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I7guy

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Nice, balanced overview!

Google intentionally crippled its Maps app on iOS by removing Street View... The thing is though on iOS you can still get Street View, etc. via 3rd party apps & despite not having Street View, Apple Maps works well, so I just stopped using Google Maps altogether on iOS.

I would miss the tight integration/Hand off features by switching to Android as my daily driver.

As I have not been using Android as my daily driver I have not been using Contacts, etc. and will check them out. Often when I want to use my Nexus 7 to compare features, it's lifeless as the battery went from almost fully charged to dead within in a few days of disuse... Keep seemed to me like a Jack of all trades, master of none app. For instance, why put reminders in this app? I'd rather use a separate reminders app that integrates very well with all my devices. For email on Android I never found one app that handles all my mail accounts equally and allows me to search across all of them as if they were one account, etc. The Mail app and also I would really miss features of Safari by switching the daily driver...

About OPs snowboarder comments, I am a snowboarder too. On a normal day i typically use 30-40% of my battery (iPhone 6) but on a snowboarding day I hardly use any and have not noticed any variations due to humidity. Unless you go so far back country that you could get lost several days, but then there should be a better rescue backup plan anyway. There are also cheap battery packs to recharge the internal battery. If you can afford this hobby, I doubt $175 makes or breaks the piggy bank on a device you will likely use for several years. I'd maybe start with a cheap non contract Android device alongside your iPhone so you can compare the differences over longer periods before investing in a new flagship device.
Also @Starfire mentioned updates. My iPad 2 is still getting update after 4 years and will run iOS 9. So basically the life of the updates are about 5 to 6 years for that device.
 

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Also @Starfire mentioned updates. My iPad 2 is still getting update after 4 years and will run iOS 9. So basically the life of the updates are about 5 to 6 years for that device.
good point, shame it will no doubt cripple the device, all but forcing you to upgrade.. but hey ho..
 

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I don't buy into the whole 'Apple supporting devices' thing. They slow your device down and the new iOS features are nothing special.
Apps are usually supported for a number of years and Android Apps are designed to run on older versions of the o/s due to the fragmentation which exists. I'd sooner have an older version of Android and a phone performing like it did the day I bought it, than an older iPhone running the latest version of iOS which slows it to a crawl.
None of the photo synching or iMessage stuff bothers me. I can happily live without it but I do understand that some can't.
Google plus photos app is now the killer photo syncing app. instantly see full res pics on all your devices, but the story feature where it auto makes a montage story of a day out is brilliant..
 

jamezr

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Also @Starfire mentioned updates. My iPad 2 is still getting update after 4 years and will run iOS 9. So basically the life of the updates are about 5 to 6 years for that device.
It will run IOS 9? Can it do Multi Window feature of IOS 9? Or will it have a crippled down version?
 

The-Real-Deal82

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good point, shame it will no doubt cripple the device, all but forcing you to upgrade.. but hey ho..
Not necessarily. I don't personally keep devices longer than 2 years so it's irrelevant to me, but it's rare an iOS device is crippled beyond use from an update. A lot was made of iOS 7 crippling iPhone 4's and 4S's but it was solved pretty quickly thanks to a manufacturer that releases updates to all devices rather than filtering them out to carriers. My mother in laws iPhone 4 became slow after the first update but a few days later the issue was solved.

I got fed up with waiting for Samsung to solve the glitches on my S3 back in 2012 and got rid of it after 6 months. My HTC phones prior to that we're all great but stopped receiving updates after 18 months. I think I was lucky to get three in that time anyway. One thing Apple can't be criticised for and that is product support. The ipad 2 and iPhone 4S are prime examples.
 

jamezr

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can your 2011 android devices get 4 years of updates and do multi windows? Or have software updates for the o/s stopped a long time ago?
Read your own post! You said IOS 9 would run on your second gen iPad. I haven't made any claims about Android except to tell you IOS 9 will run on your iPad 2....yes but the best features will not be available because it doesn't have 2GB of ram. Multi window will not run on your iPad 2. Look it up. So it might get IOS 9 but the best features will not run on it.

I7guy said
Also @Starfire mentioned updates. My iPad 2 is still getting update after 4 years and will run iOS 9. So basically the life of the updates are about 5 to 6 years for that device.


Here are people on MR running the beta versions of IOS 9 on their iPad 2 and it cripples the iPad. So at least get your facts straight

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-well-does-ios-9-run-on-the-ipad-2.1898773/

I just updated to ios9 pb, I did clean install 8.4 and this point I think that my ipad was faster or as fast as on ios7, but after updating to ios9 it's definitely slower, so I don't recommend updating now
 
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I7guy

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Read your own post! You said IOS 9 would run on your second gen iPad. I haven't made any claims about Android except to tell you IOS 9 will run on your iPad 2....yes but the best features will not be available because it doesn't have 2GB of ram. Multi window will not run on your iPad 2. Look it up. So it might get IOS 9 but the best features will not run on it.




Here are people on MR running the beta versions of IOS 9 on their iPad 2 and it cripples the iPad. So at least get your facts straight

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/how-well-does-ios-9-run-on-the-ipad-2.1898773/
I said it would run. I never claimed 100% of the features would be enabled, and based on past release history anybody who spent more than 2 seconds with apple and iOS knows that different devices have different features enabled based on hardware.

What I do know though is my iPad 2 will be getting updated until sept 2016, even if high end features the hardware can't handle, are missing. Android circa 2011 not so much.

Interesting flat out incorrect projection of a post.
 

jamezr

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Do all android phones have multi window?
I am not sure....but I never made claims that they do. I never made claims about Android at all here. The poster I was replying insinuated his ipad 2 will run IOS 9....it will but it will be a stripped down IOS 9 with many of the reasons to upgrade not available. He was misleading people.
 

I7guy

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I am not sure....but I never made claims that they do. I never made claims about Android at all here. The poster I was replying insinuated his ipad 2 will run IOS 9....it will but it will be a stripped down IOS 9 with many of the reasons to upgrade not available. He was misleading people.
You are misleading people. As an apple dev I know for a fact my iPad 2 will run iOS 9. that's the only claim, not confusing to most. I'm wondering if the next claim is iOS 9 will be able to use Apple pay on a 5s. Sheesh.

Edit: in case you don't follow Apple you should know that iOS 9 is beta and beta software has unintended side effects. Beta by definition is not production quality and there may be bugs. However it does run in my iPad 2. /end
 
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nickchallis92

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Who cares. At the end of the day the top samsung handsets are the best phones. Nobody buys a phone to use for 6 years.

Same story with the "oh Samsung have copied again". At the end of the day, who cares? If the phone is better for it, power to me.
 

zone23

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I am not sure....but I never made claims that they do. I never made claims about Android at all here. The poster I was replying insinuated his ipad 2 will run IOS 9....it will but it will be a stripped down IOS 9 with many of the reasons to upgrade not available. He was misleading people.

Oh well I thought iOS 9 was going to be optimized to run better on older hardware? That would seem like a pretty good reason to update, not to over look any security patches.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Oh well I thought iOS 9 was going to be optimized to run better on older hardware? That would seem like a pretty good reason to update, not to over look any security patches.
I think it will be optimised for older hardware especially the ipad 2. It's in the list of devices supported and it's now 4 years old so I think that is good value. Of course it won't have all the features the iPad Air 3 will have, but nobody expects it to considering its limited by its older hardware. It'll still have iOS 9 and I expect it to run well within its limitations.
 
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