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Here’s my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory behind the rumours iPhone 17 slim/air.

I think they’re trying to make the divide between base and Pro phones bigger. By nerfing the base iPhone.

As rumoured this year they will bring out the 17 slim along side both base and pro phones. With its slimmer design and single camera. So it will be slim and light at a small premium price that puts it in the middle, while not being “pro money”.

Being the “new” iPhone it will sell really well as all the kids and influencers flock to having the “new thing.”

Next year the base model iPhone will steal its design language with single camera. Not quite sure what they’ll do on the screen sizes. The pros may also follow suit but they won’t be as thin. Given they’re pro phones they’ll continue to promote big batteries and multi lens cameras.

Then over time we will end up with iPhone and iPhone pro but the base iPhone will have a single camera while the pros then have their killer features and massive battery life from being slightly thicker.

Most people will buy this new “slim marketing” but in the process Apple will have snuck in a nice price increase as well (remember they’re going to start middle of the range and I’m sure the pros will go up when they get a redesign).

This is essentially what they did with the iPhone XR and the 11.

The XS was the X successor. The XR was a cheaper model that was slightly bigger because it was LCD not OLED.

When the 11 came out. They named the OLED model as the 11 Pro and rebranded what was actually a new XR (LCD Display) as the iPhone 11.

It was a clever sleight of hand move that many unsuspecting consumers would never have noticed the new iPhone 11 actually had an inferior display to the X models.

What does “nerf” mean?

Why use this confusing terminology?
 
I agree there. Even the cases don’t fix it!

I love my 13 mini and will use it as long as I can. if Apple don’t make a phone with a width below 71mm or similar to the X or 15 pro I’ll just be buying a used 15 pro.

You guys chatterboxing about old iPhones and whether you will upgrade this year or not should instead upgrade yearly. You would end up with more money in your pockets :)
 
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i could not agree more with the op, but i feel after the mini’s failure Apple hoped the Plus would fill in the gaps. We now see that failed and the slim will try to rectify the sales burden of the mini, by drawing people in with the size and weight in a oversaturated large phone market.
 
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Apple trying to make slim and sleek happen again for iPhone will fail if Apple asks buyers to compromise and settle for a lesser displays, lesser cameras, lesser battery life than what we've become accustomed to since 11/11 Pro/Max.

"iPhone 17 Air semi-SE" ain't happening.

However, I always wondered why Apple didn't streamline its product naming between iPhones and iPads. And the mid-tier iPhones not having a signifier like "Pro" or "SE" has always made talking about them unnecessarily complicated.

I can totally see Apple relaunching the mid-tier iPhones where they get slimmed down and rebranded to "iPhone Air".

The mid-tier iPhones have, historically, usually been a good bit lighter and a tad slimmer than the bigger Pros. Apple doubling down on this and also having the mid-tier stand out as the slimmest smartphones in the World would probably boost sales of them a good bit.

It could work.
If the idea is to draw power users to the Pro series phones with multiple cameras, bigger batteries to cope with more powerful CPUs and GPUs by making an ‘air’ series of iPhones thinner and lighter the they probably will need to maintain a level of performance that will keep the promise of 10 hours of video/web browsing.

Seems to me that an underclocked A18 could do the trick there. If it’s a 17 series phone then an A19 cpu might be what gets used. Apple will surely have some figures from A17 Pro and A18 production that will show viability of underclocking the 3nm CPUs to get more battery life.

In this case you also wonder if pro-motion and always on display could make it to the Air series as a power saving measure.

So would you sacrifice a camera and some ultimate performance for a slightly bigger plus size screen while retaining the same battery life?

Certainly Apple could make the 17air exclusive to the larger plus size gap in the market for next year, but what does that do for the standard iPhone 17?

And does the 17 pro with more cameras and horsepower get cannibalised by people for whom a 17 air is sufficient?
 
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You have a clear argument, and I respect that, but I think it’s not quite that straightforward. If raw screen size were the issue, you’re looking at a book fold, not a flip. If quality and durability can be solved, great! A screen that unfolds to be essentially square doesn’t serve a whole lot though. It might be nice for people who use spreadsheets, and maybe e-books, but what else? Video won’t be any better than on an equivalent candybar.
Thank you for your respectfully opinion. But no, I rather like to fold it horizontally, so I’m looking for a flip by any means.

So that way I can double its height, this way if I have a 4 inches closed phone, opened it will reach 8 inches. 4 inches is shorter than the Mini, while 8 inches is larger than the Plus or Max.

I mean, what I really want is to have a phone with a screen of about 7 inches opened, that can be pocketable when closed being a square of 3.5 to 4 inches, I mean, very small in my pocket.
 
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Thank you for your respectfully opinion. But no, I rather like to fold it horizontally, so I’m looking for a flip by any means.

So that way I can double its height, this way if I have a 4 inches closed phone, opened it will reach 8 inches. 4 inches is shorter than the Mini, while 8 inches is larger than the Plus or Max.

I mean, what I really want is to have a phone with a screen of about 7 inches opened, that can be pocketable when closed being a square of 3.5 to 4 inches, I mean, very small in my pocket.
I reckon a 10.5cm squareish device would unfold into something quite useful! I can see why you’d want that.

Personally I’d prefer to keep my slab. I’m unsure of which direction I’d like to go, to be honest. My eyes would like me to get a larger screen, but the huge camera bumps annoy me. Having said that, I like the better cameras. Do I aim for whatever Pro Max is around when I’m ready to upgrade, or do I settle for a lesser camera to get everything else I like? My 14 is still doing well, so I’ve got time to decide.
 
