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The SR-71 leaked because it was designed to leak. The titanium fuselage panels, including the fuel tank segments, were loosely fitted, with gaps, to accommodate the thermal expansion of the metal once the plane reached its high operating temperature. Once hot, the gaps were filled and the plane and its tanks were tight. Had the plane been designed without the gaps, thermal expansion would have warped the plane. They could not use rubber bladders in the tanks like in conventional planes, as those could not withstand the heat. The JP-7 fuel with its high flash point temperature was specially developed for the plane. Leakage on the ground was not dangerous and deemed an acceptable trade-off. The plane would get sufficient fuel on the ground to take off and warm up, and then receive a full fuel load in the air. The fuel leakage itself was not even the issue, as it did not leak that much; the problem was air getting into the tanks, creating an explosive fume mix that would have been dangerous at higher temperatures. Once the tanks were tight, refuelling them completely would vent out any air. To prevent fume buildup later on as the fuel got consumed, the tanks were continuously refilled from nitrogen containers aboard the SR-71, ensuring they had an inert atmosphere inside.


Ti-6AL-4V is by far the most common variant of titanium in everyday items. Watches, knife handles, golf drivers, entire bicycle frames are made of Ti-6AL-4V. It sure costs more than aluminium, but not so much to make it prohibitive for the consumer market. Besides, the titanium in the iPhones is just a millimeter thick. My little pocket knife probably has enough Ti-6AL-4V for five iPhones.

Besides, I doubt the titanium has much of a role in any overheating issues. Measurements show the iPhone 15 Pro going towards 50°C at peaks. That may be hot for a phone, but not for metals like titanium. Also, while titanium has less thermal conductivity than aluminium, it is much better than plastic or leather - so if a thin rim of thin titanium causes overheating, then phones in cases should have been overheating for years.
Thanks for actually responding to this. Haha. I got a little carried away from the hypbebole. At least now we both know what my favorite plane is :)

How fast am I moving in relation to ground? Hahaha...

It's the GPU causing the heat in the iPhone 15 Pro models....they probably had serious issues with thermal management during dev and decided to launch regardless.
 
The SR-71 leaked because it was designed to leak. The titanium fuselage panels, including the fuel tank segments, were loosely fitted, with gaps, to accommodate the thermal expansion of the metal once the plane reached its high operating temperature. Once hot, the gaps were filled and the plane and its tanks were tight. Had the plane been designed without the gaps, thermal expansion would have warped the plane. They could not use rubber bladders in the tanks like in conventional planes, as those could not withstand the heat. The JP-7 fuel with its high flash point temperature was specially developed for the plane. Leakage on the ground was not dangerous and deemed an acceptable trade-off. The plane would get sufficient fuel on the ground to take off and warm up, and then receive a full fuel load in the air. The fuel leakage itself was not even the issue, as it did not leak that much; the problem was air getting into the tanks, creating an explosive fume mix that would have been dangerous at higher temperatures. Once the tanks were tight, refuelling them completely would vent out any air. To prevent fume buildup later on as the fuel got consumed, the tanks were continuously refilled from nitrogen containers aboard the SR-71, ensuring they had an inert atmosphere inside.


Ti-6AL-4V is by far the most common variant of titanium in everyday items. Watches, knife handles, golf drivers, entire bicycle frames are made of Ti-6AL-4V. It sure costs more than aluminium, but not so much to make it prohibitive for the consumer market. Besides, the titanium in the iPhones is just a millimeter thick. My little pocket knife probably has enough Ti-6AL-4V for five iPhones.

Besides, I doubt the titanium has much of a role in any overheating issues. Measurements show the iPhone 15 Pro going towards 50°C at peaks. That may be hot for a phone, but not for metals like titanium. Also, while titanium has less thermal conductivity than aluminium, it is much better than plastic or leather - so if a thin rim of thin titanium causes overheating, then phones in cases should have been overheating for years.
As I have said this is likely to be related to the antenna I note score of reports citing hearing during wireless transfer or during 30minute telecons and titanium should dissipate any heat - if it was plastic you may not notice it as much but the internals would be more severely heated (oddly enough) both effects due to insulation

So I don't think it's the case and I am bemused it's a software matter apparently. With a 3nm that doesn't make much sense. So a software fix may reduce this but as it's metal it will always be apparently got and as it's 5G using higher frequency microwaves it's transmitter is more energetic and will always hear more.

