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Nah, I'm not that stubborn. It's just when you power an Android phone on without the battery connected to the AC adapter it'll work just fine. Why wouldn't it be the case with an iPhone?

It was connected to the AC adapter and it just shut off. I don't want to waste money on such things. If it's true then it's a shame that the iPhone lasts about a year only. But once again, it was connected to the AC adapter, so I don't believe that it's the battery.

#2 Sometimes I see a spinning wheel on a black screen while for like 15 seconds and then it asks me the passcode. It doesn't shut down.

I googled and I'm not the only one with the issue. Most people recommended to do a system restore, but will iTunes backup backup even my WhatsApp conversations? Anyways, I'll try restoring the system first.

Good luck!
 
My 6 did that before and after the problematic slowdown fix. I think sometimes you can just get a bad battery.
 
Hello,
I went outside today (it was -2) and my phone died at 80%. It showed me to connect it to the charger. Then I went to the store and tried turning it back on and it did. When I left the store it powered itself off and showed me that I have to charge the phone.
I walked home and just powered it on at home and it's working now.
Is it the battery?
Is it okay to be a little suspicious, because my warranty ended at December 2017 and after that the problem begun? Yeah, I don't think I'll ever buy any Apple products again.:)
I've never had such problems with any of Android phones.
How much would battery replacement cost for 5S?
 
Hello,
I went outside today (it was -2) and my phone died at 80%. It showed me to connect it to the charger. Then I went to the store and tried turning it back on and it did. When I left the store it powered itself off and showed me that I have to charge the phone.
I walked home and just powered it on at home and it's working now.
Is it the battery?
Is it okay to be a little suspicious, because my warranty ended at December 2017 and after that the problem begun? Yeah, I don't think I'll ever buy any Apple products again.:)
I've never had such problems with any of Android phones.
How much would battery replacement cost for 5S?


Do a chat with Apple and they will give you a price.
 
We don't have "official" Apple support like you do in America.
All we have here is apple resellers.
I found a place close to me. It's 39€. It's not by Apple. So should I go for it?
 
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The issue is solved now. It hasn't shut off anymore. I restored my phone and that helped. I still haven't downloaded all my apps nor restored everything, but maybe there was some app that drained battery life like a lot. But it's working fine now.
 
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In the end you will still need a new battery.
Nope, it has worked fine for days now after restoring the system and I'm not going to give any of my money to Apple anymore anyways :)
You are being so stubborn about that. I don't understand why. The battery has lasted me whole day, so why would I need it?
 
Nope, it has worked fine for days now after restoring the system and I'm not going to give any of my money to Apple anymore anyways :)
You are being so stubborn about that. I don't understand why. The battery has lasted me whole day, so why would I need it?

Agreed.

In the end you will still need a new battery.

A new battery isn't the answer to something. It seems the iPhone forum has become filled with people just screaming "Get a new battery" for any and everything.

iPhone seeing shut downs? Must be battery. No... not necesarily.

There is always a degree of troubleshooting you have to do before advising a new battery.
 
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We are talking about a 4 year old phone, with random shut downs, battery charge percentage jumping all over, charge seeming to respond wildly to temperature swings, etc. Pretty much all of those point toward a bad battery.

The big one for me is the phone shutting off while plugged in. That to me says not just a battery losing it's capacity, but a possible fault in the battery that is causing the phone to shut down immediately. To me this is a safety issue, as that battery could be shorting out or something like that and the phone is shutting off to protect itself. This phone could be a fire hazard.
 
We are talking about a 4 year old phone, with random shut downs, battery charge percentage jumping all over, charge seeming to respond wildly to temperature swings, etc. Pretty much all of those point toward a bad battery.

The big one for me is the phone shutting off while plugged in. That to me says not just a battery losing it's capacity, but a possible fault in the battery that is causing the phone to shut down immediately. To me this is a safety issue, as that battery could be shorting out or something like that and the phone is shutting off to protect itself. This phone could be a fire hazard.
The phone isn't 4 years old. I bought it pretty recently and how come my Sony Xperia L (which was bought in 2013) still lasts very well without any new battery? Are you saying that Apple products are bad?