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I think the design and manufacturing costs to make it thin would cost Apple more than keeping the camera setup the way it is.
 
As it stands we’d have:

iPhone SE 4
iPhone Air
iPhone Number + Plus
iPhone Number Pro + PM

I’m thinking the convergence may come with the SE and Air more than the regular and pro model iPhones.

The flaw in that is that SE uses old parts and is cheaper to make, Air is apparently expensive to slim down.

So, if that happens on regular iPhones, Apple probably has big camera improvements on the way because functionality has to go up, not down.

One exception to this rule is iPad Pro just dropped a camera shamelessly.

So honestly, it’s hard to predict what’s coming.

We shall see….
 
Everybody knew XR and 11 had an LCD,

I don’t think that’s true. Typical non-techie consumers have no idea about the difference between LCD and OLED and couldn’t tell you what type of display their device has.

On the other hand, my nieces do care a lot about what camera capabilities each iPhone model has. Apparently when you’re a 12 year old girl, the value of a hand-me-down iPhone is mostly judged on whether it supports the “0.5X” macro mode, etc.
 
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iPhone 16: 3561 mah
iPhone 16 Pro: 3582 mah

iPhone 16 Plus: 4674 mah
iPhone 16 Pro Max: 4685 mah.

By the time the 17 comes out the only difference will be the chipset, design and camera(s). And in the iPhone 14 they used to all use the same SoC.
In comparison to a SLIM!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
 
i could not agree more with the op, but i feel after the mini’s failure Apple hoped the Plus would fill in the gaps. We now see that failed and the slim will try to rectify the sales burden of the mini, by drawing people in with the size and weight in a oversaturated large phone market.
It’s the perfect solution. Small and light but no comprise. It will be sold as a premium phone (unlike the mini which was sold as “lesser than”).

Then over the next few years they can water down the less features to their main (non slim) phone. Given people will buy it as it will be the exciting new thing.

Alas we then get to a point where if you want any pretty basic pro features you pay up for the pro.

It’s exactly like cars. The base model never has even the basic of features!
 
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nice theory i see the angle. But if it is called "iphone air" Apple is adding another line up to the phones catalogue: base, air, and pro. i approach my apple conspiracies by following the ‘ecosystem theory’. "gaming and mac" was not really ideal, until the m chips and iphones pro models provided an ideal seamless experience across all three devices. doing this ensures that the ecosystem walled garden walls rise taller, making it harder to leave. for example, if one of your favorite games like diablo 4 is available on mac, iphone pro/max, or ipad pro m1 or later it solidifies this ecosystem.

applying the ecosystem theory approach leads to many sacred knowledge with the garden of apple.
 
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nice theory i see the angle. But if it is called "iphone air" Apple is adding another line up to the phones catalogue: base, air, and pro. i approach my apple conspiracies by following the ‘ecosystem theory’. "gaming and mac" was not really ideal, until the m chips and iphones pro models provided an ideal seamless experience across all three devices. doing this ensures that the ecosystem walled garden walls rise taller, making it harder to leave. for example, if one of your favorite games like diablo 4 is available on mac, iphone pro/max, or ipad pro m1 or later it solidifies this ecosystem.

applying the ecosystem theory approach leads to many sacred knowledge with the garden of apple.
They’re adding a line up this year. My point is that over the next few years the air becomes the base level.

Exactly how MacBooks are now.
 
Once the entire camera system moves to 48mp with 17 line, the standard lens kind of becomes obsolete given the fact the sharpness and quality of the UW lens is adequate. You can have single UW lens to capture 24mp photos on both UW and standard focal length.

It would serve well to the purpose of the standard iPhone models and make the pro models be able to add a longer telephoto lens maybe?
 
In comparison to a SLIM!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
Ok…if a 6.7 inch flip phone like a razr or z flip 6 has a 4000 mah battery …Regardless of how slim it is, what makes you think Apple will roll out a 6.6 inch phone with less?
 
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Here’s my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory behind the rumours iPhone 17 slim/air.

I think they’re trying to make the divide between base and Pro phones bigger. By nerfing the base iPhone.

As rumoured this year they will bring out the 17 slim along side both base and pro phones. With its slimmer design and single camera. So it will be slim and light at a small premium price that puts it in the middle, while not being “pro money”.

Being the “new” iPhone it will sell really well as all the kids and influencers flock to having the “new thing.”

Next year the base model iPhone will steal its design language with single camera. Not quite sure what they’ll do on the screen sizes. The pros may also follow suit but they won’t be as thin. Given they’re pro phones they’ll continue to promote big batteries and multi lens cameras.

Then over time we will end up with iPhone and iPhone pro but the base iPhone will have a single camera while the pros then have their killer features and massive battery life from being slightly thicker.

Most people will buy this new “slim marketing” but in the process Apple will have snuck in a nice price increase as well (remember they’re going to start middle of the range and I’m sure the pros will go up when they get a redesign).

This is essentially what they did with the iPhone XR and the 11.

The XS was the X successor. The XR was a cheaper model that was slightly bigger because it was LCD not OLED.

When the 11 came out. They named the OLED model as the 11 Pro and rebranded what was actually a new XR (LCD Display) as the iPhone 11.

It was a clever sleight of hand move that many unsuspecting consumers would never have noticed the new iPhone 11 actually had an inferior display to the X models.
It’s only an inferior display of you like looking at an ultra fast strobe light. But those of us that are sensitive to pwm know better.
 
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