A 10w 5G microwave transmitter after 30minutes of voice call will have placed 0.5Wh of Microwave radiation. As non ionizing radiation the effect of its photons is heat by the absorbing body and if it's metal? You'll feel.that more...
 
Is this going to be Apple's version of McDonald's hot coffee incident? An Apple iphone 15 pro/max user is going to sue Apple for getting 'burnt' due to the iphone overheating while it was on the users lap thus burning their leg.
 
Just wanted to come back and report that my iPhone 15 Pro has not overheated again and the battery life seems to have improved since the iOS 17.0.3 update 😊
 
Just wanted to come back and report that my iPhone 15 Pro has not overheated again and the battery life seems to have improved since the iOS 17.0.3 update 😊
Update on my end...just got done with a 30 minute call, completely cool to touch, no battery drain. In the past it was blazing warm.

Odd, if not negligent, to have such a huge impactful bug in something so simple, but glad 17.0.3 fixed it. It looks like I don't have to send the phone back, which is great, because otherwise the experience has been great.
 
It looks like I don't have to send the phone back, which is great, because otherwise the experience has been great.

Lol, that's how I feel. I really like this 15 Pro and I'm glad I don't feel the need to return it anymore.
 
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The SR-71 leaked because it was designed to leak. The titanium fuselage panels, including the fuel tank segments, were loosely fitted, with gaps, to accommodate the thermal expansion of the metal once the plane reached its high operating temperature. Once hot, the gaps were filled and the plane and its tanks were tight. Had the plane been designed without the gaps, thermal expansion would have warped the plane. They could not use rubber bladders in the tanks like in conventional planes, as those could not withstand the heat. The JP-7 fuel with its high flash point temperature was specially developed for the plane. Leakage on the ground was not dangerous and deemed an acceptable trade-off. The plane would get sufficient fuel on the ground to take off and warm up, and then receive a full fuel load in the air. The fuel leakage itself was not even the issue, as it did not leak that much; the problem was air getting into the tanks, creating an explosive fume mix that would have been dangerous at higher temperatures. Once the tanks were tight, refuelling them completely would vent out any air. To prevent fume buildup later on as the fuel got consumed, the tanks were continuously refilled from nitrogen containers aboard the SR-71, ensuring they had an inert atmosphere inside.


Ti-6AL-4V is by far the most common variant of titanium in everyday items. Watches, knife handles, golf drivers, entire bicycle frames are made of Ti-6AL-4V. It sure costs more than aluminium, but not so much to make it prohibitive for the consumer market. Besides, the titanium in the iPhones is just a millimeter thick. My little pocket knife probably has enough Ti-6AL-4V for five iPhones.

Besides, I doubt the titanium has much of a role in any overheating issues. Measurements show the iPhone 15 Pro going towards 50°C at peaks. That may be hot for a phone, but not for metals like titanium. Also, while titanium has less thermal conductivity than aluminium, it is much better than plastic or leather - so if a thin rim of thin titanium causes overheating, then phones in cases should have been overheating for years.
FUN FACT:
The SR-71 was actually named the RS-71.

During his public announcement revealing the project, Lyndon Johnson screwed up and misread it.
Skunkworks actually liked the way it sounded, and decided to go with the screwed up designation.
Don't believe me?
 
Is this going to be Apple's version of McDonald's hot coffee incident? An Apple iphone 15 pro/max user is going to sue Apple for getting 'burnt' due to the iphone overheating while it was on the users lap thus burning their leg.
Interestingly, the point at which skin burns can occur is actually surprisingly low – from 44 degrees C upwards (112F).
 
A week ago I had somehow turned on the video function and was recoding the inside of my pocket for about 7 mins.
Only noticed it when I sat down, the heat was something to behold.
 
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