iPhone 5s vs my nexus 5

[Vegastouch]

Those photos clearly aren't horrible. From what I've been reading though (not a personal owner of the N5 myself), the biggest issue is with autofocus lag, and thus affecting photos with motion more significantly--something you obviously wouldn't have had a problem with considering these are static shots (or nearly so, save for a kitty's tongue ).

Again, don't have any personal experience so I'll defer to Nexus 5 owners who can provide first-hand experience and will surely correct me if I wrong.

BTW, that Kimchi pot has my mouth watering--looks tasty.

The 4.4.2 update fixed a lot of that. It snaps the pictures faster and it focuses faster and i hear they are still working on an update to improve it even more. The camera on this Nexus is the first one that has a good one.

 

[bkends35]

These are photos I've taken with the Nexus 5.

Horrific? Really?

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Bowl of Fruit with Nexus 5

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Kimchi Hot Pot at Boiling Point

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Lily Drinking from the Sink

Nice pictures, horrific isn't necessarily the correct term, I was slightly exaggerating. I would say underwhelming. I've read a lot of reviews on the nexus 5 and the camera can perform very well in good lighting as most cameras can but the low light isn't great compared to a lumia or iPhone. As somebody mentioned, he thought the 4s was even better than the GS4, coming from a GS3 the low light capabilities of the iPhone camera are very impressive. Without adequate lighting, the GS3 (and GS4 from what I've read) really struggle if the lighting isn't good. This is a big drawback since using the flash is never as good as a good low light camera.

 

[Lloydbm41]

The iPhone is much more fluid and it pleases the eye much better IMO. As for the keyboard, I think androids auto correct is really good. It'll. prefect the past 2 words of it thinks they need to be whereas androids keyboard will only focus on the word that you are currently typing. As for your issue on the #, yes you do have to hit 2 buttons to get to it but only one to get back to the keyboard. Also, I'm. It sure where you're using hashtags but I only use them in twitter and Instagram and in both of those apps the # is on the main part of the keyboard and I know androids keyboard does not do that.

Well, the keyboard on my iPad Mini is the one huge annoyance I have, but luckily I the jailbreak just came out, so as soon as one of the tweaks to the keyboard comes out, I can change it up.
I actually use the hashtag (pound sign), along with the @, [, ( and / quite a bit, so you can see how much of a PIA it has been for me.

By the way, in Android you can adjust the long press times, so for me it is just a fraction of a second longer than a normal press. Not to mention, I can just swype to get to any number of keys and caps. I really hope I can get something like Swiftkey on Cydia.

 

[mKTank]

so you pretty much rented a phone just to justify the purchase of another....MMMKKKK.

Well the alternative is making armchair assumptions about a device you've never held. I quite like his approach myself.

 

[jamezr]

These are photos I've taken with the Nexus 5.

Horrific? Really?

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Bowl of Fruit with Nexus 5

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Kimchi Hot Pot at Boiling Point

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Lily Drinking from the Sink

Those pictures look great! Did you edit them at all? Oh and BTW…I'll be right over for some of that Kimchi….looks awesome!

 

[soulreaver99]

Nice pictures, horrific isn't necessarily the correct term, I was slightly exaggerating. I would say underwhelming. I've read a lot of reviews on the nexus 5 and the camera can perform very well in good lighting as most cameras can but the low light isn't great compared to a lumia or iPhone. As somebody mentioned, he thought the 4s was even better than the GS4, coming from a GS3 the low light capabilities of the iPhone camera are very impressive. Without adequate lighting, the GS3 (and GS4 from what I've read) really struggle if the lighting isn't good. This is a big drawback since using the flash is never as good as a good low light camera.

Those photos are far from underwhelming.

Those pictures look great! Did you edit them at all? Oh and BTW…I'll be right over for some of that Kimchi….looks awesome!

