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AppleAlfred

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Nov 23, 2012
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Ive had both. Our opinions differ.

Yes they do, and that is fine. I mean I am by no means saying the S3 is a bad phone, and had the opportunity not come along to pick up an iPhone 5 for a good price I would have been more than happy to use the S3 for the next year or two.
 

daveathall

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Aug 6, 2010
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Yes they do, and that is fine. I mean I am by no means saying the S3 is a bad phone, and had the opportunity not come along to pick up an iPhone 5 for a good price I would have been more than happy to use the S3 for the next year or two.

Got to admit, the 5 is a superb phone, can't fault you there. Suppose thats the beauty of choice, we're both happy, what a dull world it would be if we all liked/disliked the same thing. Enjoy your phone.:)
 

theluggage

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Jul 29, 2011
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being able to easily sync all my apple products together so seemlessly was one reason i did not want to make the switch to android, but one of my friends who has only been using android said it is as easy as dragging and dropping files, plus with the expandable memory its a little more appealing and more cost effective.


I have a Note 2 - although I've never had an iPhone, I have an iPod Touch, and iPad 1, an Apple TV, an iPad 3 and several Macs so I'm fairly "into" Apple. I've gone with Android phones mainly for the sake of trying something different.

I think you've identified the sticking point - media playing. On Android, calandar, contacts and email all work nicely via GMail - which is supported by iOS and OSX as well. You need a Google account but you don't have to use GMail as your main email account. As for other documents - well, Android couldn't suck harder than iTunes/iCloud if it tried. You can use Dropbox, Google Drive to share files, something like Airdroid to download/upload individual files, Android File Transfer* to transfer via USB or go via a SD card.

However, the Apple 'ecosystem' works really well for music, photos and video, and Android really can't match it. For these things, drag-and-drop doesn't cut it, you want *sync* which intelligently only copies new/changed files and also transfers your playlists. You *can* do this with Android, but you're going to have to check out third-party Apps to get something satisfactory. As for network streaming etc. the Samsung phones support DNLA which is really hit-and-miss (mine will stream video and sound to my telly, but only from the Samsung player apps and minus such refinements as gapless playback). Of course, this is less of an issue if you want to "go to the cloud" with Google, Amazon, Spotify etc. all offering cloudy music with offline/download options.

* Unfortunately Samsung have tried to produce their own iTunes-esque monolithic sync/backup/media library/file transfer app called Kies. It does work but is, shall we say, not very inspiring and (to cap it all) installs a driver which plays havoc with other sync apps like AFT. Just say no (and uninstall it if you want Android File Transfer to work).

This is one thing that does annoy me with Samsung - If I have an Android phone then I either want to use the Google infrastructure or choose 3rd-party tools and services. I could do without Samsung's me-too App Store, Music/Video/Book Hub (paid) and clunky sync software.
 

F123D

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2008
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I often found myself sitting down with my S3 and needing to readjust it in my pocket because it was so big, iPhone 5 hasn't caused me that problem.


I found the opposite. The iPhone 5 was so slim and tall, it was easier to to tilt sideways in my pocket causing me to readjust.

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I think you've identified the sticking point - media playing. On Android, calandar, contacts and email all work nicely via GMail - which is supported by iOS and OSX as well. You need a Google account but you don't have to use GMail as your main email account. As for other documents - well, Android couldn't suck harder than iTunes/iCloud if it tried. You can use Dropbox, Google Drive to share files, something like Airdroid to download/upload individual files, Android File Transfer* to transfer via USB or go via a SD card.

I only used gmail in the past. Since upgrading to the Note II, I didn't realize how easy it was to also sync my contacts, calendar, tasks, mail, docs, music, etc.. Everything works together so smoothly and easily.
 

Switchback666

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Nov 16, 2012
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I found the opposite. The iPhone 5 was so slim and tall, it was easier to to tilt sideways in my pocket causing me to readjust.