I said it stopped after resetting the phone to it's factory settings and now it holds up great. I haven't even charged it today and I've been using mobile hotspot, surfed the web, GPS navigation (Google Maps) and WhatsApp.

It's now at 19% and I started using it at 5:00 am when I woke up. It has been okay the other days as well after resetting the phone to it's factory setting and once again THE PHONE ISN'T 4 YEARS OLD! It was manufactured in 11.16.
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Agreed.



A new battery isn't the answer to something. It seems the iPhone forum has become filled with people just screaming "Get a new battery" for any and everything.

iPhone seeing shut downs? Must be battery. No... not necesarily.

There is always a degree of troubleshooting you have to do before advising a new battery.
Thank you.
And what if I would've gotten the new battery and it would've still shut off out of blue? One of my friends had the same problems, but with iPhone SE and she told me that resetting to the factory settings helped her. (She had to reset it to the factory settings, because the iPhone didn't connect to the Wifi anymore).

I used to love MacRumors, but not anymore. It's like Apple support forum: "Nope, your Early MacBook 2008 can't run Mountain Lion etc…"
I'm really glad that there are such open minded and intelligent people left as jav6454.

Anyways, the issue is solved now and I'm not getting a new battery. If anything I'd rather get a new phone, but not an iPhone anymore.
Apple isn't what it was during it's golden era.
 
As far as I know Apple stopped manufacturing the 5S in March of 16, so I'm wondering how you get a 11/16 manufacture date?

Even if the phone isn't 4 years old, but only 1.5-2, it sounds like a damaged battery to me. That can happen to a brand new phone. It can also be intermittent, so maybe it isn't the battery and it was fixed by the reset, or maybe not. I guess you can wait and see if you want, but personally I would be taking it to have the battery checked out by a professional. Damaged lithium batteries are no joke.

You want a new phone, and would rather not get an iPhone that is fine by me. I'm just trying to make sure you understand you could be taking a chance of having a fire start in your home/car/jacket/pants.
 
If it’s connected, it’s not the battery. Think of it as a Mac being connected to AC power. If you remove the battery it’ll work. Something here.
Just FYI, iPhone and iPads don’t pass power through directly to the device. It all goes through the battery. Meaning, if you are connected to power, it’s charging the battery, then your phone is pulling said power from the battery. If you remove the battery, there is no way for power to get from the wall to your device, and it will shutdown. Therefore, battery issues can still manifest when the device is plugged into power. This is completely different from laptops. Laptops can bypass the battery when on AC. Anyway, glad the OP got it figured out with a restore.
 
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Nope, it has worked fine for days now after restoring the system and I'm not going to give any of my money to Apple anymore anyways :)
You are being so stubborn about that. I don't understand why. The battery has lasted me whole day, so why would I need it?


Insane. You should look at getting a battery replacement - you're not gonna get away with blaming Apple for what's essentially a scientific limitation. Batteries don't last forever despite whatever your friend's random experience with their device may be, and you're certainly beyond the 500-cycle expected (and clearly published) lifespan on a device that's more than four generations old.


Batteries are dirt cheap. iFixit sells the battery and all the tools needed to do it yourself for 25 bucks USD:
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/iPhone/iPhone-5s-Replacement-Battery/IF124-002-4

You'll be able to find a cheapo replacement in your country, too. And if you're so ridiculously hellbent on shaming Apple for an issue outside of the possibilities of science, plenty of companies sell generic batteries not made by Apple, including that iFixit one.


Otherwise, enjoy Android. If you favor an effortless mobile device, it's a pretty pitiful experience long term. You're just going to hamstring yourself out of a platform you seem to prefer because of a lifetime issue that affects all lithium batteries in all devices. All batteries wear differently, you might get lucky with a much more robust and larger one in your MacBook as it can handle load spikes better than Apple's second-smallest mobile device. Someone who uses their phone more casually, plays less games, keeps their device on a car mount in the sun on their daily drive, etc are all going to have differing lifespans. Such is life, and it's crazy to think that because you haven't personally come across the issue that it doesn't exist on android.