No these are straight from the camera. All I did was slap on the watermark. Kimchi hotpot is a fine meal for a cold winter night

 

[rillrill]

so you pretty much rented a phone just to justify the purchase of another....MMMKKKK.

Nope. I thought I was pretty much getting a better camera on the iPhone. I didn't. It goes back.

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I find it extremely hard to believe the nexus 5 camera beats the iPhone's. The nexus cameras have always been horrific and the nexus 5 is no exception. The iPhone 5s camera is the best on the market aside from the limia 1020. Also, the keyboard on the iPhone is far superior than stock androids. The autocorrect is impeccable. It took me about 2 days getting used to the smaller size of the iPhone keyboard coming from my galaxy s3 and I can tell you the keyboard is FAR superior, I was even running the stock android 4.4 kitkat keyboard.

I'll post some low light shots. The HDR in the nexus is sharper. Both phones have a grainy look, but the nexus bests the iPhone. Although, I concede that the iPhone isn't bad by any means. Its just all the reports say how the iPhone has "the best camera" and I was willing to switch back if it did, but it doesn't. Without HDR though, my nexus camera is blurrier.

 

[bkends35]

Nope. I thought I was pretty much getting a better camera on the iPhone. I didn't. It goes back.

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I'll post some low light shots. The HDR in the nexus is sharper. Both phones have a grainy look, but the nexus bests the iPhone. Although, I concede that the iPhone isn't bad by any means. Its just all the reports say how the iPhone has "the best camera" and I was willing to switch back if it did, but it doesn't. Without HDR though, my nexus camera is blurrier.

Wow, I'm really surprised that people are saying it's better than the 5s. Every review I've read on the nexus 5 has stayed that the camera was just a mid-teir camera and about what you'd we expect from a $350 phone. If possible could you post some side by side pictures if you have a 5s too?

 

[rillrill]

Wow, I'm really surprised that people are saying it's better than the 5s. Every review I've read on the nexus 5 has stayed that the camera was just a mid-teir camera and about what you'd we expect from a $350 phone. If possible could you post some side by side pictures if you have a 5s too?

I meant the reviews say the iPhone has the best camera. When I get back I'll post the side by side comparison.

 

[spinedoc77]

So I picked up an iPhone 5s to see.whether it'd be better than my nexus 5, and its going back. I tested the camera in low light. I thought based on all the reviews that the iPhone would kill the nexus. The nexus was sharper in every shot. The iPhone is quicker at taking pictures, but it wasn't any better than my nexus. For me a picture that comes out blurry is useless and a tiny bit of difference in quality wouldn't sway me either way.

Next is the touch Id. I thought it'd be convenient, but I end up having to redo it lot more than I expected. Though I don't even lock my nexus so some security is better than none I suppose.

Lastly, the size. I cannot type for **** on the iPhone. And the speech to text, sweet Jesus ... Googles got em beat with swipe and their voice recognition. Siri is a joke.

The build quality is nicer of course. I really like the aluminum and the white is so clean looking. The iPhone is consistent in the camera section. But the photos are not better.

Yeah the camera isn't much better, if at all. But the autofocus is a HUGE deal for me and that's one reason I went back to my 5S over the N5, although I have not seen the improved auto focus with the latest update on the N5.

Touch ID, I hated initially but after you get it working it is pretty awesome. I don't think I could go back to a regular passcode ever again.

Size is annoying for viewing webpages and typing for sure. But it's a plus just using it as a pure phone IMO, easy to hold and handle in a car at 80mph hehe.

I definitely can't blame anyone for choosing the N5 over the 5S though, it's a great phone.

 

[blackhand1001]

Theres an entire new camera application being built by google right now. It wasn't finished at the release of 4.4 but it will probably be added either during the next 4.4x release or during 4.5.

 

[OhHaiThere]

http://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/features/

Auto Image Stabilization is there under camera features. Actually stitches together multiple shots to remove any blurring effects.....if anything, should be slower to do it that way.