Yeah i found that weird, the iphone 5 form factor should be more prone to tilt sideways than a "bulkier" device.
 

eab191

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Jun 3, 2011
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went with galaxy 3 then switched to iphone 5

ok, so i went with the samsung galaxy 3 and within 3 days i returned it and went with the iphone 5. For the last 2 years my entire life and everything i do lives in the iCloud, when i removed one part of it everything stopped working and syncing, i was lost. I use a MacBook, iPad, and an iPhone. Wherever i went all my contacts, notes, emails, music etc all followed me. I couldnt give that up. android was fun and i liked it but i was just too used to iOS and had to switch back. iphone 5 FTW
 

theluggage

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Jul 29, 2011
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ok, so i went with the samsung galaxy 3 and within 3 days i returned it and went with the iphone 5. For the last 2 years my entire life and everything i do lives in the iCloud, when i removed one part of it everything stopped working and syncing, i was lost. I use a MacBook, iPad, and an iPhone. Wherever i went all my contacts, notes, emails, music etc all followed me. I couldnt give that up. android was fun and i liked it but i was just too used to iOS and had to switch back. iphone 5 FTW

You can do all that on Android but you'd have to move from Apple's "Apple only" iCloud to Google's cross-platform cloud, or other third-party clouds.

Email: GMail or any email service offering standard IMAP. Supported by Android, iOS Mail and OS X Mail.

Contacts & Calendar: GMail, even if you don't use gmail as your main mail service. iCal & Address Book on OSX and iOS support GMail sync.

Music: Google Play Music, Amazon Cloud Player both offer iTunes Match-like facilities, and will integrate with iTunes on your Mac. I think Google Play Music on iOS relies on a web-based client, but Amazon have an iOS App.

Files: The crimp in this is due to iOS not really having files and Apple's Pages, Keynote etc. not supporting Dropbox, Google Drive etc. 3rd-party iOS apps do, though.

Photos: the one thing I haven't found very satisfactory, mainly because the [censored] Samsung Gallery app defaults to finding every single image in the [censored] universe, including all the album cover art and a ton of carp in my Dropbox and doesn't seem to have an "Only look in the Photos folder" option. However, the camera will happily send snaps straight to Dropbox.

I tried iCloud and hated it because the choice was 'Move all your files to the Cloud, use Pages and Keynote for everything, or don't bother".
 

ChiliBlue

macrumors 6502
Jul 26, 2008
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My husband got the Black Friday $99 refurb iPhone 5 and I took his sad looking, beat up, screen cracked iPhone 4 in a heartbeat. The Galaxy S3 is still sitting in my purse.

My biggest complaints with the S3 was no JellyBean update. I felt it was to much micro managing to get an extra couple of hours of battery life. Right now I'm limited to one hand and with the size of the phone I was always hitting that $#% bottom right button. (Yes, I had to be stopped from throwing it out of the window of a moving car.)

I do miss the drop down toggle switches though. Apple really needs to make it easier to turn on/off wifi etc.

MTCW
 

Cod3rror

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Apr 18, 2010
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time to burst your bubble...go use the galaxy S 3 then you can come back and change your totally wrong comment

Nah, come on. Android does not even have an edge bounce-back effect. The whole UI feels like it was designed by a lumberjack with an ax.

Android needs about 3 more years of very hard UI development to be on the level with iOS
 

TheHateMachine

macrumors 6502a
Sep 18, 2012
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Nah, come on. Android does not even have an edge bounce-back effect. The whole UI feels like it was designed by a lumberjack with an ax.

Android needs about 3 more years of very hard UI development to be on the level with iOS

You win the internets sir.

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I am currently using the iphone 4 32gb and it was my first experience with iOS, and i loved it and was convinced i wasnt going to use anything else. But with all these awesome android phones out on the market now such as the samsung galaxy s3 or the samsung galaxy note 2. jelly bean looks awesome and ios6 is just getting stale for me, ive have my iphone 4 since release and with two ios updates it hasnt changed enough for me to want to stay. i really like the gs3 and the note 2, ive seen reviews and most people initially say the screen size of the note 2 is way too big but after theyve gotten used to it they say they could never switch to anything smaller. i have an ipad 2, so im not looking for a tablet replacement, i use my phone a lot during the day, doing a lot of internet browsing, txting, emails and some games and video. should i try android for the first time? and if so worth going with the note 2 or go for the gs3?

Tough choice, the IP5, GS3 and the Note 2 are all solid phones that have a plethora of apps, good specs and offer very smooth UX with no hiccups.

