

 

[_Spinn_]

Seems like a decent spec bump - especially with the hardware ray tracing.