Your issue is exactly like buying a new car and expecting the brakes to just work forever, and then shaming the company and going on the attack as soon as people are like "hey, you might need brakes soon if you've got 50k on your stock ones". Sure, people have had their brakes last longer, and people have had their brakes go in half the mileage - it's all about driving style, environment, weight, and other factors. You are the guy who storms out of the dealership refusing to replace your bare brakes because it's some sort of conspiracy to give them more money. And here you are, back on the road with something that will imminently give you problems.
 
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Just FYI, iPhone and iPads don’t pass power through directly to the device. It all goes through the battery. Meaning, if you are connected to power, it’s charging the battery, then your phone is pulling said power from the battery. If you remove the battery, there is no way for power to get from the wall to your device, and it will shutdown. Therefore, battery issues can still manifest when the device is plugged into power. This is completely different from laptops. Laptops can bypass the battery when on AC. Anyway, glad the OP got it figured out with a restore.

I'll look into this. Last time I did a small experiment on a 4S. It ran without battery via the AC adapter. Apple might have changed it, or I made a jumper somewhere.
 
As far as I know Apple stopped manufacturing the 5S in March of 16, so I'm wondering how you get a 11/16 manufacture date?

Even if the phone isn't 4 years old, but only 1.5-2, it sounds like a damaged battery to me. That can happen to a brand new phone. It can also be intermittent, so maybe it isn't the battery and it was fixed by the reset, or maybe not. I guess you can wait and see if you want, but personally I would be taking it to have the battery checked out by a professional. Damaged lithium batteries are no joke.

You want a new phone, and would rather not get an iPhone that is fine by me. I'm just trying to make sure you understand you could be taking a chance of having a fire start in your home/car/jacket/pants.
Look at the picture I posted. It says when it was manufactured :)
It is fine now. I even watched YouTube 1% for like 5-10 minutes in the morning. When I went to sleep the battery was 10% (low power mode, mobile data enabled) as for now I see nothing wrong with my battery after I restored the system.

The issue is solved now. I'm not going to buy a new battery for now, because I haven't had any issues for days now. Once again, I have Sony Xperia L from 2013 and this battery is also lithium. I have Nokia music Xpress 5320, which is ten years old and the batteries last fine.
I've never replaced the batteries on those phones. So if anything happens I blame Apple. :) Lets not forget that Apple products are more expensive than other (better products). I saw a PC with 40GB of Ram and Xeon processor and it was cheaper than the current Mac Pro.:)I'm not buying Apple products anymore nor giving money to Apple. I've looked around and there are so many better phones, computers for cheaper price and Windows can use all the programs I need (Photoshop, Unity, which I use for my work)
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Insane. You should look at getting a battery replacement - you're not gonna get away with blaming Apple for what's essentially a scientific limitation. Batteries don't last forever despite whatever your friend's random experience with their device may be, and you're certainly beyond the 500-cycle expected (and clearly published) lifespan on a device that's more than four generations old.


Batteries are dirt cheap. iFixit sells the battery and all the tools needed to do it yourself for 25 bucks USD:
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/iPhone/iPhone-5s-Replacement-Battery/IF124-002-4

You'll be able to find a cheapo replacement in your country, too. And if you're so ridiculously hellbent on shaming Apple for an issue outside of the possibilities of science, plenty of companies sell generic batteries not made by Apple, including that iFixit one.


Otherwise, enjoy Android. If you favor an effortless mobile device, it's a pretty pitiful experience long term. You're just going to hamstring yourself out of a platform you seem to prefer because of a lifetime issue that affects all lithium batteries in all devices. All batteries wear differently, you might get lucky with a much more robust and larger one in your MacBook as it can handle load spikes better than Apple's second-smallest mobile device. Someone who uses their phone more casually, plays less games, keeps their device on a car mount in the sun on their daily drive, etc are all going to have differing lifespans. Such is life, and it's crazy to think that because you haven't personally come across the issue that it doesn't exist on android.



Your issue is exactly like buying a new car and expecting the brakes to just work forever, and then shaming the company and going on the attack as soon as people are like "hey, you might need brakes soon if you've got 50k on your stock ones". Sure, people have had their brakes last longer, and people have had their brakes go in half the mileage - it's all about driving style, environment, weight, and other factors. You are the guy who storms out of the dealership refusing to replace your bare brakes because it's some sort of conspiracy to give them more money. And here you are, back on the road with something that will imminently give you problems.