I personally would lean towards the Note 2. More screen space, some neato features with Touchwiz and a battery that lasts forever.

That being said the iPhone is a pretty solid kit and the smaller form factor might be better suited for you and if you are bought into Apple's ecosystem stuff will just work without having to hunt around for apps.

The Galaxy S3 is good, I have one and its pretty much a Note without the screen size, the stylus, a slightly slower proc (US only) and its not packing a massive battery however the battery life is still good.
 

Switchback666

macrumors 68000
Nov 16, 2012
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Nah, come on. Android does not even have an edge bounce-back effect. The whole UI feels like it was designed by a lumberjack with an ax.

Android needs about 3 more years of very hard UI development to be on the level with iOS

Typing these from a ipad and i have to laugh at these comment, iOS level of UI is zero; edge bounce-back effect ? :eek:
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Nah, come on. Android does not even have an edge bounce-back effect. The whole UI feels like it was designed by a lumberjack with an ax.

Android needs about 3 more years of very hard UI development to be on the level with iOS

I can't believe we are at the point where iOS is better because it has a bounce back feature. Lol. I had to actually be told by someone on this forum that its an important feature. To heck with a user dictionary that can be edited for flawless autocorrect operation or something actually useful! I need a rubber band effect at the when I'm at the bottom of a page....
 

TheHateMachine

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Sep 18, 2012
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Typing these from a ipad and i have to laugh at these comment, iOS level of UI is zero; edge bounce-back effect ? :eek:

I can't believe we are at the point where iOS is better because it has a bounce back feature. Lol. I had to actually be told by someone on this forum that its an important feature. To heck with a user dictionary that can be edited for flawless autocorrect operation or something actually useful! I need a rubber band effect at the when I'm at the bottom of a page....

If this guy is serious... which I doubt he is. I find it funny that he is claiming Android is behind the curve because of the lack of bounce back in a thread about Samsung Android devices. No one can be that silly right... right?!?!
 

Cod3rror

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Apr 18, 2010
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I can't believe we are at the point where iOS is better because it has a bounce back feature. Lol. I had to actually be told by someone on this forum that its an important feature. To heck with a user dictionary that can be edited for flawless autocorrect operation or something actually useful! I need a rubber band effect at the when I'm at the bottom of a page....

If you had to be told to notice it, you just might not be one of those people who pay attention to and appreciate little nice details in things.
 

MadeTheSwitch

macrumors 65816
Apr 20, 2009
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Nah, come on. Android does not even have an edge bounce-back effect. The whole UI feels like it was designed by a lumberjack with an ax.

Android needs about 3 more years of very hard UI development to be on the level with iOS

Really? Let's see, Samsung phones are now showing multiple apps in different windows, you can put your phone face down to silence it, you can bump phones to share things, you can make an ad hoc network with users at an event like a wedding and you all receive the photos taken from every device automatically....all sorts of innovation is being done on the Android platform.

But somehow you think Android is the one that needs to catch up? :confused: I think you've got that backwards. iOS is a good OS, but it's been stuck in a rut for awhile now. The look and feel of it remains mostly unchanged year after year while annoying things (like no GPS/3G etc. toggles easily accessible) are left unaddressed. Sorry, but I would gladly exchange a "bounce back" effect for something that makes your life easier every day.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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If you had to be told to notice it, you just might not be one of those people who pay attention to and appreciate little nice details in things.

You misunderstood. I had to be told it was a little nice detail, not that it existed....
 

Cod3rror

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Apr 18, 2010
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Really? Let's see, Samsung phones are now showing multiple apps in different windows, you can put your phone face down to silence it, you can bump phones to share things, you can make an ad hoc network with users at an event like a wedding and you all receive the photos taken from every device automatically....all sorts of innovation is being done on the Android platform.

But somehow you think Android is the one that needs to catch up? :confused: I think you've got that backwards. iOS is a good OS, but it's been stuck in a rut for awhile now. The look and feel of it remains mostly unchanged year after year while annoying things (like no GPS/3G etc. toggles easily accessible) are left unaddressed. Sorry, but I would gladly exchange a "bounce back" effect for something that makes your life easier every day.