I've gotten mixed results from my Nexus 5 camera. Sometimes it is definitely on par with my 5S, other times its horrific. My 5S on the other hand, is extremely consistent and MUCH better in low-light.

My biggest gripe with the Nexus 5 is awfully inconsistent battery life. Sometimes its fine, other times its terrible. I'd rather know I'm getting poor battery life than this inconsistent stuff....

All-in-all, both devices are nice. Though if Apple gives me a larger iPhone next year, I'll likely just go with that and do away with Android - at least as a daily driver.

Auto image stabilization isn't the same as optical. I don't know if you're into photography, but it's easier to understand with real lenses.

I agree about the Nexus 5 camera giving mixed results though. There are times the auto focus is off, other than that it's fine. It's good in low-light mode too.

I'm actually the opposite of you... was updating my sons iPad this morning and man am I happy that I don't have to use that piece of crap. iOS7 is slow as hell, iTunes store makes no sense... the entire software package doesn't make sense to me. I wanted to do a backup to iTunes (which we don't use) and it said my iTunes isn't authorized for the purchases. I could authorize it, but it doesn't tell me if I could ever undo it (or even what that means). Will I need iTunes in the future for these apps? I don't know, a standalone device shouldn't need iTunes.

The apps suck, crap is just hidden inside with in-app purchases and nag screens and ads and all that other crap. It just doesn't make sense.

Who wants an iPad Mini + $50 worth of iTunes cards?

Google better come out with a Nexus 8 soon... I'm ready for an upgrade!

 

[Frankied22]

Auto image stabilization isn't the same as optical. I don't know if you're into photography, but it's easier to understand with real lenses.



I agree about the Nexus 5 camera giving mixed results though. There are times the auto focus is off, other than that it's fine. It's good in low-light mode too.



I'm actually the opposite of you... was updating my sons iPad this morning and man am I happy that I don't have to use that piece of crap. iOS7 is slow as hell, iTunes store makes no sense... the entire software package doesn't make sense to me. I wanted to do a backup to iTunes (which we don't use) and it said my iTunes isn't authorized for the purchases. I could authorize it, but it doesn't tell me if I could ever undo it (or even what that means). Will I need iTunes in the future for these apps? I don't know, a standalone device shouldn't need iTunes.



The apps suck, crap is just hidden inside with in-app purchases and nag screens and ads and all that other crap. It just doesn't make sense.



Who wants an iPad Mini + $50 worth of iTunes cards?



Google better come out with a Nexus 8 soon... I'm ready for an upgrade!

I'll take an iPad mini lol

 

[jrswizzle]

Auto image stabilization isn't the same as optical. I don't know if you're into photography, but it's easier to understand with real lenses.

I agree about the Nexus 5 camera giving mixed results though. There are times the auto focus is off, other than that it's fine. It's good in low-light mode too.

I'm actually the opposite of you... was updating my sons iPad this morning and man am I happy that I don't have to use that piece of crap. iOS7 is slow as hell, iTunes store makes no sense... the entire software package doesn't make sense to me. I wanted to do a backup to iTunes (which we don't use) and it said my iTunes isn't authorized for the purchases. I could authorize it, but it doesn't tell me if I could ever undo it (or even what that means). Will I need iTunes in the future for these apps? I don't know, a standalone device shouldn't need iTunes.

The apps suck, crap is just hidden inside with in-app purchases and nag screens and ads and all that other crap. It just doesn't make sense.

Who wants an iPad Mini + $50 worth of iTunes cards?

Google better come out with a Nexus 8 soon... I'm ready for an upgrade!

iOS 7 has its bugs....but slow? I've used it on multiple devices and none were slow.

Also, I wouldn't know about iTunes issues....haven't used it to sync or backup to in ages. My stuff is all very organized and I'm the sole user. Kinda anal like that.

 

[walie]

iOS 7 has its bugs....but slow? I've used it on multiple devices and none were slow.