For your information I gave up on materialistic life awhile ago. Why? Because I have to move a lot and it's stressful to move when you have lots of stuff.
I also gave up on having a car and haven't had it for 5 years now. Why? Because of the car tax.

Of course Android has bad phones. Of course Android has many flaws, but so does Apple. I am talking that there are many better products at Apple's price range and I'm not talking about Samsung.

The main point is: The issue has resolved itself for now and my battery lasts just fine. Thank you for your help. The only device I've had problems with the battery was my MacBook (early 2008) and it seemed like it'll blow up and. I didn't blame Apple. For sure the battery is old.

If the problem occurs again I might thinking of changing the battery. We'll see. And by the way about the batteries: Even brand new batteries can explode. It's the game of luck, really. There just was a video how iPhone X battery exploded at the store, of course the man bit into the phone, but yeah…

How come everyone trusts Battery Coconut on cycles and not my battery health, manufactural date etc…? You are as stubborn as me and see what you want to see. Yes, I am stubborn. I've generally had good experiences with all the batteries in my devices.
My iPod was manufactured in 2007 and the battery still lasts. Of course, I went to the Apple Store asking if they could replace the battery and they told me "no", but still, my iPod nano lasts full day, but I remember the times when it lasted a lot more.

Anything that has a battery in it might blow up.
 
Look at the picture I posted. It says when it was manufactured :)
It is fine now. I even watched YouTube 1% for like 5-10 minutes in the morning. When I went to sleep the battery was 10% (low power mode, mobile data enabled) as for now I see nothing wrong with my battery after I restored the system.

The issue is solved now. I'm not going to buy a new battery for now, because I haven't had any issues for days now. Once again, I have Sony Xperia L from 2013 and this battery is also lithium. I have Nokia music Xpress 5320, which is ten years old and the batteries last fine.
I've never replaced the batteries on those phones. So if anything happens I blame Apple. :) Lets not forget that Apple products are more expensive than other (better products). I saw a PC with 40GB of Ram and Xeon processor and it was cheaper than the current Mac Pro.:)I'm not buying Apple products anymore nor giving money to Apple. I've looked around and there are so many better phones, computers for cheaper price and Windows can use all the programs I need (Photoshop, Unity, which I use for my work)
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For your information I gave up on materialistic life awhile ago. Why? Because I have to move a lot and it's stressful to move when you have lots of stuff.
I also gave up on having a car and haven't had it for 5 years now. Why? Because of the car tax.

Of course Android has bad phones. Of course Android has many flaws, but so does Apple. I am talking that there are many better products at Apple's price range and I'm not talking about Samsung.

The main point is: The issue has resolved itself for now and my battery lasts just fine. Thank you for your help. The only device I've had problems with the battery was my MacBook (early 2008) and it seemed like it'll blow up and. I didn't blame Apple. For sure the battery is old.

If the problem occurs again I might thinking of changing the battery. We'll see. And by the way about the batteries: Even brand new batteries can explode. It's the game of luck, really. There just was a video how iPhone X battery exploded at the store, of course the man bit into the phone, but yeah…

How come everyone trusts Battery Coconut on cycles and not my battery health, manufactural date etc…? You are as stubborn as me and see what you want to see. Yes, I am stubborn. I've generally had good experiences with all the batteries in my devices.
My iPod was manufactured in 2007 and the battery still lasts. Of course, I went to the Apple Store asking if they could replace the battery and they told me "no", but still, my iPod nano lasts full day, but I remember the times when it lasted a lot more.

Anything that has a battery in it might blow up.


Excuse me, I am stubborn and see what I want to see in ****ing data? Last I checked it was you who looked at the data and seem to be going "nope, it's infinite". You act as if I have a stake in wanting your battery to fail. What even is this topic?


We know that batteries can explode. They're a controlled chemical reaction.


Looks like you don't need the forum's help - go buy an android phone. I'm sure they'll love you over on those forums.
 
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