iPhone 5S - iOS 12GM vs. 11.4.1

[Radon87000]

The apps load instantly, if the phones’ hardware is the issue you’re just realizing what some on the forum has been saying for years.

The apps haven’t loaded instantly. Maybe your definition of instant is different than mine. For me instant could be 1-2 seconds or less. Also depends from app to app. Settings must load in 0.4 seconds or less. Keyboard should have no input lag. The fact of the matter is Apple’s updates ruined the phone. It was working fine on iOS 8.

By my definition of instant no iPhone below the 6s loads apps instantly.

 

[I7guy]

The apps haven’t loaded instantly. Maybe your definition of instant is different than mine.

Right, so now the definition of instant is going to be parsed. The apps initially loaded instantly and it took some time to display the initial content. That points to internet communications.

For me instant could be 1-2 seconds or less. Also depends from app to app. Settings must load in 0.4 seconds or less. Keyboard should have no input lag. The fact of the matter is Apple’s updates ruined the phone. It was working fine on iOS 8.

By my definition of instant no iPhone below the 6s loads apps instantly.

That's reasonable 1-2 seconds or less, which is what it looks like it took the apps to launch based on your own video. So back to it may be a hardware related issue on your iphone as others have shown their same model works okay.

 

[Chazzle]

I just did a screen recording of my iPhone 6.

Settings in iOS 11 taking more than 1 second

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=453d4a21-d4b3-4838-ac04-b3948abeedcd

Settings in iOS 12 takes 1 second

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=148a1d0e-1cfa-43fb-ab8d-61475fb83879

I was correct with Uber. Takes 9 seconds to load

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=148a1d0e-1cfa-43fb-ab8d-61475fb83879

YouTube takes 5 seconds

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=ad58e811-4874-4faa-be71-a240f94d3942


Basic apps like these should take 1 to 2 seconds to load to be a usable phone. I have a Moto G 2016 which cost $150 which opens all these apps including settings faster than my iPhone 6 does though its running on an outdated Android version. This is a bargain bin phone which is why I say anything slower than that phone is unusable.



Thats what I am saying. This is the speed necessary to enjoy a device. If it takes 5 seconds to load, it kills the enjoyment factor.

I notice you are trying to open Uber with 5% battery left. Definitely has an impact on performance, but I think you already knew that.

 

[Radon87000]

I notice you are trying to open Uber with 5% battery left. Definitely has an impact on performance, but I think you already knew that.

The phone is not used for days so the battery drains in standby. I can charge it to 100% and it will perform the same. The battery is not the issue as I replaced it in July last year with a brand new one. Currently health is at 91%.

I will perform the same test again along with the Moto G video when I return.

 

[GreyOS]

The phone is not used for days so the battery drains in standby. I can charge it to 100% and it will perform the same. The battery is not the issue as I replaced it in October last year with a brand new one. Currently health is at 91%.

I will perform the same test again along with the Moto G video when I return.

What’s your explanation for it taking half the time on my iPhone 6? https://streamable.com/z1mk6

 

[Radon87000]

Right, so now the definition of instant is going to be parsed. The apps initially loaded instantly and it took some time to display the initial content. That points to internet communications.


That's reasonable 1-2 seconds or less, which is what it looks like it took the apps to launch based on your own video. So back to it may be a hardware related issue on your iphone as others have shown their same model works okay.

Did you see the Uber app? Did you see YouTube? The time taken in loading the content was 1-2 seconds or less. The time spent in loading the app was 5 seconds and more.


The phone has already been checked at the Apple store. There is nothing wrong with it.

I am seeing some excuses regarding the battery being at 5% and for full disclosure the phone storage is also full to the brim with approx 1GB left and I am sure someone will come up with that excuse as well.

 

[Radon87000]

What’s your explanation for it taking half the time on my iPhone 6? https://streamable.com/z1mk6

You have already opened the app a short time before you reopened it. On my iPhone 6 if I open Uber,close it, let it sleep for 5 mins, and then reopen it, it will launch faster. If you reopen the app after a restart or after you let it sit idle for 8 hours or more, and open it that’s when the delay occurs. This is the case with all apps.