Also, I wouldn't know about iTunes issues....haven't used it to sync or backup to in ages. My stuff is all very organized and I'm the sole user. Kinda anal like that.

I have a friend who basically stopped using his iPad because upgrading it to ios7 pretty much ruined it.

 

[jrswizzle]

I have a friend who basically stopped using his iPad because upgrading it to ios7 pretty much ruined it.

Which iPad? I've used it on an iPad 2, 3, mini, Air and retina mini - no trouble on any.....at least as far as speed goes. Bugs are there but that's to be expected of such a major overhaul.

 

[mattopotamus]

I have a friend who basically stopped using his iPad because upgrading it to ios7 pretty much ruined it.

Which iPad? I've used it on an iPad 2, 3, mini, Air and retina mini - no trouble on any.....at least as far as speed goes. Bugs are there but that's to be expected of such a major overhaul.

I agree with jrswizzle. I have an iPad 2 and ios7 has not made it any worse. Sure...I prefer the looks of ios6, but it is still totally functional.

 

[Nikhil72]

I agree with jrswizzle. I have an iPad 2 and ios7 has not made it any worse. Sure...I prefer the looks of ios6, but it is still totally functional.

I do like the looks of iOS 7 and agree that it's quite functional, but just wanted to say wait until iOS 7.1 is released; it flies on the iPhone and iPad and solves quite a number of the bugs and issues users were experiencing earlier. The animations are now no slower than iOS 6. Visually, of course, it's the same iOS 7, which will continue to be polarizing, but I think the performance complaints will cease with 7.1

 

[Vegastouch]

Which iPad? I've used it on an iPad 2, 3, mini, Air and retina mini - no trouble on any.....at least as far as speed goes. Bugs are there but that's to be expected of such a major overhaul.

Kinda funny coming from the guy who asked why Google would release the Kitkat OS when they knew it had bugs and complained a lot about not getting a fix right away while they were working on a fix for the first fix after realizing tha wasnt good enough, and still got it out pretty quick.

So Apple is on what? iOS 7.0.4? How dare they release 3 buggy versions and many still think the 4th one stinks

 

[jrswizzle]

I do like the looks of iOS 7 and agree that it's quite functional, but just wanted to say wait until iOS 7.1 is released; it flies on the iPhone and iPad and solves quite a number of the bugs and issues users were experiencing earlier. The animations are now no slower than iOS 6. Visually, of course, it's the same iOS 7, which will continue to be polarizing, but I think the performance complaints will cease with 7.1

This.

I'm very much looking to 7.1 as I think it is what Apple meant to released as iOS 7. They simply ran out of time given the magnitude of the changes they were making. I think we can a little complacent and expect more and more to be done within the same time frame each year.....there's only so much that can be done. And of course, if Apple hadn't release new software people would be up in arms crucifying them.

Anyhow - here's some pics for side-by-side comparison of the N5 and 5S taken in less than ideal conditions (aka at night during an ice storm):

First two are iPhone 5S, second two are Nexus 5. In this case, the N5 did pretty well IMO.

 

[jrswizzle]

Kinda funny coming from the guy who asked why Google would release the Kitkat OS when they knew it had bugs and complained a lot about not getting a fix right away while they were working on a fix for the first fix after realizing tha wasnt good enough, and still got it out pretty quick.

So Apple is on what? iOS 7.0.4? How dare they release 3 buggy versions and many still think the 4th one stinks

No - had nothing to do with the bugs in KitKat.....

My complaints had to do with actually getting the updates. I've received every one of the Apple updates within 10 minutes of its release and each has addressed issues.

Whereas my Nexus 5 was left out of receiving any updates, even days after they had supposedly been released - including 4.4.2 - until I flashed it myself.

