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iPhone 16e Now Available for Pre-Order Ahead of February 28 Launch

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$635 USD in Canada ($899 CAD), plus local taxes for the base model. Here I was thinking Chinese tariffs sold in US might close the gap a bit on prices, but I assume wrong.
 
cwwilson said:
Can't wait to see the sales figures on this model. I reckon it'll outsell every "mini" iPhone that the vocal minority swears they were gonna buy but never did.
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I put this straight on Apple. They released the SE2, which I bought immediately. And then a few months later they released the Mini!

Had I know the Mini was coming, I would have bought that instead, but I'm not going to buy another device a few months after just buying a new one.

What were they thinking? Why would they release two small form factor phones in such short order? It totally cannibalized sales.
 
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$635 USD in Canada ($899 CAD), plus local taxes for the base model. Here I was thinking Chinese tariffs sold in US might close the gap a bit on prices, but I assume wrong.
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Ugh, over a grand total in Ontario 😡
 
I am so incredibly disappointed in Apple and this product. This has Tim Cook's grubby legacy all over it.

$600??? The entry level iPhone was $399. That's where it belongs. They raised it to $429 when pretending to be impacted by inflation, despite the windfall cash during COVID that completely offset inflation for a decade, but OK. Now, it goes up another $170, all the while saving costs by using their own in-house modem and removing MagSafe.

I say "removing" MagSafe, because the product design this is based on has included MagSafe for 5 years. It is a staple of iPhone. MagSafe is not supposed to be a premium feature. It was added because Qi charging sucks miserably without it. So I guess Tim Cook is OK with a sucks miserably experience as long as costs are in line.

Apparently the only goal here is to recoup the costs of developing the C1 with this product. Even though the only purpose the entry level iPhone should have is to get people into the iPhone ecosystem.
 
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I was really looking forward to ordering this but the price just keeps me from doing so. If I’m going $600, I’ll just pay a few more $$ and get a flagship.
 
🤣 at all the people paying full price for 128GB iPhone 16e when you can get it for almost 50% off and having to wait 60 days for unlock.

This will probably be $150 to $200 during the holidays.
 
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Before ordering I recommend to watch this very insightful information from Sam Tucker from Apple:

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Ok I laughed at "USB-D" and "Thousand dollar whoopsie."

But seriously, the sincere lack of F's about the Sixteeny has been amusing. I won't label it as some kind of miss for Apple, because even if it is just a tool to pull real world data from their new inhouse modem it was worth the money spent, but it is absolutely proves no one gives a D about Apple Intelligence.
 
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As expected there is no rush to get one on the first day. Waiting to see actual photos and reviews of the device. Should be a very good iPhone.
 
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I've not read the other 16e threads in details so I'll post in this thread some thoughts.

Price wise the 16e appears to be a straight replacement for the 14 which has been nixed for having a Lightning port - Apple had stopped selling the 14 in their stores potentially due to their interpretation of the EU regulation banning the sale of new devices without USB-C charging option.

In the UK a 128Gb 16e costs £599

A 128Gb iPhone 15 (which has USB-C but can't manage Apple Intelligence) costs £699.

A 'proper' 128Gb iPhone 16 costs £799

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iPhone SE 128Gb can be had for £479 at third party retailer Argos. This would have stayed the same price from launch.

Argos have just cleared out their stocks of 128Gb iPhone 12 for £299. It was previously £399.

The 128Gb iPhone 13 is £449, and you can get the 14 for £499. The iPhone 14 Plus is also being cleared out from £499 if you can find one.

Maybe Apple will be replying on third party retailers satisfying demand for cheaper iPhones by selling discontinued ones like the 13 and 14.



Now my notes about the 16e

This device replaces the 14, it's got a numbered name rather than just being labelled an SE which could go on for a couple of years.

I think rather than moaning about the price of £599 now, I'd be interested in seeing what happens in September when the iPhone 17 comes out.

In a normal circumstance the iPhone 17 would launch at the previous £799 price point. iPhone 16 would drop to £699. Below that an iPhone 15 would have dropped for £599 and the 14 (which has been replaced by the 16e) would be discontinued while the SE below that would carry on at the same price.

Clearly the 16e isn't going to get discontinued after just 6 months.

Would Apple want to continue selling the 15 which is incapable of accessing Apple Intelligence? If they don't then the lineup looks like this in September.

iPhone 16e £599
iPhone 16 £699
iPhone 17 £799

If Apple really do want to replace the SE price point after a bunch of early birds have bought the 16e they do this:

iPhone 16e £499 (yes, a drastic price cut after 6 months on sale, but that would not be good for used values)
iPhone 15 £599
iPhone 16 £699
iPhone 17 £799

But that's a bizarre lineup. And let's not forget that at this point 3rd party retailers will be offering discounts on the iPhone 15 and 16 which brings prices a lot closer to the 16e.

But basically, if there's a £100 gap between iPhone 16e and 16 in September then the choice of which phone to get suddenly becomes one to wrestle with. Especially if the plan next year is to discontinue the 16 and keep the 16e at the bottom of the range (or release an 18e 6 months after the 18 series phones come out.

So while the 16e is a good deal, is there a better one if you can wait for September when a 16 should be cheaper to buy?
 
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