 

[GreyOS]

Did you see the Uber app? Did you see YouTube? The time taken in loading the content was 1-2 seconds or less. The time spent in loading the app was 5 seconds and more.


The phone has already been checked at the Apple store. There is nothing wrong with it.

I am seeing some excuses regarding the battery being at 5% and for full disclosure the phone storage is also full to the brim with approx 1GB left and I am sure someone will come up with that excuse as well.

I have some questions about the videos you posted.

You said Settings took over a second in iOS 11 and linked to a video. In the video, Settings doesn’t have Screen Time, confirming it is pre-iOS 12.

Then you said it took 1 second in iOS 12, but the video you linked to was Uber. You posted that video twice. There’s no video of iOS 12 Settings.

In the Uber video, your home screen looks the same as in the iOS 11 Settings video, except you have Uber and YouTube installed now.

Did you upgrade to iOS 12 inbetween these recordings or are all of them on iOS 11?

 

[Radon87000]

I have some questions about the videos you posted.

You said Settings took over a second in iOS 11 and linked to a video. In the video, Settings doesn’t have Screen Time, confirming it is pre-iOS 12.

Then you said it took 1 second in iOS 12, but the video you linked to was Uber. You posted that video twice. There’s no video of iOS 12 Settings.

In the Uber video, your home screen looks the same as in the iOS 11 Settings video, except you have Uber and YouTube installed now.

Did you upgrade to iOS 12 inbetween these recordings or are all of them on iOS 11?

I copied the Uber video twice. This is the iOS 12 settings menu opening.

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=d889f4e7-47fc-41ce-9815-2ac554efedf3

Unfortunately I cant really capture the settings taking 2 seconds to load in a recording because it is really inconsistent. It seems fast in this video but at times it slows down and takes 2 seconds.

The only iOS 11 video is that of the settings menu. On iOS 11, it used to load settings in 2 seconds almost always. iOS 12 has fixed it somewhat but not entirely.

 

[I7guy]

Did you see the Uber app? Did you see YouTube? The time taken in loading the content was 1-2 seconds or less. The time spent in loading the app was 5 seconds and more.


The phone has already been checked at the Apple store. There is nothing wrong with it.

I am seeing some excuses regarding the battery being at 5% and for full disclosure the phone storage is also full to the brim with approx 1GB left and I am sure someone will come up with that excuse as well.

The Uber app looked like it loaded the splash screen immediately and took time to load the content. That appears to be internet related. So it’s either your slow internet or communication chip.

Apple could be wrong, it has happened before.

 

[Radon87000]

I notice you are trying to open Uber with 5% battery left. Definitely has an impact on performance, but I think you already knew that.

I drained the battery till 0 and charged it till 82% and ran the test while it was on the charger. Same results

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=b0b5637e-4929-4d28-b5ea-258315e51a05
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The Uber app looked like it loaded the splash screen immediately and took time to load the content.

7 Plus. Same area. Same WiFi. 2 seconds on the splash screen

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=f43b0594-1449-4166-83ac-c604a80b6f72

iPhone 6 with 82% battery.

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=b0b5637e-4929-4d28-b5ea-258315e51a05

7 seconds

 

[I7guy]

I drained the battery till 0 and charged it till 82% and ran the test while it was on the charger. Same results

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=b0b5637e-4929-4d28-b5ea-258315e51a05
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7 Plus. Same area. Same WiFi. 2 seconds on the splash screen

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=f43b0594-1449-4166-83ac-c604a80b6f72

iPhone 6 with 82% battery.

https://www.videosprout.com/video?id=b0b5637e-4929-4d28-b5ea-258315e51a05

7 seconds

I’m only going on your initial video, which indicated Uber loaded immediately with content being delayed. Based on that observation my opinion of the communication channel was formed.

 

[Radon87000]

I’m only going on your initial video, which indicated Uber loaded immediately with content being delayed. Based on that observation my opinion of the communication channel was formed.