Samsung phones are now showing multiple apps in different windows

And it lags. Multiple windows are useless anyway, much like a pop-out video, instead it should be able to just play audio in the background, which Android cannot do. It also does not have a centralized audio controls like iOS or even Windows Phone.

you can put your phone face down to silence it, you can bump phones to share things, you can make an ad hoc network with users at an event like a wedding and you all receive the photos taken from every device automatically

Pipe dream scenarios. No one does that, no...one.

Here's the reality... How many other people will have this Galaxy S III during the wedding? Yea probably only you. How many people will actually have a clue how to turn this feature on and share pictures? Not many. In the end you'll have to turn in on, on everyone's phones, and it's a wedding, no one will have time or care in the world for that. So you will spend more time with that nonsense than actually emailing them pictures later on or just putting them up on Dropbox and letting them save whatever they want at home, on their own.

As I said in another thread, Android has many proof-of-concept features, that are actually useless in real life scenarios and most people end up never actually using those features. Android can connect to a mouse, keyboard, an external monitor; YouTube is full of videos people showing how Android can do this and hence it's so much better than iOS, after they shoot the video though, they disconnect all that and never actually repeat it.

Or how about a video where they show how an Android phone is actually controlling a car... how cool, and how useless... are you really going to control a car with your Android? No. It's just a meaning less bragging right.

iOS blows Android away in things that actually matter. Even tiniest things.

Instead of driving a car with an Android, with an iPhone, when you get into a car, it automatically connects to your stereo, displays all the info, and you can control it through the car stereo, take calls, play music, so many actually useful things. And it's all seamless and automatic, try that on an Android.

Remember when Google announced that plan to have Android control everything around your house? Yea, how is that working out?

Apple announced the car manufacturer partnership to integrate SIRI, and it is actually in production. New cars will have that very useful capability.

The only reason Android succeeded was because it was free. I guarantee you, if Apple gave away iOS free tomorrow... Samsung, HTC, Sony all of them would ditch Android overnight and never look back. Android would literally be wiped out in a month.

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You misunderstood. I had to be told it was a little nice detail, not that it existed....

Excuse me, I misunderstood you then.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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Samsung phones are now showing multiple apps in different windows

And it lags. Multiple windows are useless anyway, much like a pop-out video, instead it should be able to just play audio in the background, which Android cannot do. It also does not have a centralized audio controls like iOS or even Windows Phone.

you can put your phone face down to silence it, you can bump phones to share things, you can make an ad hoc network with users at an event like a wedding and you all receive the photos taken from every device automatically

Pipe dream scenarios. No one does that, no...one.

Here's the reality... How many other people will have this Galaxy S III during the wedding? Yea probably only you. How many people will actually have a clue how to turn this feature on and share pictures? Not many. In the end you'll have to turn in on, on everyone's phones, and it's a wedding, no one will have time or care in the world for that. So you will spend more time with that nonsense than actually emailing them pictures later on or just putting them up on Dropbox and letting them save whatever they want at home, on their own.

As I said in another thread, Android has many proof-of-concept features, that are actually useless in real life scenarios and most people end up never actually using those features. Android can connect to a mouse, keyboard, an external monitor; YouTube is full of videos people showing how Android can do this and hence it's so much better than iOS, after they shoot the video though, they disconnect all that and never actually repeat it.

Or how about a video where they show how an Android phone is actually controlling a car... how cool, and how useless... are you really going to control a car with your Android? No. It's just a meaning less bragging right.

iOS blows Android away in things that actually matter. Even tiniest things.

Instead of driving a car with an Android, with an iPhone, when you get into a car, it automatically connects to your stereo, displays all the info, and you can control it through the car stereo, take calls, play music, so many actually useful things. And it's all seamless and automatic, try that on an Android.

Remember when Google announced that plan to have Android control everything around your house? Yea, how is that working out?

Apple announced the car manufacturer partnership to integrate SIRI, and it is actually in production. New cars will have that very useful capability.

The only reason Android succeeded was because it was free. I guarantee you, if Apple gave away iOS free tomorrow... Samsung, HTC, Sony all of them would ditch Android overnight and never look back. Android would literally be wiped out in a month.

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Excuse me, I misunderstood you then.

Seriously, who uses Shared Photo Stream on iOS? Two of my friends and I do and its pretty useless. Everyone else I know in real life with an iPhone doesnt even mess with it. Remember all the threads of people saying how lousy it is that only the host of it can add, delete and modify it....

