This is pretty simple I fully expect Apple simply resurrects 13/14 mini frame +A16 and 8gb memory. I will be surprised if they make an entirely new size/frame for a parts bin entry level iPhone.
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Businesses would disagree that are bulk deploying handsets. We have ~1000 lines and most of them are iPhone SEs and or iPad 9th generations.
They can also remove the Plus and Pro models from their lineup and change it to SE, regular iPhone, Air and iPhone Pro max.
Not to mention that, once the iPhone SE 2025 (or iPhone SE 4th gen, or iPhone 16e) launches, it’s likely that Apple removes the iPhone 15 from the lineup, as it is two generations behind in terms of SoC, at a higher price point than the SE.
So, we’ll probably have the following iPhone lineup:
- iPhone SE4/16e
- iPhone 16/16Plus
- iPhone 16 Pro/Pro Max
All of them supporting Apple Intelligence. I’ve never seen such a simple and convenient iPhone lineup.
By incorporating the SE4, or 16e, they are lowering the entry price point (from 900€ to 600€ or less) to an Apple Intelligence powered iPhone, at the same time that they compete with the mid-range Android smartphone market and, most importantly, become more competitive in markets where an affordable price is important.
Do I think it will come with notch, or Dynamic Island? To be completely honest, I see both scenarios as possible. There are reasons for it to be a notched screen, in order to reuse the machinery and display production that BOE had for the iPhone 14, and if the size of the device matches the iPhone 12/13/14 dimensions, then I think a notch is very likely. Also, that way, they could differentiate better the lower end iPhone from the more expensive models.
However, I also see the possibility of Apple wanting to introduce the Dynamic Island on the SE4, which may be called iPhone 16e. That way, Apple could unify the UI across the lineup, along with Apple Intelligence. There were also some early rumors saying that the iPhone SE 4th gen could use the iPhone 15/16 body, something that has some sense if the iPhone 17 comes in a bigger size, so they could reuse the iPhone 15/16 chasis and production line. If the iPhone SE4 comes with the iPhone 15/16 design and dimensions, I see it likely to come with the Dynamic Island
However, I also see the possibility of Apple wanting to introduce the Dynamic Island on the SE4, which may be called iPhone 16e. That way, Apple could unify the UI across the lineup, along with Apple Intelligence. There were also some early rumors saying that the iPhone SE 4th gen could use the iPhone 15/16 body, something that has some sense if the iPhone 17 comes in a bigger size, so they could reuse the iPhone 15/16 chasis and production line. If the iPhone SE4 comes with the iPhone 15/16 design and dimensions, I see it likely to come with the Dynamic Island
Yes, you mentioned it in another post that we aren't too far away from the 17 series so 6 months with "only" A18 sounds like a logical path. Can't see that they will keep the 15 series when the new SE/16e is being released if the rumors about an A18 SoC is true
If only this were true! A nice, clean iPhone 16 looking handset without the silly action button and camera pad, no useless wide angle camera, and presumably even lighter than the 16.
I think they will use the Dinamic island because
- They can use the screen manufacturing process from 15/16 and eliminate the notch line entirely.
- This might not be a true "SE" but a new "e" line that will receive yearly CPU updates with no designs changes. Using a DI will feel more relevant with the rest of the line up.
- Customers will interpret the notch as "outdated"
- They can use the screen manufacturing process from 15/16 and eliminate the notch line entirely.
- This might not be a true "SE" but a new "e" line that will receive yearly CPU updates with no designs changes. Using a DI will feel more relevant with the rest of the line up.
- Customers will interpret the notch as "outdated"
I just want a new iPhone mini. I’d sell my 16 Plus so fast to get back on the mini train.
I just don’t understand. If you wanted a small and compact iPhone, then why did you buy an iPhone Plus instead of the regular one?
Also: there’s no iPhone mini coming anytime soon. I’m afraid 6.1” is the smallest diagonal we’ll see from now on.
Just to play devils advocate .. to whom is this lineup "simple & convenient"?
I miss just "iPhone"
Are we really going to be talking about:
"should I get iPhone 32?"
"Maybe consider iPhone 31 Plus SE Pro Max?"
"no no .. hold out for iPhone 33 Slim SE Air"
I miss just "iPhone"
Are we really going to be talking about:
"should I get iPhone 32?"
"Maybe consider iPhone 31 Plus SE Pro Max?"
"no no .. hold out for iPhone 33 Slim SE Air"
How many notch'd phones production lines still around to re-use?
The iPhone 14 is the last notch'd phone, but it's also the last Lightning phone. In Europe, they sell the iPhone 15 and iPhone 16, and no phones with a notch at all.
So the lowest end "parts bin" SE they could make today is based off of an iPhone 15 with Dynamic Island and USB-C.
It's easy.
Good - SE / E
Better - "Just" iPhone / Plus
Best - iPhone Pro / Max
Just want an iPhone, don't care about specs? SE. Want a better iPhone but don't want to shell out? Just iPhone. Nothing but the best for you? Pro / Max.
Just chiming in to say that this isn't true because the 14 is still in production and sold new in many other countries. The 14 would still be the "lowest end" (and technically, the lowest end would still be the same parts bin that the SE 2020 and SE 2022 are made from).
More production lines than you might imagine.
There is at least another 6-7 years before iPhone 14 is vintage, meaning parts remain in production for that long.
Even when an iPhone is no longer sold in Apple Store, it's still being made and sold in many parts of the world. For example, iPhone 7 (launched 2016) has still not reached vintage status, much less obsolete. This means parts are still in production.
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