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cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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what that means is the iphone 5's processor uses significantly less battery for the same or better performance. that means it can be thinner and lighter, and still run as long. differences between the 4s and 5 are easy to see when multitasking, or in battery life. my iphone 5 lasts significantly longer than my 4s did. enough that i don't need to worry about it at all for a day. that's a pretty big improvement to me.

if i were using an android phone, it would have to be much bigger and heavier to get through the same usage. i'm very much enjoying not having an awkward bulge in my pants all day. androids will soon start shipping with a15 based SOCs. while it will improve performance over the iphone 5, it's a server oriented chip that's going to be even bigger and hungrier.

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/13

some of the best battery testing i've seen in a while.

I'd say that's a stretch as far as battery performance goes. There is much more too it then just cores and clock speed. In my experience with Android and a tegra 2 device I was able to gain performance and battery life by overclocking because I could undervolt it. Then you have a big factor of time to idle meaning the time it takes to get the process done then back to idle.

Idevices have always had a reputation of good battery life. But in my experience I'm always doing a lot more with my Xoom then my iPad for example. Widgets, live wallpapers, etc etc. And if I jailbreak and do those things the battery life becomes a lot more comparable.

Btw I'm trying to stay neutral as I have had good experiences with both devices.
 

mcdj

macrumors G3
Jul 10, 2007
8,970
4,225
NYC
No one cares. No one has ever cared. No one will ever care. It's a TELEPHONE.

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Southernboyj

macrumors 68000
Mar 8, 2012
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Mobile, AL
I love how iPhone users say they don't care about specs or features when comparing android devices and say "it's all about the user experience" yet they gloat over the exact same things if the iPhone comes out on top.

I'm currently using an iPhone 5 and I don't have this mindset. Then again, I also love vanilla Android and own a Nexus 7, and have owned a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy S3.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
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2
How a lower clocked, dual-core A6 can smack around a higher clocked, quad-core Exynos while being more frugal with its battery use is beyond me. It's a pretty amazing chip, no doubt.
 

towg

macrumors regular
Jul 9, 2012
244
18
Cardiff
I have an s3 US version and on geekbench it only gets 1350 points. and thats with an overclock so...

Must be international:rolleyes:

I've got the International version and it got 1783. Not bad - whats the iPhone 5s result?

Heres mine

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daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
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I think that it has got to the stage where the differences have become so minuscule that for all intent and purpose are indistinguishable. I had an iPhone 5 and a SGS3, if I had noticed any difference in the performance, the phone that performed better I would have kept, it's as simple as that, there wasn't a clear winner though.

IMHO the days of "Android is laggy, clunky, freezes and crashes" are in the minds of those that haven't used any up to date Android Flagship devices, or are just repeating it for effect or argument.

I kept my S3 and sold my iP5, not because it worked faster or better, it didn't, IMHO, they were on a par with each other, both superb devices, but on this occasion, I preferred the S3. My mind hasn't changed so far, especially since my device has been updated to Jelly Bean this morning.
 
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MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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IMHO the days of "Android is laggy, clunky, freezes and crashes" are in the minds of those that haven't used an up to date Android device, or are just repeating it for effect or argument.

or have they may experienced the cheaper android devices perhaps... Some of those devices that carriers push on Pay As You Go Tariff's are terrible indeed...
 

Jinzen

macrumors 6502
Oct 16, 2012
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I'm an iPhone guy, don't really compare specs. Most of the time I have an incredibly difficult time seeing the speed difference between the 4S and 5. So in real world how would a phone that is in between them in performance be all that earth shattering?

This is as silly as when the S3 was trumping the older 4S. I'm sure a couple months from now there will be a faster Android phone out and we will have to hear about that and the cycle will continue.

Hah! Iphone users are mostly so utterly clueless. If you can't "feel" web pages load at half the speed... Hahaha
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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or have they may experienced the cheaper android devices perhaps... Some of those devices that carriers push on Pay As You Go Tariff's are terrible indeed...

Yep there is that, I was guilty of portraying all things equal, which of course is wrong, I should have, and will add "Android Flagship devices" somewhere in my post.
 

Jinzen

macrumors 6502
Oct 16, 2012
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No one cares. No one has ever cared. No one will ever care. It's a TELEPHONE.

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It's true, except people pay money for these so they defend their own purchasing decisions as if their family honor depended on it.

Lol seriously, most are clueless masses. I've owned them all, bought them all. Discarded the trash like the galaxy s3 (sold rather) as aside from the nice big screen, everything about it was still inferior, from display quality (lol @ the noobs here, the AMOLED in the galaxy is Pure crap. Pink tint bleeds and ink spots, half the brightness and non-whites, awful colorshifts and yes, you can see Pentile in text rendering at close focal distances) to UI speeds to app selection and sound quality.