And as far as connecting a mouse and keyboard. Well I find that very useful. Just dock the devices and lay back on the couch with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Thats what I'm doing right now....

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Cod3rror

macrumors 68000
Apr 18, 2010
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Seriously, who uses Shared Photo Stream on iOS? Two of my friends and I do and its pretty useless. Everyone else I know in real life with an iPhone doesnt even mess with it. Remember all the threads of people saying how lousy it is that only the host of it can add, delete and modify it....

And as far as connecting a mouse and keyboard. Well I find that very useful. Just dock the devices and lay back on the couch with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Thats what I'm doing right now....

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Everyone that has multiple i devices(and there are lots) uses PhotoStream.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
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My wife and I both use it....often.

Don't get me wrong its not completely useless even though I pretty much said that so I apologize for that. My point was that if you use that then if you and your wife had S3's you'd also use its more effortless photo sharing technology.

I've never used it personally (I have an iPhone) but its something I certainly would use. The reason why is because I'm constantly in group messages with people and that's the way I share photos with people that are local to me (parties usually).

I find shared photo stream to much of a hassle vs just using iMessage. Sharing via shared photo stream always leads to text messaging for me anyway.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Everyone that has multiple i devices(and there are lots) uses PhotoStream.

I agree. I have multiple iOS devices. But i 'm talking about SHARED photo stream. Syncing photos amongst multiple Android devices is just as easy as iOS devices....
 

partyBoy

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this is what a real phone looks like...
 

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MadeTheSwitch

macrumors 65816
Apr 20, 2009
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Samsung phones are now showing multiple apps in different windows

And it lags. Multiple windows are useless anyway

Really? So you only use one window at a time on your computer? Interesting. As for lag, in all the videos I have seen I have not observed that. I will have to play with it in the store more and see what I find in that regard.

instead it should be able to just play audio in the background, which Android cannot do.

I'm unclear on what you are referencing here. Are you referring to audio from a video? A simple software update could address any shortcomings there.

It also does not have a centralized audio controls like iOS or even Windows Phone.

Agree that the settings on Android can be a bit of a mess.

Pipe dream scenarios. No one does that, no...one.

Here's the reality... How many other people will have this Galaxy S III during the wedding? Yea probably only you. How many people will actually have a clue how to turn this feature on and share pictures? Not many. In the end you'll have to turn in on, on everyone's phones, and it's a wedding, no one will have time or care in the world for that. So you will spend more time with that nonsense than actually emailing them pictures later on or just putting them up on Dropbox and letting them save whatever they want at home, on their own.

First off, you can do this with other Samsung devices, not just the S III, so the chances are a bit higher and will only increase more with time. But you have to start somewhere. Do you think Facetime was being used by everyone when it first came out and AT&T only let you use it over wifi? I admire the innovation. Sorry that you do not. I guess if it were up to you phones would only make calls and text and pull up web pages and that's it because things get reduced down to only what the majority uses. So forget introducing anything new. :rolleyes:

iOS blows Android away in things that actually matter. Even tiniest things.

Instead of driving a car with an Android, with an iPhone, when you get into a car, it automatically connects to your stereo, displays all the info, and you can control it through the car stereo, take calls, play music, so many actually useful things. And it's all seamless and automatic, try that on an Android.

Um...you can do things like that. Course just as with everything it is going to depend on the phone manufacture and the car audio manufacture.

Remember when Google announced that plan to have Android control everything around your house? Yea, how is that working out?

The same way all home control seems to work. I am not sure why these things never ever take off. I guess people really don't want the house of the future after all. I'd go for it personally, but then I am really into home automation stuff.

The only reason Android succeeded was because it was free. I guarantee you, if Apple gave away iOS free tomorrow... Samsung, HTC, Sony all of them would ditch Android overnight and never look back. Android would literally be wiped out in a month.

It may have succeeded in the beginning that way, but that is not why it succeeds now. Maybe you think that the phone marketplace is somehow different from other consumer products and you think there should only be one platform, but that logic is faulty. There is not only one maker of TV's, stereos, autos, or even lawnmowers so I don't know why you would think there wouldn't be a market for other phone OS's too.
 
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