The length of the initial video is 13 seconds. The splash screen starts at 0.8 seconds somewhat. Ends at 7 seconds. Thats when the content starts loading which I have blocked for privacy. I assure you the content load times arent the issue. The splash load times are.

 

[C DM]

So much back and forth on attempts at measurement and videos and all that for something that won't really matter much one way or another given that those who see something that is a fraction of a second as something that makes things simply "unusable". No measurements or videos or anything like that will change something like that, as nothing like that has changed it over a number of years now.

 

[I7guy]

The length of the initial video is 13 seconds. The splash screen starts at 0.8 seconds somewhat. Ends at 7 seconds. Thats when the content starts loading which I have blocked for privacy. I assure you the content load times arent the issue. The splash load times are.

It’s you who said instant is one to two seconds. That’s what I’m going on.

 

[Radon87000]

It’s you who said instant is one to two seconds. That’s what I’m going on.

Yes and the video above shows 7 seconds to load the app. I can’t think of a single third party app which the iPhone 6 could load in 1-2 seconds.

 

[Lismange]

Yes and the video above shows 7 seconds to load the app. I can’t think of a single third party app which the iPhone 6 could load in 1-2 seconds.

Can you resets the cache and test again?

Resets cache: go to settings -> resets all settings (no data deleted)

 

[I7guy]

Yes and the video above shows 7 seconds to load the app. I can’t think of a single third party app which the iPhone 6 could load in 1-2 seconds.

Your original video showed the apps loading immediately. The way these videos are posted is confusing and what they are trying to convey is unclear and not worth my time to take another look.

 

[GreyOS]

Your original video showed the apps loading immediately. The way these videos are posted is confusing and what they are trying to convey is unclear and not worth my time to take another look.

Nearly all apps start to load as soon as you tap them. But to actually complete loading, which includes getting everything from storage and into memory, initialising the app, looking up things in the internal database, rendering the UI etc.- this can take a while and it’s definitely not only loading things over the network, though that can be part of it. You can see this by loading these apps with WiFi and data turned off. Usually a splash screen indicates it’s loading the app, then the main UI shows and the content fills in as it downloads over the internet.

 

[I7guy]

Nearly all apps start to load as soon as you tap them. But to actually complete loading, which includes getting everything from storage and into memory, initialising the app, looking up things in the internal database, rendering the UI etc.- this can take a while and it’s definitely not only loading things over the network, though that can be part of it. You can see this by loading these apps with WiFi and data turned off. Usually a splash screen indicates it’s loading the app, then the main UI shows and the content fills in as it downloads over the internet.

Tried loading Youtube with network turned off. Splash screen immediate, no network connection 5 seconds. Don’t know what that really says.

 

[Nisaja]

Yes and the video above shows 7 seconds to load the app. I can’t think of a single third party app which the iPhone 6 could load in 1-2 seconds.

How's it going Radon! Long time no see! I have no contribution to the thread, just wanted to say hi lol.

 

[Freakonomics101]

All people really want to know is if the 5s is absolutely nothing compared to the 4s on iOS 9. Apps take a few seconds to load is to be expected on a 6 year old iPhone. For how the 5s runs on iOS 12 is absolutely impressive.

 

[eicca]

The number one thing we can all learn from this thread is that someone’s expectations are completely unreasonable and that same person should use their inherent freedom to move on to a different company that produces acceptable results instead of constantly complaining.

 

[Racineur]

These phones are unusable at this point. Apple should put them out of their misery.

Why do sou say that? Who are you to dare make such a ridicule statement? Give some examples they are unusable. Prove your statements, Please answer these questiions. So fed up with these kind of statements as if only the last minute device was the right one. Do you know that now that 2018 iPhones are out, they are already obsolete and some are even looking forward the 2019 models if not the 2020.

 

[C DM]

Why do sou say that? Who are you to dare make such a ridicule statement? Give some examples they are unusable. Prove your statements, Please answer these questiions. So fed up with these kind of statements as if only the last minute device was the right one. Do you know that now that 2018 iPhones are out, they are already obsolete and some are even looking forward the 2019 models if not the 2020.

So we really need to see it all go in the same circles that we've seen it all going for years now?