The iPhone 5 is full of QC issues but compared to a plastic crap box from Samsung it's like a goddamn Aston Martin.
 

THE JUICEMAN

macrumors 68020
Oct 3, 2007
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IMHO the days of "Android is laggy, clunky, freezes and crashes" are in the minds of those that haven't used any up to date Android Flagship devices, or are just repeating it for effect or argument.

+1 android deserved the bad reputation that it has. It used to be awful. Now all of that it is smoothed out.

IMO I would only compare a Nexus device to an iPhone because they are on a more level playing field. The both are their respective companies vision of what a phone should be. If you compare samsungs version of what THEY think android should be then it is a lot different than what google thinks.

Edit: I am so happy that I no longer have such a strong brand loyalty to a company that doesn't give a sh&t about me. I am free to choose what's best for me.
 

Jinzen

macrumors 6502
Oct 16, 2012
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+1 android deserved the bad reputation that it has. It used to be awful. Now all of that it is smoothed out.

IMO I would only compare a Nexus device to an iPhone because they are on a more level playing field. The both are their respective companies vision of what a phone should be. If you compare samsungs version of what THEY think android should be then it is a lot different than what google thinks.

Edit: I am so happy that I no longer have such a strong brand loyalty to a company that doesn't give a sh&t about me. I am free to choose what's best for me.

And support has always been a real issue of what's best for you. Samsung and Google offer jack in terms of user support.

With an I device, at least you know you're not screwed if a button stops working or a graphics components inside malfunctions. You'll get a replacement in minutes at a nearby apple store.
 

THE JUICEMAN

macrumors 68020
Oct 3, 2007
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And support has always been a real issue of what's best for you. Samsung and Google offer jack in terms of user support.

With an I device, at least you know you're not screwed if a button stops working or a graphics components inside malfunctions. You'll get a replacement in minutes at a nearby apple store.

That's a very good argument. And one great advantage. Personally, I choose to buy insurance for my phones so this is not an issue for me. I have purchased apple care and best buy insurance. Because apples warranty is limited and expires after a year without additional insurance.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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OMG.... As soon as I opened this thread, all the amazing functions on my GS3 stopped working. :eek:

I now must slam my GS3 on the ground and purchase an IP5.
 

Jinzen

macrumors 6502
Oct 16, 2012
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That's a very good argument. And one great advantage. Personally, I choose to buy insurance for my phones so this is not an issue for me. I have purchased apple care and best buy insurance. Because apples warranty is limited and expires after a year without additional insurance.

Both are equally worthless. If you happen to destroy your iphone under a car, apple replaces it for $229. Under warranty or 5 years out of warranty. You spend much more on worthless insurance policies that take longer to claim and cost you money no matter what, rather than on a per incident basis.

Well no I take that back, android phones are worthless anyway. I could barely sell my brand new Galaxy S3 at 50% off retail price while an iPhone would sell up to 50% above retail price. Better to just buy another galaxy on Craigslist for pennies.
 

ReallyBigFeet

macrumors 68030
Apr 15, 2010
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I love how iPhone users say they don't care about specs or features when comparing android devices and say "it's all about the user experience" yet they gloat over the exact same things if the iPhone comes out on top.

Maybe because "better specs!" is ALL most Phandroids have to crow about so its rather ironic when those "better specs!" turn out to be bogus.

Just like all the Phandroids that now proclaim "UI is butter now with ICS!" See, it works both ways. And for the record, I think the User Experience for ICS _IS_ a total win for Android. And its about time it got there. Maybe that's the real reason for those "better specs!" in the first place....you need the horsepower to accomplish a better UX perhaps?
 

xuselppa

macrumors member
Oct 10, 2012
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Benchmarks... almost as worthless as iOS maps. :D

I do love the rivalry between Apple fans and Google/Android fans, although there are some drastically limiting features with iDevices, in terms of performance of doing tasks, we are at a point in needing to split hairs to see the differences. When you click on an app like say Jetpack Joyride on an iPhone 5 or S3 and one loads .00005 seconds faster or provides 1fps difference, are you gonna notice? Nope. Just like a person cain't see any pixelization between the 720p display on the S3 vs a 'retina' display on an iphone, unless you hold it about 3 inches from your eyeball and squint.

Calling a phone a 'piece of crap' because you are unable to formulate any sort of intelligible or valid reason, just shows how close minded some are. Most complaints are subjective anyway.

BTW, benchmarks are easily manipulated, unless you have a brand new phone, right out of the box to test. Your personal phone can have wildly different scores than someone else with the same phone.
 

sc4rf4c3

macrumors regular
Oct 10, 2012
190
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iPhone 5 - "Well I bench around 1650."
US Galaxy S3 - "I bench 1450 but I can do 1700 if I overclock."
I9300 - "I bench 1800."

It's like working out in the gym.
 
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