Nothing to do with the bugs. Those happen. Everything to do with timeliness and availability of updates. Also there's a difference between fixing a useless camera app and fixing an every-now-and-again app crash. One kills a major feature of a smartphone. The other is a nuisance. There's also a difference between a major update (6 -> 7) and a point update (4.3 -> 4.4).

I'm not going into this again. I flashed it myself, after setting it all up, and now have gone through the most time consuming part. No harm done. You've blown my comments out of proportion from the beginning. I simply mused why Google couldn't just push out updates quickly like Apple. I was met with "that's just the way they do it and here's why". I understand those reasons, and though I don't think that's the way I'd do it, that's the way its done. That's fine.

End of story.

 

[Vegastouch]

No - had nothing to do with the bugs in KitKat.....

My complaints had to do with actually getting the updates. I've received every one of the Apple updates within 10 minutes of its release and each has addressed issues.

Whereas my Nexus 5 was left out of receiving any updates, even days after they had supposedly been released - including 4.4.2 - until I flashed it myself.

Nothing to do with the bugs. Those happen. Everything to do with timeliness and availability of updates. Also there's a difference between fixing a useless camera app and fixing an every-now-and-again app crash. One kills a major feature of a smartphone. The other is a nuisance. There's also a difference between a major update (6 -> 7) and a point update (4.3 -> 4.4).

I'm not going into this again. I flashed it myself, after setting it all up, and now have gone through the most time consuming part. No harm done. You've blown my comments out of proportion from the beginning. I simply mused why Google couldn't just push out updates quickly like Apple. I was met with "that's just the way they do it and here's why". I understand those reasons, and though I don't think that's the way I'd do it, that's the way its done. That's fine.

End of story.

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18482254/

Originally Posted by jrswizzle View Post
So those of us who didn't get 4.4.1 will go straight to 4.4.2?

Why release a bug fix point release if its got bugs you have to fix 4 days later?

Im not trying to blow anything out of proportion. Its what you said and then someone showed you how Apple did the same thing within days of their buggy releases. Its just hypocritical is all and Apple is no different while working on their 5th release of iOS7 in 3 months.

 

[jrswizzle]

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18482254/


Im not trying to blow anything out of proportion. Its what you said and then someone showed you how Apple did the same thing within days of their buggy releases. Its just hypocritical is all and Apple is no different while working on their 5th release of iOS7 some 3-4 months later.

My point in that linked post was, why release it only to pull it back and release another one that soon after.....essentially releasing public betas of each within the span of a week.

Apple releases targeted fixes. No, each release doesn't solve EVERY issue, but they do solve the ones they are meant to. I'd rather have 4 updates which I can get within 10 minutes of their release that fix 4 bugs, than 2 updates, one of which was out for 4 days, but then pulled because it didn't solve the problem or created more issues and the second which also was out for more than a few days before I simply decided to flash it myself.

It too doesn't address every problem.

Different methods. Again, I understand why Google does it that way. I simply prefer Apple's method. Is that such a problem? Are you trying to tell me they do things the same way? Because its pretty obvious they have different strategies when it comes to releasing software updates.

Also - yet again.....iOS 6 -> iOS 7 = MUCH bigger change than 4.3 -> 4.4......its not an apples to apples comparison from the get go. Stop acting like it is to make me look like some irrational Google hater. I'm not. Otherwise I wouldn't have been using their devices for the last year.

 

[walie]

Kinda funny coming from the guy who asked why Google would release the Kitkat OS when they knew it had bugs and complained a lot about not getting a fix right away while they were working on a fix for the first fix after realizing tha wasnt good enough, and still got it out pretty quick.

So Apple is on what? iOS 7.0.4? How dare they release 3 buggy versions and many still think the 4th one stinks

And this is on top of all those developer betas. The fact that iOS 7 was released in the shape it was is a huge pie in the face for apple, and they didn't learn a single thing from the (ongoing) apple maps fiasco.

 

[soulreaver99]

You girls are so cute

Let's not have another flame war.